Boat VS Rocks

[TiltonBB]

35 Chris Craft, recently totally refurbished, hit rocks and took on water south of Governor's Island. Air bags going on now and towing it to Mountain View to be taken out of the water.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

35 Chris Craft, recently totally refurbished, hit rocks and took on water south of Governor's Island. Air bags going on now and towing it to Mountain View to be taken out of the water.

Is that the Chris Craft Nick Wilmerding was working on for a long time??

Edited to add: sure looks like it!.... https://nwmarineindustries.com/large-refit-project

Dan

[Phantom]

10 were aboard at the time - all safe ! And I understand it- they hit in the Witches. It was towed over and is presently sitting on the bottom on a beachfront of Gov island until they airbag it and float it to MVYC

Sad way to end the season.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Phantom

10 were aboard at the time - all safe ! And I understand it- they hit in the Witches. It was towed over and is presently sitting on the bottom on a beachfront of Gov island until they airbag it and float it to MVYC

Sad way to end the season.

Is this the refurbished Chris Craft that was docked at Akwa Vista


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[TiltonBB]

Yes, and it is the one that Nick Wilmerding did all the wiring on. It was a beautiful boat. Completely redone interior, cabinets,wiring Etc.

[persistence]

Ugh. What happened? I know the lake is very low.


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[TiltonBB]

Towing it in.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Yes, and it is the one that Nick Wilmerding did all the wiring on. It was a beautiful boat. Completely redone interior, cabinets,wiring Etc.

Yes it’s a few slips over from mine. I admired it every time I passed it or in and out of the marina. What a shame a beautiful boat


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[Phantom]

As I said before --- feel for the owner -- NOT a good way to end the season, but thankfully everyone aboard was okay .

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Phantom

As I said before --- feel for the owner -- NOT a good way to end the season, but thankfully everyone aboard was okay .

Thanks for posting the pics!

Not good from what I can see!! Glad everyone Onboard was OK.

Dan

[persistence]

Ouch


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by persistence

Ugh. What happened? I know the lake is very low.

This was a slim year for cormorants...

[thinkxingu]

Was it the Witches? I gotta think with a vessel like that they'd have GPS and one of those dotted line things to show safe passage.

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[persistence]

Man that shaft isn’t pretty. That must have really made big clunk. That’s too bad


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[Dave R]

Looks like the entire keel was torn off.

[TiltonBB]

He was doing about 14 knots and thought he was outside of the markers. Sad story, nice guy, nice boat. He is the second owner who had the boat totally rebuilt by Miles Marine. The first owner of the boat was Gerry Angiulo. Great history!

[ursa minor]

That’s brutal, it’s surprising they were able to tow it to MVYC even with the floatation bags. That’s going to be difficult if not impossible to repair, so sorry to see this happen to anyone but even worse when they’ve put so much into restoring it.

[Hillcountry]

Holy mackerel! All I can think of is what the owner felt when he heard the first CRUNCH! Talk about having that ”sinking feeling”

[MAXUM]

That'll buff right out

[Puck]

If only there had been a lighthouse...

[Patofnaud]

Originally Posted by Puck

If only there had been a lighthouse...

Ok, you sir owe me a coffee and a keyboard. I just spit mine out over my laptop.

[radioman]

My heart goes out to the owner. Winni is a very unforgiving lake, The captain needs to be so very much aware of nav markers each and every minute.

[Dave R]

This is what it should look like. Might not be as tough to fix the keel as I thought.

[Phantom]

FOR THE RECORD -

I have seen a "dust up" over another post in Social Media (iBoat) over pictures & statements posted.

First & foremost, I am NOT that poster.

Second, should any of my pic's in this thread wind up in the media (newspapers, etc.) it is WITHOUT my authorization!!

I posted these as the event was "public" knowledge and I feel it serves as a good warning to all us boaters of what can happen...……….

Again, with 10 aboard, this could have had a VERY different ending …….. thankfully - it did not!


