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Five states have banned recreational power boating on all drinking water sources. Many more have horsepower limits on their drinking water sources. Mass has a 10 hp limit on reservoirs. Even with MTBE free gas being sold on the lake it can be introduced by trailer boaters. MBTE attacks the central nervous system. And there are other pollutants in gas besides MTBE. NH is one of the few states that allow unrestricted power boating on drinking water sources. |
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So now you want ALL powerboats of winni?
"NH is one of the few states that allow unrestricted power boating on drinking water sources."
So now you are going to push to restrict all powerboats from the lake? Is that what you are saying? I think I will become a birch bark canoe dealer, That way I can corner the market before your proposed restrictions take place! |
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Please stop deliberately misunderstanding what I post. It's not fair and not funny.
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Hows that saying go? Something about glass houses.....
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Why, that is what you do on here daily. Also I am not changing your words, I was kind enought to quote you directly. I would dare say most others would read your words to mean the same I did, so therefore no "deliberate misunderstanding". |
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and to think, we have the environmentalists to thank for its usage. Thanks... and its replacement, ethanol, is increasing the food prices and raising havoc with combustion engine fuel systems. Thanks, again...
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I see exactly what you mean with the MTBE. May I suggest changing to bottled water for drinking. You know what fish do in the water |
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The captain of the boat had no control of his boat whatsoever while he was "getting air." His passengers and crew no longer had a voice in the driver's capabilities and skills. They were now at the mercy of brutal physics. These "performance boats" have heavily bolstered interiors and seats to protect the passengers against injury. But operating at high speed, zero control in the air, and uncertain waters below wrote the ending even before the helicoper started to record it. Winnipesaukee saw at least three similar high speed crashes in three successive summer seasons. None on Winnipesaukee were videotaped. Would the other site admit to seeing an injured passenger, not just with a triple fracture of her pelvis, but being naked too? Look again at the video, especially at 1:03 and 1:18. The video ends at 1:23. Use the "pause" feature and don't make the common mistake of enlarging the screen for clarity, please. There's no denying the windshield gets ripped away by the impacting force of the water. It's tinted, and was launched to fly very high above the boat. The same sudden thrust of water that tore off the windshield ripped the bikini top upwards close to the glass fragment in the air. Or what her friends call a towel. If it's a towel, it's a towel that stays in the shape of a bikini top. http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=1155180898 |
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The lake is too good a tourist-draw to have remained uncrowded: it's future likely to have been in State or Federal control. The state would have put up lodges and provided buses for tours. All the surrounding towns would profit via their restaurants, touristy cabin-motels, video rentals, RV campsites and small-boat rentals. Summer camps for kids would be given special exemptions for zoning and taxes. Existing lakeside and hillside residences from the time the park was established would be allowed to remain throughout the lives of the original owners, then bulldozed after a eminent domain purchase. (As is done now in many locales). Mt. Washington boat tours would be booked for months in advance and private tourist boats—operated by retirees—would take those turned away. The entire Lake Winnipesaukee Basin would have become a State or National Park. Forests would go to "Old Growth" and the surrounding hillsides restricted to woods with only selective cutting. There would have been official and private camping sites scattered about—with clearings for nature trails, overlooks, and educational exhibits. Even snowmobile access could have been limited—as in Yellowstone Park National Park recently. To retain the quietude of Thoreau's time, to protect the shorelines, to keep the air pristine, to ensure tourists' safety, to protect loons, to continuously-project its alpine and native-American ambiance, "On Golden Pond National Park" would prohibit the launching of "extreme boats" onto its waters.
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The only difference between Quabbin and Winni is the degree of protection they receive. Quabbin is well protect against the pollution of boats. Winni is poorly protected against boat pollution. That does not mean they are inherently different, it means Winni needs more protection from out of control boating, and she is going to get it.
The number of people served by the water supply doesn't make any difference. Is it OK to pollute the water because the number of people that drink it is relatively small. Obviously not! I can still get to the island with a 10 hp. For a few islanders that is the only boat they have. Hopefully swimming etc will never have to be banned on Winni. But tighter regulations on lake use are happening all the time. Check out the new shore land protection act. Get used to it! However I don't understand your argument. Are you saying that because making Winni exactly like Quabbin would be odious, then we can't make Winni even a little like Quabbin? That argument does not follow. Your argument was that boating did nothing to pollute drinking water. That turned out to be false. Your argument had been that only tiny reservoirs had speed limits. That turned out to be false. You argument is boating need not be regulated on Winni. That is also false. |
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First off Winnis 72 square miles the last time I checked , not 69 sq. mi. as you posted. Given your other half truths I would doubt the 39 sq mi is correct too. Probably more like 36 which is half the size. Now excuse me for a couple of hours while I go stir up some water and make some noise. Last edited by Cal; 09-03-2007 at 10:59 AM. |
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Winni is 69 square miles, if you want to include Paugus it is 71, at least that is what Wikipedia says. |
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BTW , check the Winnipesaukee.com home page. 72 square miles |
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By the way, you are wrong about the windsheld as well. Sunsation has two windshield options on that boat, a solid painted fairing which is a molded part of the top deck and will not come off, or a completely clear windhshield that screws down like on any other boat. The boat had a clear windshield. Your monitor must be tinted... |
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I was referring to someone else in the original post.
