Boating Rage Leads to Attempted Murder

mcdude · 08-14-2007, 08:27 AM

With all of the stories I have read here about Capt. Bonehead could an incident like this be far behind?
BOSTON GLOBE ARTICLE: Boating Rage

File Under, "What were they thinking?"

Dave R · 08-14-2007, 08:47 AM

Considering they have known each other for years, I think the rage probably had nothing to do with a boating incident.

Paugus Bay Resident · 08-14-2007, 09:12 AM

Agreed, saw a report on the news this morning and apparently these guys have known each other for a long time and had some sort of on-going "disagreement".

kjbathe · 08-14-2007, 10:22 AM

"This has been blown way out of proportion," said Katharine Phillips as she waited for her husband to appear in court. "They just lost their tempers."

Blown way out of proportion? The guy intentionally rammed another boat! Not once, but twice! What exactly do they think is in proportion?

And to mcdude's question, I think an incident like this is more than possible on Winni these days. As I noted in another thread, there's an awful lot of yelling and negative gesturing out there. And for what? When folks can get that torqued, it's not a long trip before the remaining behavior and lack of judgment appears.

SAMIAM · 08-14-2007, 10:53 AM

Kinda funny,really. The report on NESN said that they were throwing full beer cans at each other.....which anyone knows is stupid because they foam up after being shaken.Yuk,yuk

NoRegrets · 08-14-2007, 12:50 PM

This is a clear example of Alcohol Abuse! Bear was made to be consumed and not tossed around in a manor other than it's intended purpose. This behavior is totally W R O N G !

Looks like the parties were and have been completely out of control.

lake4life · 08-14-2007, 01:15 PM

"But Peter Gifford, Salem harbormaster, said witnesses told investigators Phillips opened the throttle on his boat and was going as fast as 40 miles per hour when he slammed into Silva's boat."

Could someone direct me to a pontoon boat that can reach 40 mph? pfft

wildwoodfam · 08-14-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lake4life

"But Peter Gifford, Salem harbormaster, said witnesses told investigators Phillips opened the throttle on his boat and was going as fast as 40 miles per hour when he slammed into Silva's boat."

Could someone direct me to a pontoon boat that can reach 40 mph? pfft

Remember that the vessels that were in the dispute were oean going vessels - so one would hope the pontoon has a larger engine for open sea boating! My neighbors had a 26' pontoon with two engines and that thing hauled out of his dock!! And unfortunately INTO his dock one fateful night...talk about mis-use of beer!

Paugus Bay Resident · 08-14-2007, 02:04 PM

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The report on NESN said that they were throwing full beer cans at each other

I guess that's why a lot of people call them "can boats"

Woodsy · 08-14-2007, 02:46 PM

They showed the pix last night of the victims boat.... and the defendants! Just upon a casual glance, I seriously doubt the pontoon boat was traveling at close to 40MPH. There are some small scratches on the gunwales of the victims small Checkmate outboard and no easily visible damage to the defendants pontoon.

It sounds to me like a whole bunch of AIS (Alcohol Induced Stupidity)!!

Woodsy

asdf · 08-14-2007, 04:28 PM

Looks like another case promoting Darwins theory; "Survival of the Fittest". Left to their own devices, only the smarter humans will be left to cruise the lake!

SIKSUKR · 08-15-2007, 08:11 AM

Maybe I was seeing different photos than you Woodsey but the boat I saw had quite a smashed in front end.I think we need a speed limit on the ocean as well.Ya thats it.That would have prevented this accident from happening right?Wrong!

John A. Birdsall · 08-15-2007, 11:17 AM

Well, they need something on the ocean, look at all the submarines that have ramed ships, boats, I suppose speed might have something to do with that.

SIKSUKR · 08-16-2007, 12:48 PM

That was a tongue in cheek post John.

SteveA · 08-16-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NoRegrets

This is a clear example of Alcohol Abuse! Bear was made to be consumed and not tossed around in a manor other than it's intended purpose. This behavior is totally W R O N G !

