Transport question on steep lot

2Blackdogs · 05-27-2008, 07:50 AM

My new steep lot has me looking for some way to carry household goods, boating supplies, firewood, and yard trimmings up and down it. It's less than a 200' trip up. I'm wondering if a tippy ATV is the answer or would a golf cart would do it? There's some soil to cross, so I might have to nix the idea of a $1200 2006 snomobile at a local car dealership, for my brief excursions.

Onshore · 05-27-2008, 07:59 AM

There are several examples of creative solutions to this problem on the Broads side of Rattlesnake Island.

eyenotall777 · 05-28-2008, 03:53 PM

Can anyone give examples as I will not be able to get out that way for a few weeks to take a look. I'd be interested in their solutions as we are dealing w/ the same issue.

Thanks

Rattlesnake Guy · 05-28-2008, 10:51 PM

The typical rattlesnake transport solution involves a wooden structure not unlike the cog railway. About 3 feet wide and wooden rails of various styles. A wheeled cart rides up the wooden structure and is pulled by a winch scheme from the top. Ideally the drop off might be right at your deck for easy unloading.

Will take a few pics this weekend if that helps.

Chris Craft · 05-30-2008, 08:50 AM

Find some one selling a Toro Twister. They are amazing at what they can haul and what grades they can run. Not the cheapest thing in the world but man can they work!!

Rose · 05-30-2008, 10:17 AM

How about a homemade yarder?

I think I've watched too much "Ax Men"

GoSnow · 05-30-2008, 02:40 PM

I am on the Broads side of Rattlesnake & I have a winch system that was designed by my neighbor. There's a cart on a track that goes up & down the hill being pulled by a winch. The winch has a low speed for heavy loads as well as a high speed. It works awesome!!!

Rattlesnake Gal · 06-02-2008, 07:06 PM

Some Rattlesnake Islanders instituted a little Yankee ingenuity to transport items up to their cottages.

Click here for supersized photo
(I tried very hard to not draw any attention to the cottages themselves, only the slide. Hopefully no one will have issue with me!)

Lakegeezer · 06-02-2008, 07:36 PM

Great shot RG. There is sure a lot of steep going up the island!

steadyon · 06-04-2008, 07:32 AM

are those considered impervious surface?

wow that is steep!

luckypete · 06-04-2008, 01:21 PM

Does anyone know of a contractor who has constructed these sort of lifts? I may need one in the future.

Rattlesnake Guy · 06-04-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by steadyon

are those considered impervious surface?

wow that is steep!

The island is the remnants of a huge volcano that was ground off by the glaciers that formed the lake. I swear our lot is nearly as tall as it is deep. Needless to say, high lake levels are only a problem for the dock.

HUH · 06-05-2008, 08:34 AM

http://www.lakeshoretram.com/

Webbsatwinni · 06-05-2008, 01:54 PM

HUH, I got excited that I may not have to build this myself after you posted that link. I just called lake shore trams to get an estimate and they quoted me $45k for an installed tram, I guess I will start hauling wood to the island and building one myself.

HUH · 06-05-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Webbsatwinni

HUH, I got excited that I may not have to build this myself after you posted that link. I just called lake shore trams to get an estimate and they quoted me $45k for an installed tram, I guess I will start hauling wood to the island and building one myself.

Had no idea they cost that much, just saved the link as we were looking at some property with a 100 foot drop to the lake.
They could be pricey due to the liability any manufacturer has to have to sell people moving equipment. I saw one with a canvas top on the tram as well, im sure it would be a huge labor saver over the years though

Formula260SS · 06-07-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HUH

Had no idea they cost that much, just saved the link as we were looking at some property with a 100 foot drop to the lake.
They could be pricey due to the liability any manufacturer has to have to sell people moving equipment. I saw one with a canvas top on the tram as well, im sure it would be a huge labor saver over the years though

You can get a winch for between $1,200.00 to $1,600.00 then the cost of the wood to build the track and any associated labor costs.

If you look close at the pictures the track is easy to build, the biggest concerns are finding the proper winch and having a solid anchor point for it

HUH · 06-07-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Formula260SS

You can get a winch for between $1,200.00 to $1,600.00 then the cost of the wood to build the track and any associated labor costs.

If you look close at the pictures the track is easy to build, the biggest concerns are finding the proper winch and having a solid anchor point for it

All the parts are readily available. However as an osha crane inspector I can assure you the insurance companies and osha highly regulate any device used for the moving or lifting of humans. Some sort of bake or ratchet and pall system should be used. Can you imagine if the cable or hoist were to fail...wheeeeee

Formula260SS · 06-08-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HUH

All the parts are readily available. However as an osha crane inspector I can assure you the insurance companies and osha highly regulate any device used for the moving or lifting of humans. Some sort of bake or ratchet and pall system should be used. Can you imagine if the cable or hoist were to fail...wheeeeee

The lifts shown in RG's posts are NOT used for human transportation. And yes we have imagined the ride........weeeeeeeee.........call 911

SAMIAM · 06-08-2008, 08:16 AM

Why not harness up a couple of goats ?