"The new Senator for this area lives on Bear Island" I guess I could have said "The new Senator for this area stays on Bear Island" I doesn't make any difference to me, It shouldn't make any difference to anyone else. You people only care because you think it is an error I have made that you can exploit. The reality is you are pissed! You are on the losing side of an argument you hate to lose. Your arguments do not stand up again real data, real deaths, political reality and public opinion. In your hearts you know the speed limit will pass this time and nothing you can do will stop it. And this has you really pissed. I can't do this anymore, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. And I am starting to feel sorry for the fish. I hope you all still find this beautiful lake a wonderful place to come to even with a speed limit. That long beautiful pirate boat went by a while ago, you know the one, it has a skull and cross bones on the side. The people inside were waving and having a great time. I hope things like that never leave this lake. |
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A speed limit zone around the Weirs? Again, I think you might be confusing the need for a speed limit with enforcement of the 150' rule. To tell you the truth I've never seen anyone going 45 or above at the Weirs. Island/Relaxin wrote: Quote:
As I have said many times, enforcement of existing laws will solve the problems the speed limit crowd has without additional laws or spending the limited funds the Marine Patrol has on a law that it appears data collected and anecdotal evidence shows isn't needed. So enforce the laws we have and get those few operators that you cite into compliance and everyone is happy. I was going to respond to a number of Islanders comments about limiting power on a "drinking water supply" but they have become just too ridiculous! I now believe she is writing these posts to be intentionally outrageous to push buttons! Good one! |
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Check out the following link, the accident victims were actually the ones that released the video to promote safety/ No cover up there... http://destinsharks.com/photo-and-video/196#more-196 A quote from the link: "As the video shows, the boat was driving mostly south at high speed into the mouth of Destin Pass were it ‘hooked’ after landing from a big wave jump. Destin Pass, like most passes, is subject to unpredictable wave patterns due to tide/wind conflicts, shallowing water, and busy boating traffic by vessels of all sizes." If you would like to contact ACTUAL people at the poker run that can attest to weather/water conditions and the proximity of other boats in the area I am sure I can point you in the right direction. Lets agree to disagree and move on. Isn't this thread supposed to be about Winnipesaukee anyway? |
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Here's a little bit of news for you, it's a big lake, you're going to have to keep sharing it with many people. Most of them are good people, a few are inconsiderate jerks. You want more laws because in the past a few jerks have not obeyed the laws already in place. The speed limit won't work. My opinion (see, that's what you say when your trying to be honest, you should give it a try sometime) is that a speed limit will make the lake more dangerous. We're not going to get more MP to set up speed traps, so the ones that patrol now will be assigned to sitting in a hiding spot, trying to catch someone going over 45mph. Problem is that their are few, if any going that fast so stops will be few and far between. So you or someone like you, insistent that you can't be wrong, will start demanding more MP resources be committed to speed traps. Anyway, please do stop posting, I need a break from pointing out your incorrect assumptions and conclusions. BTW, "The new Senator for this area stays on Bear Island" is the truth, your other statement just like most of your "facts" just doesn't cut it. Finally, that long pirate boat you're talking about, is a very fast GFBL boat, I find it funny that you "hope things like that never leave this lake", it is exactly what you are trying to run out. |
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That said, that Londonderry Nor-Tech wasn't loud (so GFBQ??) and sure throws a tiny wake for a 50+ foot boat. I was shocked when I crossed it's wake a couple of weeks ago while it was cruising at an estimated 50 MPH and I could not really hear it nor did the wake affect me any more than typical chop. I hope boats like THAT never leave the lake. It's dripping with sophistication and class. |
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We also see boats with what seems like barley more than the prop in the water quite routinely. Looks like fun. Wish my boat could do that. The rougher the water the more likely the boats will ride a bit higher. We have observed that boats don't have to be going especially fast for them to get air. (I know some on the forum would say that above 30 is fast, to them I would say, yes it was above 30) I would also say that the thing that seems to slow a fast boat most is if rough water lifts the prop too high. Most don't seem to want to risk the investment if the boat is not properly engaged with the water. I don't know if it's concern over control or lack of load on the prop but it does seem to be the natural limit the lake puts on everyone. I find the operators of the boats going fast past our place to be paying much better attention to what's going on than the average boater. Out of self preservation they seem to avoid the unpredictable things in front of them. |
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Kewl Pic-- bbarrell
Wish someone could snap one off of our boat like that !! Damn, ours is only a bowrider, probably wouldn't look all that great anyway
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Great picture but what's your point?If the boats were too close that's a violation.You certainly can't tell from the photo that these boats are going more than the proposed speed limit.Why would Dave's boat be "on the edge of control" as you put it because it goes 50 mph.Maybe your sailboat would be on the edge of control at 15 knots and could take out a kayker or someone in a canoe.I believe sailboats have the right of way because they are at the mercy of the wind,have less control than a powerboat,and certainly have a much more obstructed view with all the sails and rigging.