As stated above, the owner recently spent a tremendous amount restoring this craft & I feel for him.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Dave R

This is what it should look like. Might not be as tough to fix the keel as I thought.

I think after the repairs are made to the hull, shafts, struts, and props the larger issue may be the interior. The water in the boat rose above the engines and actually floated the cabin floorboards. It may take a while to figure out everything that the water damaged and come up with a repair plan.

At least it wasn't in June or July and he got the season to use the boat. At this point they will have all winter to make the repairs. As Phantom said, it is nice that no one was hurt.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I think after the repairs are made to the hull, shafts, struts, and props the larger issue may be the interior. The water in the boat rose above the engines and actually floated the cabin floorboards. It may take a while to figure out everything that the water damaged and come up with a repair plan.

At least it wasn't in June or July and he got the season to use the boat. At this point they will have all winter to make the repairs. As Phantom said, it is nice that no one was hurt.

That’s a shame....I saw the transformation of that boat from the time the restoration started at Miles facility. It took forever and a tremendous amount of time and money was spent. I would be sick if that was my boat... glad everyone is OK but still a heartbreaking shame for the owner...

Dan

[Rich]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

He was doing about 14 knots and thought he was outside of the markers. Sad story, nice guy, nice boat. He is the second owner who had the boat totally rebuilt by Miles Marine. The first owner of the boat was Gerry Angiulo. Great history!

I'm so sorry to learn about this. I had this beautiful boat parked next to me for a while across the channel from me.

Can anyone show on a chart or Google maps where this grounding happened at the witches?

[ishoot308]

Does anyone know exactly where this guy hit rocks?...I'm hearing conflicting info. Now hearing he hit rocks by Eagle Island and floated into the witches. If true, that's a long way to float especially with the damage seen in the pics.

I do see a lot of boaters try to cut between Eagle and the black markers just to the North. While it can be done in a smaller boat during full lake, certainly no one in their right mind would attempt in a boat that size at 19" below full lake. Not saying this is what happened whatsoever just the curiosity of where he exactly hit interests me...

Dan

[watrskir]

Originally Posted by Phantom

FOR THE RECORD -

I have seen a "dust up" over another post in Social Media (iBoat) over pictures & statements posted.

First & foremost, I am NOT that poster.

Second, should any of my pic's in this thread wind up in the media (newspapers, etc.) it is WITHOUT my authorization!!

I posted these as the event was "public" knowledge and I feel it serves as a good warning to all us boaters of what can happen...……….

Again, with 10 aboard, this could have had a VERY different ending …….. thankfully - it did not!


As stated above, the owner recently spent a tremendous amount restoring this craft & I feel for him.

Maybe people should just mind their own business. If the owner of the boat wants to post pictures of his boat, then why don't you let him!! How would you like it if you had an ACCIDENT and people posted you all over social media?? Mind your own business!! And for the record... I do not know this guy!

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by watrskir

Maybe people should just mind their own business. If the owner of the boat wants to post pictures of his boat, then why don't you let him!! How would you like it if you had an ACCIDENT and people posted you all over social media?? Mind your own business!! And for the record... I do not know this guy!

We regularly, and respectfully, dissect lake mishaps, errors, tragedies. It's important for community learning. If the owner has been mistreated elsewhere, that's not on us

[watrskir]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

We regularly, and respectfully, dissect lake mishaps, errors, tragedies. It's important for community learning. If the owner has been mistreated elsewhere, that's not on us

Well thank god you are there to educate everyone that the lake is low.... pictures of a damaged boat wasn't really needed for that was it now.

[Winilyme]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

We regularly, and respectfully, dissect lake mishaps, errors, tragedies. It's important for community learning. If the owner has been mistreated elsewhere, that's not on us

Benefit of the doubt. Watrskir is just having a bad day and it’s making him grumpy.