Formula260SS · 06-08-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Why not harness up a couple of goats ?

No livestock in the deed on Rattlesnake......I think thats good

SteveA · 06-09-2008, 05:48 AM

Maybe this would work..

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NH Native · 06-27-2008, 12:28 PM

I ran across this local source (Franklin, NH) for flanged wheels which look like they'd be perfect for this kind of project. They are $195 each. Here's the web site: http://www.railriders.net/index1.html

Good luck with your railroad!

05-27-2008, 07:50 AM	#1
2Blackdogs Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Transport question on steep lot My new steep lot has me looking for some way to carry household goods, boating supplies, firewood, and yard trimmings up and down it. It's less than a 200' trip up. I'm wondering if a tippy ATV is the answer or would a golf cart would do it? There's some soil to cross, so I might have to nix the idea of a $1200 2006 snomobile at a local car dealership, for my brief excursions.

05-28-2008, 03:53 PM	#3
eyenotall777 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 154 Thanks: 39 Thanked 28 Times in 19 Posts	Examples? Can anyone give examples as I will not be able to get out that way for a few weeks to take a look. I'd be interested in their solutions as we are dealing w/ the same issue. Thanks

05-30-2008, 10:17 AM	#6
Rose Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 498 Thanks: 62 Thanked 71 Times in 32 Posts	Yarder How about a homemade yarder? I think I've watched too much "Ax Men"

06-02-2008, 07:06 PM	#8
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Rattlesnake Island Winch Slide Systems Some Rattlesnake Islanders instituted a little Yankee ingenuity to transport items up to their cottages. Click here for supersized photo (I tried very hard to not draw any attention to the cottages themselves, only the slide. Hopefully no one will have issue with me!)

06-02-2008, 07:36 PM	#9
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,677 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 354 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	Great shot RG. There is sure a lot of steep going up the island! __________________ -lg

05-27-2008, 07:59 AM	#2
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 502 Thanks: 12 Thanked 423 Times in 145 Posts	There are several examples of creative solutions to this problem on the Broads side of Rattlesnake Island.

05-28-2008, 10:51 PM	#4
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	The typical rattlesnake transport solution involves a wooden structure not unlike the cog railway. About 3 feet wide and wooden rails of various styles. A wheeled cart rides up the wooden structure and is pulled by a winch scheme from the top. Ideally the drop off might be right at your deck for easy unloading. Will take a few pics this weekend if that helps.

05-30-2008, 08:50 AM	#5
Chris Craft Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 120 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Find some one selling a Toro Twister. They are amazing at what they can haul and what grades they can run. Not the cheapest thing in the world but man can they work!!

05-30-2008, 02:40 PM	#7
GoSnow Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rattlesnake Island & Windham, NH Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I am on the Broads side of Rattlesnake & I have a winch system that was designed by my neighbor. There's a cart on a track that goes up & down the hill being pulled by a winch. The winch has a low speed for heavy loads as well as a high speed. It works awesome!!!

06-04-2008, 07:32 AM	#10
steadyon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	are those considered impervious surface? wow that is steep!

06-04-2008, 01:21 PM	#11
luckypete Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cow island Posts: 27 Thanks: 33 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Contractors Does anyone know of a contractor who has constructed these sort of lifts? I may need one in the future.

06-05-2008, 08:34 AM	#13
HUH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 21 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	A tram http://www.lakeshoretram.com/

06-05-2008, 01:54 PM	#14
Webbsatwinni Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lebanon Ct and Rattlesnake Island Since 2007 Posts: 610 Thanks: 180 Thanked 137 Times in 72 Posts	HUH, I got excited that I may not have to build this myself after you posted that link. I just called lake shore trams to get an estimate and they quoted me $45k for an installed tram, I guess I will start hauling wood to the island and building one myself.

06-08-2008, 08:16 AM	#19
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,891 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,673 Times in 584 Posts	Why not harness up a couple of goats ?

06-09-2008, 05:48 AM	#21
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Another solution Maybe this would work.. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

06-27-2008, 12:28 PM	#22
NH Native Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Torrington, CT / Laconia NH Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rail Wheels I ran across this local source (Franklin, NH) for flanged wheels which look like they'd be perfect for this kind of project. They are $195 each. Here's the web site: http://www.railriders.net/index1.html Good luck with your railroad! Attached Images