Watch the water level...

garysanfran · 03-11-2011, 06:11 PM

It can rise quickly with little warning...

Bear Island South · 03-11-2011, 10:32 PM

We are hoping the water level on the ice isn't bad, planning one last trip to the Island tomorrow.
Winter season is over

...bring on spring and ice-out

Bear247 · 03-12-2011, 09:50 AM

Yes bring on ice out.

garysanfran · 03-12-2011, 08:01 PM

One advantage of living by a lake...No tsunamis.

For the entertainment of fellow forum members, here's the tsunami entering Santa Cruz harbor just south of San Fran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FizI7iv-pg

corollaman · 03-12-2011, 08:22 PM

What's nice about the Lakes Region, the destructive weather isn't the norm here, I'll deal with the cold, snow, and ice for a few months out of the year and still have my house in one piece, instead of having to worry all the time if a tornado is gonna rip my house to smithereens, or if a category 5 hurricane is gonna wreck everything, or if my house is gonna be buried in a mudslide.

pcmc · 03-12-2011, 09:14 PM

Amazing force, although it dosen't appear anyone cared much to prepare with kayaks and what not still in the water of harbor.

One question for, anyone smarter than a fifth grader? Why do the waves appear move so slow, when they are said to be traveling at 500mph across the ocean? I realize in the video, its slightly sheltered inland, but still.

Lakesrider · 03-20-2011, 11:04 AM

Noticed the water is now back at the bottom of my dock bumpers. It has been below those by about 6 inches most of the winter. So it is rising a bit.

6meter · 03-20-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pcmc

Question for, anyone smarter than a fifth grader? Why do the waves appear move so slow, when they are said to be traveling at 500mph across the ocean? I realize in the video, its slightly sheltered inland, but still.

I think it's because when it hits shallow water it slows wayyyy down.

pcmc · 03-21-2011, 04:06 AM

I don't know this for sure, but can only imagine, its more a shock wave, that travels across the open ocean and runs aground as it comes a shore, slowing it down as you mentioned.
(well it sounds good anyway)

This'nThat · 03-21-2011, 05:43 PM

is, well, elevated. The lake level has increased by more than a foot in the past couple weeks. We are well outside the standard deviation for this time of year (standard deviation = means that this happens only once or twice every decade, even though the last time was in 2010). A big rainstorm on top of sudden warm weather will push us well over the top. Although we have a ways to go yet to a full lake (another 1/2 foot to go from today's 503.77' to 504.32'), we need to keep an eye on this.

Bear247 · 03-21-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by This'nThat

is, well, elevated. The lake level has increased by more than a foot in the past couple weeks. We are well outside the standard deviation for this time of year (standard deviation = means that this happens only once or twice every decade, even though the last time was in 2010). A big rainstorm on top of sudden warm weather will push us well over the top. Although we have a ways to go yet to a full lake (another 1/2 foot to go from today's 503.77' to 504.32'), we need to keep an eye on this.

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Lakegeezer · 03-23-2011, 08:55 AM

It would be nice to see some more transparency from the dam operator. What is their strategy? What are the constraints? Why isn't the outflow at emergency levels to strive for average levels?

There were four floods since 2000 (defined as Winnipesaukee level over 505 feet above sea level). This was a big snow year. There is still a lot of water in the watersheds. To have the lake this high, which is the second highest in recent history for this date, is scary. The NH DES snowpack reports seem to be missing from the DES web site, so it is hard to compare against other flood years.

There is a lot of efforts going into improving lake water quality. A flood sets back the efforts by eroding the shoreline, adding sediment and nutriments to the lake. Mother nature is a factor here, but so is the person and policies in control of the dam. There should be some accountability at the state level to prevent the lake from flooding. As of this morning, the lake level was 503.84 (14" below flood stage) and the output was 1494 CFM. We've seen output levels at 2400 CFM, so there is room to act.

chipj29 · 03-24-2011, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

It would be nice to see some more transparency from the dam operator. What is their strategy? What are the constraints? Why isn't the outflow at emergency levels to strive for average levels?

There were four floods since 2000 (defined as Winnipesaukee level over 505 feet above sea level). This was a big snow year. There is still a lot of water in the watersheds. To have the lake this high, which is the second highest in recent history for this date, is scary. The NH DES snowpack reports seem to be missing from the DES web site, so it is hard to compare against other flood years.