There's plenty of room for every type of pleasure craft on this lake.
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It's irrelevant now though because that boat has been used in IL/MN for the past three seasons by the guy who bought it from me in 2005; and I'm in a different boat now that just breaks 50 MPH on a good day. The new boat feels completely planted at WOT, or any other speed. The old boat was a lot more fun though, I miss it. |
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My boat feels twitchy at 5mph in the Weirs channel, am I on the edge of control? If I slow down it gets worse, but if I speed up it gets better.
Should I fight for increased speeds in the channel? BTW the last sentence is a joke, I really don't mean it, really. Please don't quote me later and say one speed limit opponent advocates speeding in the channel. |
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Assumption, the guy standing on the boat is 6 feet tall. Observation, 1. From the bottom edge of the picture to the first white boat would take 6 guys stacked one on top of the other to fill in the space. 2. Only one guy will fit between the two white boats 3. The boats are pointed directly at each other in this picture. 4. The guy in the picture was fishing for Mahi. Conclusion, 1. Since you stated that their was 500' between markers, that aren't even in the picture and only 6 guys at 6 feet fit in the space from the edge of the picture to the boat you were in, only 36 feet from the other boats in violation of the 150' rule. 2 and 3. Since only one guy fits between the boats (6 feet) and they were pointed at each other there was a collision and ensuing explosion in which no one including yourself survived. 4. The guy was fishing for Mahi because it would be as accurate as all the other assumptions you could draw from a picture like this. Your picture is useless and shows nothing but a couple boats out on the lake. Last edited by ITD; 09-05-2007 at 04:19 PM. |
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From other Internet photoshopping questions, I understand that such changes can be detected by examining the enlarged edges of the suspect object for "blurring". Since I use only film—with no pixilations whatsoever—you're welcome to check for any and all irregularities: prepare for disappointment.
"Lack of depth of field" would indicate one object sharply in focus, with the foreground and/or background being out of focus. This photo has great depth of field: everything is in focus. Quote:
It's also reassuring to know that a pleasureboat can still "showboat" at only 50-MPH. And we all know that "a Poker Run is not a Race". Your boat's photo may have followed the other photo. Boating, even by weekend standards, was especially hectic. However, it was still a signature moment for me, as I was one of the two small stationary boats between the two markers, located in the sudden Poker Run rush. As the fisherman in the photo stated here: Quote:
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Aren't we now considered WAY OFF topic as the thread was "Speed Limit Test Zones now Dead in the Water" -- and finally end this thread till there is more news on the topic.
Another Great boating action shot !!! Perhaps you can start a thread for Action Shot pic's (just an off the wall thought) as I truely like to follow the "News" through this forum yet unfortunately find important topical threads like this get bogged down with "off Topic" material. Great Photo's ----- means nothing with regards to speed, spacing, or more importantly -->> "Speed Limit Test Zones now Dead in the Water"
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And remembering my speed isn't hard because we drive at about the same speed in open water most of the time 45-50 mph....my boat doesn't go much faster than that (contrary to popular belief, it tops out around 65mph and loses maximum speed capacity every year). |
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What does bbarrell really mean when he wrote: "I was 'ON' THE BOAT" "We weren't racing" "I wasn't "participating" in the Poker Run" "...possibly I have a twin who "drives" the same boat". (Makes bbarrell the driver, doesn't it?) We're led to questions like the following: 1) Was he a passenger in a boat whose driver wasn't registered in the Poker Run? 2) Was he the driver in a boat whose driver wasn't registered in the Poker Run? (Or hadn't paid). 3) Was he in a Poker Run in 2005 and mistook it for 2004? (when he remembers not being in one—or at least not being "a participant"). 4) Is bbarrell the "driver", owner, or a passenger? (A passenger may—or may not—be a registered "participant"). 5) How could this boat be identified as the boat he was on (or "driving")? It looks just like many other boats with three aboard. I must ask because both photos are from the middle of an entire roll of film that was gone in about an hour. Perhaps I could e-mail the file to a neutral forum member for corroboration. It is said "there are no coincidences", but there were so many ocean-racers that day operating at similar speeds and traveling on the same pathways. (And no shortage of Jet-Skis trying unsuccessfully to catch them). Quote:
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APS you are proving how much, you don't know
I won't spoil the fun I will let bbarell break the news to you.
