Wrong Color Marker?

[skprbob]

Originally Posted by GWC...

You are correct for FL 1 and your dissertation about FL 41 makes sense, until one consults a map.


Consulting a map, one realizes that the course is almost identical as the one you describe for FL 41 as for FL 1 when leaving the Weirs docks and heading toward Eagle Island, more so if one is leaving the Weirs channel.

The point being, the current system has its flaws and MP provides an answer similar to yours when queried and FL 1 is used as an example.

Thusly, it is very easy to understand the confusion and dismay with the color of some buoys and the location of the hazard they warn, as described by hazelnut.

I'll try once more to be clear about FL41 - when you make the approach along the Cow Isl shore from the broads, you're travelling north. Pass the much-discussed red-top to the west, keeping it to your right, and continue on toward FL41. One is still travelling northward and one passes the black-top and light to the east, keeping them on your left. As you turn left toward Little Bear Isl, you still have the black-top/light on your left, and you are now north of them and still safe! No confusion here. The rocks are southwest of the black-top/light, exactly where they're supposed to be.

[JTA]

I agree skprbob. I've been navigating there for years. Now, can you explain the red color of the two markers going in to Lucy's? They should be black in my opinion.

[hazelnut]

FL41 is not the issue. FL41 is the correct color and the correct location. The red top spar off of the beach at Idlewild is the wrong color.

I checked AGAIN with my compass after much discussion on the forum and the marker is placed to the NORTH of a hazard. The only logical direction you would be traveling is East/West course when arriving upon this buoy. Pass to the South and you will lose your prop.

Oh well interpretation is in the eye of the beholder I guess. I just do not see how they arrived at placing a red topped spar in that location.

As Bizer said it is a judgement call.. I disagree with the judge.

[skprbob]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

FL41 is not the issue. FL41 is the correct color and the correct location. The red top spar off of the beach at Idlewild is the wrong color.

I checked AGAIN with my compass after much discussion on the forum and the marker is placed to the NORTH of a hazard. The only logical direction you would be traveling is East/West course when arriving upon this buoy. Pass to the South and you will lose your prop.

Oh well interpretation is in the eye of the beholder I guess. I just do not see how they arrived at placing a red topped spar in that location.

As Bizer said it is a judgement call.. I disagree with the judge.

The FL41 discussion was prompted by GWC - I realize that is not your issue.

I mentioned in a recent post that it is possible that the red-top marker is out of position - that happens more often than one might think.

If you're travelling east/west at this marker, you're travelling either directly toward or away from the Cow Isl shoreline. Most people are travelling roughly parallel to the shore, ie north/south. Pass on the west side of the marker.

I also realize that my explanation is probably futile by now. I suggest you contact Marine Patrol and report the problem color and/or that the marker is out of position. I won't waste the forum's time.

[GWC...]

Originally Posted by skprbob

The FL41 discussion was prompted by GWC - I realize that is not your issue.

Too funny...

Perhaps you forgot this post:

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...5&postcount=15

The designated paths shown on a Bizer map (dotted or broken line) are almost parallel when approaching the area of discussion (FL 41 - Cow Island) from the Broads and when leaving the Weirs channel and approaching FL1.

Interestingly, the proper path passes the buoys in question on opposite sides.

Bottom line: Don't boat on the Lake without a map...

[Bizer]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

As Bizer said it is a judgement call.. I disagree with the judge.

One more thought: The directions are probably established with a magnetic compass. At Winnipesaukee, a magnetic heading differs from a true heading by 16 degrees.

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by JTA

I agree skprbob. I've been navigating there for years. Now, can you explain the red color of the two markers going in to Lucy's? They should be black in my opinion.

As far as I'm concerned those markers by Mama's are correct also.You must stay south of them.Hazelnut,I did not have a chance to get there this weekend.I was in the area Saturday but had my mind set on making the crossing across the broads in those 3-4 foot swells on my little PWC.I still believe all those markers are correct but like other areas on the lake they can be confusing when coming from a different heading.When I look on a chart they make sense.