Question for other Condo Associations??

Rockdaddy · 06-19-2006, 09:08 AM

I have a question of other Condo association members on the lake.
For the first time my condo association will allow PWC docking at our docks.
We are required to have them on free standing Jet Ski stands that will be placed in an out of the way area, (too shallow for boats & away from beach)
The association will be charging $350.00 for each PWC space.
What do other associations change for this type of docking? I feel that $350.00 is too high.

Onshore · 06-19-2006, 11:59 AM

price may not be your only problem... You are required to get a permit from the NH DES Wetlands Bureau to install a pwc lift and one of the permitting requirements is that they must be placed immediatley adjacent to the existing docking facility. It sounds like what the association wants you to do is illegal.

Island Girl · 06-19-2006, 12:04 PM

PWC lifts do not have to be next to a dock. There is a limitation to the number of lifts per shoreline length. I do not know how it works with associations vs. private lots.

jrc · 06-19-2006, 12:47 PM

Is a lift and a stand the same thing. I thought if the the PWC was on a stand and rolled out of the water. It did not need a permit. Esssentially it is a mini human powered trailer and trailers don't need DES permits.

jetskier · 06-19-2006, 01:16 PM

Hi all,

We went through all this at Southdown Shores over the past couple of years. We currently have mooring positions for PWC that are approved by the state. The moorings had to be free standing...attachment to a dock was a slip and that was a completely different approval process. Both the slips or the moorings will have to be approved and that process is lengthy. If you do not have approvals for this, you are illegal. I would ask about this prior to putting a PWC in the water. For us to get approval it took the following:

1. Approval of the city/town
2. Approval of safety and conservation
3. Approval of the governor's council

This required engineering drawings, proposals, applications and presentations. It took on the order of 2 years to complete the process.

Jetskier

Aquadeziac · 06-19-2006, 07:23 PM

If it is one of those wheeled things that drags the PWC completely out of the water there are no permits needed. I was told by MP when I stay at a friends cottage on the lake that if I drag my ski up onto land so that no part of it touches the water it is safe and not under MP jurisdiction.

06-19-2006, 09:08 AM	#1
Rockdaddy Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Question for other Condo Associations?? I have a question of other Condo association members on the lake. For the first time my condo association will allow PWC docking at our docks. We are required to have them on free standing Jet Ski stands that will be placed in an out of the way area, (too shallow for boats & away from beach) The association will be charging $350.00 for each PWC space. What do other associations change for this type of docking? I feel that $350.00 is too high.

06-19-2006, 12:04 PM	#3
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	Do not have to be ajacent to dock PWC lifts do not have to be next to a dock. There is a limitation to the number of lifts per shoreline length. I do not know how it works with associations vs. private lots. __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade

06-19-2006, 01:16 PM	#5
jetskier Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Reading, MA and South Down Shores Posts: 850 Thanks: 57 Thanked 183 Times in 114 Posts	Our Experience Hi all, We went through all this at Southdown Shores over the past couple of years. We currently have mooring positions for PWC that are approved by the state. The moorings had to be free standing...attachment to a dock was a slip and that was a completely different approval process. Both the slips or the moorings will have to be approved and that process is lengthy. If you do not have approvals for this, you are illegal. I would ask about this prior to putting a PWC in the water. For us to get approval it took the following: 1. Approval of the city/town 2. Approval of safety and conservation 3. Approval of the governor's council This required engineering drawings, proposals, applications and presentations. It took on the order of 2 years to complete the process. Jetskier

06-19-2006, 07:23 PM	#6
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	If it is one of those wheeled things that drags the PWC completely out of the water there are no permits needed. I was told by MP when I stay at a friends cottage on the lake that if I drag my ski up onto land so that no part of it touches the water it is safe and not under MP jurisdiction. __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

06-19-2006, 11:59 AM	#2
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 500 Thanks: 12 Thanked 400 Times in 143 Posts	price may not be your only problem... You are required to get a permit from the NH DES Wetlands Bureau to install a pwc lift and one of the permitting requirements is that they must be placed immediatley adjacent to the existing docking facility. It sounds like what the association wants you to do is illegal.

06-19-2006, 12:47 PM	#4
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Is a lift and a stand the same thing. I thought if the the PWC was on a stand and rolled out of the water. It did not need a permit. Esssentially it is a mini human powered trailer and trailers don't need DES permits.