What Sailboat should I get?

Lucky2Bhere · 06-24-2009, 01:39 PM

I'm looking for a used 15-16 foot sailboat to sail in Braun Bay. Any suggestions? Centerboard/Keel? Stabile in moderate wind/Responsive in light wind. Has anyone had experience with an AMF Sunbird? I'm looking for a basic easy to use but fun boat for 1-4 passengers.

NoBozo · 06-24-2009, 06:52 PM

If you said One Person....I would recommend a Laser....assuming you are reasonably physically fit. FAST..easy to sail..daggerboard, and easy to SELL when you decide to go bigger. It's a BIG International Racing Class.

If you are looking to sit back and relax a little bit...I recommend an old O'Day "Daysailer"...centerboard. Carry two or three other people when you feel like it....you could put a small outboard on it to get you back to the dock when the wind dies. The wind dies often enough on Winni.

You asked about Keel Vs. Centerboard. My choice for the lake would be Centerboard...hands down.

PROs: You can hit .."pass over" a rock with most centerboards and it will retract itself without damage, thereby allowing you to navigate in shallow water. Centerboard boats are faster offwind/downwind because you normally lift the CB, reducing water resistance on that point of sail. Easy trailerable.

CONs: CB boats are more "Tender" in a breeze, meaning you will have to shift your weight more often in a puff..

Keel Boats: PROs: Are more stable in a breeze...less shifting of your weight in the puff. More secure feeling.

Keel Boats: CONs: Most keel boats over about 17 feet, although trailerable, will be a PAIN in the butt to launch and retrieve because of the depth of water needed to float the boat off the cradled trailer. Sailboat masts are a lot of work to (step) "put up"..either ON the trailer OR in the water.

Beware of Keel-Centerboard boats. They are a compromise and they do Nothing Well. They are always SLOW.

Dave R · 06-24-2009, 08:23 PM

Another vote for an O'Day Daysailer. They are fun, forgiving, and reward good technique. Seem to hold their value too.

Seeker · 06-24-2009, 08:37 PM

Yet another vote for the O'Day unless you have considerable experience and it doesn't sound like it. I think you will like it and it is safe and comfortable.
Now if you are in your teens I would probably make a different recommendation.

Another option is check out the sailing club(?) near Ellacoya. No idea what they use but I believe they have a website.

fatlazyless · 06-24-2009, 09:14 PM

Try checking out either a used C&L 14'er or 16'er, or a 1980's used Hobie Holder 14'er. C&L's are made new in Ontario and have a website with a 'for sale used' section. All three are traditional day sailers with seating for four or more, main and jib sails, and a removable centerboard. Maybe do a craigslist search for a used one in NH, ME, VT, or MA?

Kamper · 06-25-2009, 08:59 AM

I second a look at "Craigslist." The current 'boat pages' have some snailboats including a free handy-man special. Oh yeah, check out the "FREE" pages too, you never know what you'll find.

You might want to go to the library or bookstore and read up on sailing. This will help you decide what you migh feel comfortable with.

Good luck!

SAMIAM · 06-26-2009, 07:58 AM

Try to find a Kestrel......I had one years ago and with the spinnaker out,you could dam near pull a skier.

06-24-2009, 01:39 PM	#1
Lucky2Bhere Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Moultonboro & SE Florida Posts: 94 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	What Sailboat should I get? I'm looking for a used 15-16 foot sailboat to sail in Braun Bay. Any suggestions? Centerboard/Keel? Stabile in moderate wind/Responsive in light wind. Has anyone had experience with an AMF Sunbird? I'm looking for a basic easy to use but fun boat for 1-4 passengers.

06-24-2009, 06:52 PM	#2
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	If you said One Person....I would recommend a Laser....assuming you are reasonably physically fit. FAST..easy to sail..daggerboard, and easy to SELL when you decide to go bigger. It's a BIG International Racing Class. If you are looking to sit back and relax a little bit...I recommend an old O'Day "Daysailer"...centerboard. Carry two or three other people when you feel like it....you could put a small outboard on it to get you back to the dock when the wind dies. The wind dies often enough on Winni. You asked about Keel Vs. Centerboard. My choice for the lake would be Centerboard...hands down. PROs: You can hit .."pass over" a rock with most centerboards and it will retract itself without damage, thereby allowing you to navigate in shallow water. Centerboard boats are faster offwind/downwind because you normally lift the CB, reducing water resistance on that point of sail. Easy trailerable. CONs: CB boats are more "Tender" in a breeze, meaning you will have to shift your weight more often in a puff.. Keel Boats: PROs: Are more stable in a breeze...less shifting of your weight in the puff. More secure feeling. Keel Boats: CONs: Most keel boats over about 17 feet, although trailerable, will be a PAIN in the butt to launch and retrieve because of the depth of water needed to float the boat off the cradled trailer. Sailboat masts are a lot of work to (step) "put up"..either ON the trailer OR in the water. Beware of Keel-Centerboard boats. They are a compromise and they do Nothing Well. They are always SLOW. Last edited by NoBozo; 06-25-2009 at 09:10 AM.

06-24-2009, 09:14 PM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,746 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,007 Times in 735 Posts	Try checking out either a used C&L 14'er or 16'er, or a 1980's used Hobie Holder 14'er. C&L's are made new in Ontario and have a website with a 'for sale used' section. All three are traditional day sailers with seating for four or more, main and jib sails, and a removable centerboard. Maybe do a craigslist search for a used one in NH, ME, VT, or MA? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

06-24-2009, 08:23 PM	#3
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 246 Thanked 744 Times in 444 Posts	Another vote for an O'Day Daysailer. They are fun, forgiving, and reward good technique. Seem to hold their value too.

06-24-2009, 08:37 PM	#4
Seeker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Effingham Posts: 408 Thanks: 37 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	Yet another vote for the O'Day unless you have considerable experience and it doesn't sound like it. I think you will like it and it is safe and comfortable. Now if you are in your teens I would probably make a different recommendation. Another option is check out the sailing club(?) near Ellacoya. No idea what they use but I believe they have a website.

06-25-2009, 08:59 AM	#6
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,306 Thanks: 67 Thanked 171 Times in 127 Posts	I second a look at "Craigslist." The current 'boat pages' have some snailboats including a free handy-man special. Oh yeah, check out the "FREE" pages too, you never know what you'll find. You might want to go to the library or bookstore and read up on sailing. This will help you decide what you migh feel comfortable with. Good luck!

06-26-2009, 07:58 AM	#7
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,894 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,675 Times in 585 Posts	Try to find a Kestrel......I had one years ago and with the spinnaker out,you could dam near pull a skier.