[Descant]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

We regularly, and respectfully, dissect lake mishaps, errors, tragedies. It's important for community learning. If the owner has been mistreated elsewhere, that's not on us

Adding to embarrassment with unfounded speculation adds nothing. Silence is golden.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Originally Posted by Winilyme

Benefit of the doubt. Watrskir is just having a bad day and it’s making him grumpy.

You are being most charitable toward waterskir. The reason I object to his curmudgeonly remarks toward some forum members is that most of them care deeply what happens to others, and I have personally had the benefit of their suggestions on many occasions. Their comments are mot meant to embarrass anyone....they truly feel sorry that the accident happened. So...
please be more kind, waterskir.....it might make you feel better.
There.....I’ve had my say....that’s it! 😇

[TiltonBB]

To Watrskir: Your posts are off the mark! Everyone that posted was respectful and sympathetic towards the owner. There is nothing here to be concerned about.

We have all learned a lot from this website including the lessons learned from the accidents of others. I think the information posted on this site has made many of us better boaters and helped to further a sense of community on the lake. It's all good!

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by watrskir

Well thank god you are there to educate everyone that the lake is low.... pictures of a damaged boat wasn't really needed for that was it now.

The lake is only 4” lower than normal for this time of year. Based on the pics, I really don’t think an extra 4” would have helped much...

Dan

[8gv]

"Let ye who has never hit a rock cast the first stone!"

Wait, what?

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by watrskir

How would you like it if you had an ACCIDENT and people posted you all over social media?? Mind your own business!!

Waterskir - the answer to your question is an easy one for me - "If there was something to be learned and gained from it - by all means".

The point of my last post was to make clear that this Forum was the ONLY place where I have posted as I have since seen it pop up elsewhere.

I notice that you are (like me) a long time Forum member, albeit an infrequent poster, so clearly this thread (not started by me, btw) "hit a button" with you .........… I will let my record of posts & comments on this Forum stand their own !

[MotorHead]

Garmin CV63

I LOVE IT.

[Formula260SS]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

To Watrskir: Your posts are off the mark! Everyone that posted was respectful and sympathetic towards the owner. There is nothing here to be concerned about.

We have all learned a lot from this website including the lessons learned from the accidents of others. I think the information posted on this site has made many of us better boaters and helped to further a sense of community on the lake. It's all good!

I agree that we all learn a lot from the Forum however, I personally would not want pictures of any mishap that happened to me posted on here regardless of what it "teaches" anyone. I think it puts the involved parties in an awkward position, they have enough to deal with the incident itself.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

I agree that we all learn a lot from the Forum however, I personally would not want pictures of any mishap that happened to me posted on here regardless of what it "teaches" anyone. I think it puts the involved parties in an awkward position, they have enough to deal with the incident itself.

I agree, even understanding best intentions and sympathies from all, it would only make the matter that much worse for me knowing everyone else sees the details in such vivid and up close pictures.

Not condemning anyone here, just saying if this were me, I would prefer the intimate details of damage done to the boat not be broadcast to the world.

I think its enough for any of us who love our boats (and all boats) to say this is a heartbreaking event for the owner.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

That’s a shame....I saw the transformation of that boat from the time the restoration started at Miles facility. It took forever and a tremendous amount of time and money was spent. I would be sick if that was my boat... glad everyone is OK but still a heartbreaking shame for the owner...

Dan

Stated perfectly;

"I would be sick if that was my boat... glad everyone is OK but still a heartbreaking shame for the owner..."

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by Dave R

This is what it should look like. Might not be as tough to fix the keel as I thought.

Yes I don't believe getting the boat back sea worthy is going to be an issue. However time and money are another subject all together. Its not like there are many shops that boat will slip into, to be working on it through the winter. And then of course if insurance is involved that can get problematic too....

All in All I am glad that everyone is reported as OK that was on the boat. And that they got the boat back to shore and out of the water without to much trouble.

[Barney Bear]

Boat was bewitched.