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APS you have waaaaaaaaay to much time on your hands..my suggestion is to take up a hobby, preferably NOT photography!
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Do you even know what an Ocean racing boat looks like?
I doubt it!
My family has been on Lake Winnipesaukee for just about a century! Yep, 100 years! With the exception of a sanctioned race a number of years ago that involved the MP and even the Mount Washington, I have never NEVER seen an ocean racer on this lake! A Go Fast boat is not an ocean racer! What is an offshore racer? http://www.amfoffshoreracing.com/ APS wrote: Quote:
It's time to get the facts staight. There are no ocean racers on this lake! This is no speed problem on this lake! There are only folks who want to elimiate an entire class of boaters/people from this lake! I the no speed crowd persists, I would be willing to lead an effort to eliminate kayaks and canoes from Winnipesaukee since they are responsible for the majority of accidents and rescues! Talk among yourselves |
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I was sailing today (although not on Winni, but have had similar experiences on the Big Lake) and thought I'd go back to the dock to grab my camera to shoot something that had happened several times already, but was afraid I'd get it wet from the wake of a boat passing very few feet off my bow. I also felt the need to have my hands free to prevent the boat from capsizing from said wake and dropping the mast on said boat.
In my opinion, I think the problem is a combination of speed and boat wakes. If a boater wants to be able to do 90 in the middle of the Broads on a weekday, that should be allowed to, but one doing 40 in the Weirs area on the 4th of July weekend should not be; therefore, I feel that passing legislature for a blanket 45/25 is not a good idea. Like most issues in our great country, the end legislature usually falls into a "happy medium." Oh, the beauty of checks and balences. Somthing like a law stating that a boater may not operate "recklessly" would work for me. But how can we define "recklessly?" This might be a good point of reference. RSA 636:2. Quote:
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With that amount of boat in the water it could be doing 30 mph and a zoom lens distorts distances and depth so you should put this picture on your dart board and use it for practice because that's all it's worth
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Enough is Enough !!! Give your keyboard a rest for a week or two, take a trip to the mountains, see a movie or two, play with the kids (or grandkids), visit relatives - preferably out of state, or whatever But STOP draggin this Forum down
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Let's see, you use pictures that were taken with a telescopic lens and tell us it shows how dangerous it is out there when in fact it shows nothing because photos like that distort distances. To get those pictures you stop your boat in a "500 foot" channel, with your boat "150 feet from the marker" along with two other boats that are stopped or anchored. Talk about creating a problem to make your point. You do this on a busy day yet pontificate about how other boaters are inconsiderate and dangerous, I think you should look in the mirror, but then again, the end justifies the means with you people. Six sights were tested, only two announced publicly and Dir Barrett tells us that essentially there is no speed problem and that some people sitting on their islands see a boat going by and mistakenly assume it is going fast. You've had your chance to prove your case and you have not. Let's see if the legislature can see through this fear mongering and twisting of the truth. They did once already, we'll see if these newbies have any guts and integrity. |
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So outside of that one sanctioned race that I recall a number of years ago, when did you ever see an ocean racer on Lake Winnipesaukee? BTW, you didn't answer the question, do you know where these MONSTER boats are berthed and have you spoken with the owners/marina operators??? |
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It's not how you feel about your own safety, it's how unsafe everybody else feels while afloat in the path of a 70-MPH boat. Most of "those invisible kayaks" are longer than the boat in this photo, and this boat was right where bbarrell's airborne Baja went by in 2005: we have testimony that a 4-ton boat can become airborne at "only" 50-MPH. Fortunately, this photo was taken two weeks ago. Unfortunately, we weren't in any test zone. And yes, that's a young girl swimming behind them—doing a "long swim". Maybe the 45-MPH daytime limit is set too high for our waters. I have many more photos, but unless there are more questions, I now yield the floor to those WinnFABS supporters who have had a well-deserved rest.