Looks like the parties were and have been completely out of control.

Unless it was Coors Light... that's more like throwing cans of water at someone..

Tank151 · 08-17-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NoRegrets

This is a clear example of Alcohol Abuse! Bear was made to be consumed and not tossed around in a manor other than it's intended purpose. This behavior is totally W R O N G !

Looks like the parties were and have been completely out of control.

I didn't know you could get intoxicated by eating Bear? Geez I hope they were throwing "empties" at each other instead of full cans?

I'm a little suspicious about the Pontoon boat doing 40 miles an hour?

Tank

08-14-2007, 08:27 AM	#1
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Boating Rage Leads to Attempted Murder With all of the stories I have read here about Capt. Bonehead could an incident like this be far behind? BOSTON GLOBE ARTICLE: Boating Rage File Under, "What were they thinking?"

08-14-2007, 10:22 AM	#4
kjbathe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 281 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts	With "Friends" Like This... "This has been blown way out of proportion," said Katharine Phillips as she waited for her husband to appear in court. "They just lost their tempers." Blown way out of proportion? The guy intentionally rammed another boat! Not once, but twice! What exactly do they think is in proportion? And to mcdude's question, I think an incident like this is more than possible on Winni these days. As I noted in another thread, there's an awful lot of yelling and negative gesturing out there. And for what? When folks can get that torqued, it's not a long trip before the remaining behavior and lack of judgment appears.

08-14-2007, 12:50 PM	#6
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	Alcohol Abuse! This is a clear example of Alcohol Abuse! Bear was made to be consumed and not tossed around in a manor other than it's intended purpose. This behavior is totally W R O N G ! Looks like the parties were and have been completely out of control.

08-14-2007, 02:46 PM	#10
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,965 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Ais!! They showed the pix last night of the victims boat.... and the defendants! Just upon a casual glance, I seriously doubt the pontoon boat was traveling at close to 40MPH. There are some small scratches on the gunwales of the victims small Checkmate outboard and no easily visible damage to the defendants pontoon. It sounds to me like a whole bunch of AIS (Alcohol Induced Stupidity)!! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-14-2007, 04:28 PM	#11
asdf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Darwin strikes again! Looks like another case promoting Darwins theory; "Survival of the Fittest". Left to their own devices, only the smarter humans will be left to cruise the lake!

08-14-2007, 08:47 AM	#2
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,984 Thanks: 246 Thanked 743 Times in 443 Posts	Considering they have known each other for years, I think the rage probably had nothing to do with a boating incident.

08-14-2007, 09:12 AM	#3
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Agreed, saw a report on the news this morning and apparently these guys have known each other for a long time and had some sort of on-going "disagreement".

08-14-2007, 10:53 AM	#5
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,893 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,675 Times in 585 Posts	Kinda funny,really. The report on NESN said that they were throwing full beer cans at each other.....which anyone knows is stupid because they foam up after being shaken.Yuk,yuk

08-14-2007, 01:15 PM	#7
lake4life Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 33 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	"But Peter Gifford, Salem harbormaster, said witnesses told investigators Phillips opened the throttle on his boat and was going as fast as 40 miles per hour when he slammed into Silva's boat." Could someone direct me to a pontoon boat that can reach 40 mph? pfft

08-15-2007, 08:11 AM	#12
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Maybe I was seeing different photos than you Woodsey but the boat I saw had quite a smashed in front end.I think we need a speed limit on the ocean as well.Ya thats it.That would have prevented this accident from happening right?Wrong! __________________ SIKSUKR

08-15-2007, 11:17 AM	#13
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	speed limits on ocean?? Well, they need something on the ocean, look at all the submarines that have ramed ships, boats, I suppose speed might have something to do with that.

08-16-2007, 12:48 PM	#14
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	That was a tongue in cheek post John. __________________ SIKSUKR