There is a lot of efforts going into improving lake water quality. A flood sets back the efforts by eroding the shoreline, adding sediment and nutriments to the lake. Mother nature is a factor here, but so is the person and policies in control of the dam. There should be some accountability at the state level to prevent the lake from flooding. As of this morning, the lake level was 503.84 (14" below flood stage) and the output was 1494 CFM. We've seen output levels at 2400 CFM, so there is room to act.

Keep in mind that there may be downstream considerations at play here. For example, I know that the Merrimack has been a bit high. Not crazy-flood high, but is flowing pretty good right now. What is happening down river might impact how they control the dam.

03-11-2011, 06:11 PM	#1
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,491 Thanks: 604 Thanked 631 Times in 321 Posts	Watch the water level... It can rise quickly with little warning... Attached Images __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

03-12-2011, 08:01 PM	#4
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,491 Thanks: 604 Thanked 631 Times in 321 Posts	Tsunami One advantage of living by a lake...No tsunamis. For the entertainment of fellow forum members, here's the tsunami entering Santa Cruz harbor just south of San Fran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FizI7iv-pg __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

03-12-2011, 09:14 PM	#6
pcmc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 412 Thanks: 211 Thanked 106 Times in 73 Posts	Amazing force, although it dosen't appear anyone cared much to prepare with kayaks and what not still in the water of harbor. One question for, anyone smarter than a fifth grader? Why do the waves appear move so slow, when they are said to be traveling at 500mph across the ocean? I realize in the video, its slightly sheltered inland, but still. Last edited by pcmc; 03-17-2011 at 09:11 PM.

03-21-2011, 05:43 PM	#10
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	Our local lake level is, well, elevated. The lake level has increased by more than a foot in the past couple weeks. We are well outside the standard deviation for this time of year (standard deviation = means that this happens only once or twice every decade, even though the last time was in 2010). A big rainstorm on top of sudden warm weather will push us well over the top. Although we have a ways to go yet to a full lake (another 1/2 foot to go from today's 503.77' to 504.32'), we need to keep an eye on this. Attached Images

03-23-2011, 08:55 AM	#12
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Floods are preventable It would be nice to see some more transparency from the dam operator. What is their strategy? What are the constraints? Why isn't the outflow at emergency levels to strive for average levels? There were four floods since 2000 (defined as Winnipesaukee level over 505 feet above sea level). This was a big snow year. There is still a lot of water in the watersheds. To have the lake this high, which is the second highest in recent history for this date, is scary. The NH DES snowpack reports seem to be missing from the DES web site, so it is hard to compare against other flood years. There is a lot of efforts going into improving lake water quality. A flood sets back the efforts by eroding the shoreline, adding sediment and nutriments to the lake. Mother nature is a factor here, but so is the person and policies in control of the dam. There should be some accountability at the state level to prevent the lake from flooding. As of this morning, the lake level was 503.84 (14" below flood stage) and the output was 1494 CFM. We've seen output levels at 2400 CFM, so there is room to act. __________________ -lg

03-11-2011, 10:32 PM	#2
Bear Island South Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southboro, MA Posts: 579 Thanks: 75 Thanked 384 Times in 170 Posts	We are hoping the water level on the ice isn't bad, planning one last trip to the Island tomorrow. Winter season is over ...bring on spring and ice-out

03-12-2011, 09:50 AM	#3
Bear247 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Natick Ma. Posts: 110 Thanks: 149 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Yes bring on ice out.

03-12-2011, 08:22 PM	#5
corollaman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 181 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	What's nice about the Lakes Region, the destructive weather isn't the norm here, I'll deal with the cold, snow, and ice for a few months out of the year and still have my house in one piece, instead of having to worry all the time if a tornado is gonna rip my house to smithereens, or if a category 5 hurricane is gonna wreck everything, or if my house is gonna be buried in a mudslide.

03-20-2011, 11:04 AM	#7
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Noticed the water is now back at the bottom of my dock bumpers. It has been below those by about 6 inches most of the winter. So it is rising a bit.

03-21-2011, 04:06 AM	#9
pcmc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 412 Thanks: 211 Thanked 106 Times in 73 Posts	I don't know this for sure, but can only imagine, its more a shock wave, that travels across the open ocean and runs aground as it comes a shore, slowing it down as you mentioned. (well it sounds good anyway)