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Also why is it that the Racers only came up here for one year.....where people that upset over the race? I thought it was a great weekend and brought alot of business to the area. I had lunch the friday before the races with some of the participants, they were nice curtious and wanted to make sure everyone was having a great time......
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My point in posting about this is to respond to the APS posts, in which he suddenly changed the terminology of the vessel involved in the debate. APS has shifted the terminology from Go Fast boats, which are recreational in nature, to Ocean Racers, which are not recreational boats and aren't even on Lake Winnipesaukee! Get the sides to start talking Ocean Racers, even though there are no Ocean Racers on Lake Winnipesaukee, and it changes the timber of the debate here and in Concord now doesn't it? Karl Rove would be proud! |
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Of course looking at the photo, and given Islander's concern about the contamination of the drinking water supply as horsepower increases, there appears to be a person in the water! People tend to do things in the water that cause e-coli bacterial contamination of the drinking water supply do they not? That would be why most drinking water supplies ban swimming or any physical contact with the water. Have you heard any of the Speed limit/OMG the drinking water is at risk crowd suggest no swimming on Lake Winnipesaukee? Just curious. |
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I said at the start of this thread that this was not a rational discussion and APS once again proves the point. By this logic everyone should be terrified to walk across a street because over the last 2 years thousands of cars have passed over the exact spot going at speeds of 30 MPH or more. If a boat is doing 70 MPH in the Broads, canoeists in Green's Basin better watch out. Oh my Gosh, I just realized the Mt Washington goes through the Broads several times a day, in the exact spot I passed last weekend. If the rowboat in the picture gets caught in the warp it could run right over the swimmer, maybe not fatal but probably very painful. What's more dangerous, a boat doing 70 MPH that is nowhere near you (perhaps as far as 2 years away ) or 5 boats going 20 MPH 50 feet or less way from you? Since I have rarely seen a boat traveling at 70 MPH on the Lake but run across boats coming too close frequently on the Lake, I have worried more about the people breaking the safe passage/150' rule. But that was before I knew about APS's Space-Time warp. Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
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Angry Mob: BURN HER! BUUUURN HER!! Bedevere: How do you know she is a witch? Peasant #2: She looks like one! [mob roars in agreement] Bedevere: Bring her forward. "Witch": I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch! Bedevere: But you are dressed as one. "Witch": They dressed me up like this. [Witch removes her fake nose and "witch" hat] Peasant #1: Well, we did do the nose. Bedevere: The nose? Peasant #1: And the hat. But she is a witch! [mob roars in agreement] Bedevere: Did you dress her up like this? Angry Mob: NO! NO! Peasant #1: ... Yes... a bit. But she has got a wart! [Peasant #2 points at her cheek] Bedevere: What makes you think that she is a witch? Mr Newt: What, she turned me into a newt! Bedevere: A newt? [pause] Mr Newt: I got better. Peasant 2: BURN HER ANYWAY!!!! [mob roars in agreement] Bedevere: Good! So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood? Peasant #1: Build a bridge out of her! Bedevere: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone? Peasant #1: Oh yeah. Bedevere: Tell me, does wood sink in water? Peasant #2: No, no, it floats. Floats! Peasant #1: Throw her into the pond! [mob roars in agreement] Bedevere: No, no, no. What also floats in water? Peasant #1: Bread. Peasant #2: Apples. Mr Newt: Very small rocks. Peasant #1: Cider. Peasant #2: Gravy. Mr Newt: Cherries. Peasant #1: Mud. Peasant #2: Churches! Churches! Mr Newt: Lead! Lead! Arthur: [has been silent in the background] A duck. [pause] Bedevere: Exactly! So, logically...? Peasant #1: ...If she weighs the same as a duck... then she's made of wood. Bedevere: And therefore...? [pause] Peasant #2: A WITCH! [mob roars in agreement] Peasent #3: Here's a duck. Bedevere: We shall use my largest scales. [Peasents 2&3 Set the duck and witch on the scale and hold up very large mallets] Remove the supports! [Having been revealed to weigh the same as a duck, therefore proving her a witch. The crowd goes berserk.] "Witch": It's a fair cop. Mr. Newt: BURRRRN HER! |
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It certainly has turned into a "Witch hunt" alright and the longer it goes on the more rediculous it's getting. People ignoring facts and figures , posting pictures of almost ANTHING and trying to make something out of them that's not there. The more these people keep this up , the worse it makes them look.
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