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Old 04-24-2008, 08:34 AM   #1
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As Skip points out, it's hard to stop a drunk. However a horsepower limit will "limit" the damage he can do.

The Cigarette accident in Gilford was talked about on the forum, including a post from the operators nephew. Do a search for 8/21/2003 to 8/28/2003. Look for "Baja gets air" and "Boat enters cottage - upside down.."

There is also a post there where I recommend a horsepower limit. It seems I didn't come up with this as part of a WinnFABS plot.
BZZZZT! Wrong answer - as I showed you before, a 20' boat with a 250 hp outboard that can do 80+ mph blows away your theory on the hp limit being a way to "slow down" the lake and limit any speed related accidents by limiting the hp!

And how about we look at ALL the accidents in the last 30 years that invloved drinking and boating - and how many of those were in performance boats where speed was a direct factor, and how many in non-performance boats - you know, anything but those big-bad "Cigarette" boats.

Again - people kill people - guns don't kill people!!! It's not the boat - it is the OPERATOR! A 22' bowrider at 45mph is just as dangerous with a drunk behind the wheel as any other boat on the water - including a kayak with a drunk operator!

Your not going to prevent car accidents by outlawing sports cars - just like you're not going to prevent accidents like you mentioned (back in 1975 ) by getting "Cigarette" boats off the lake! Call a spade a spade - will ya, it's not the speed that bothers you - it's the boats! Don't hate the playa - hate the game!!
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:11 AM   #2
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Again - people kill people - guns don't kill people!!! It's not the boat - it is the OPERATOR! A 22' bowrider at 45mph is just as dangerous with a drunk behind the wheel as any other boat on the water - including a kayak with a drunk operator!
A 22' bowrider at 45mph is just as dangerous with a drunk behind the wheel as any other boat on the water - including a kayak with a drunk operator!

If you really believe that I suggest you enroll in a basic physics course, because you do not know how to Do The Math.

A kayak with a drunk operator, a 22' bowrider with a drunk operator, a 1,700 horsepower Nor-Tech with a drunk operator. They are all just as dangerous?

I really hope some Senators are reading this.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:16 AM   #3
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A 22' bowrider at 45mph is just as dangerous with a drunk behind the wheel as any other boat on the water - including a kayak with a drunk operator!

If you really believe that I suggest you enroll in a basic physics course, because you do not know how to Do The Math.

A kayak with a drunk operator, a 22' bowrider with a drunk operator, a 1,700 horsepower Nor-Tech with a drunk operator. They are all just as dangerous?

I really hope some Senators are reading this.
I hope they are too! And yes, I stand by that statement and my math is just fine - as is my physics comprehension! I am not looking to split hairs and discuss semantics here, I am simply stating that a drunk behind the wheel (or paddle) of ANY BOAT is dangerous and has the POTENTIAL to kill. I'm not looking to discuss the whole E=MC2 or how weight has an effect on impact with varying speeds, or why you think a Nor-Tech (amazingly well built and performing boat, BTW) with 1,700hp is "extra dangerous" or whatever...


Just admit it - you hate the player, not the game!! You hate the "big-bad" performance boats - for whatever twisted reason you have come up with in your head - and want to run them out of town...

Do you know Acres Per Second by chance?
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