Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > General Discussion
Home Forums Gallery Webcams Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Register FAQ Members List Donate Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-20-2026, 08:36 AM   #1
Steveo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 530
Thanks: 47
Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts
Default Alton new tax assessments in

Just received the my new Alton tax assessments. Mine went up 65%. Haven't seen what the new tax rate will be but have to assume it will be same so tax will go up 65% too. All this does is force the average person, particularly the elderly, out of their homes they have owed for generation (personally 38 years) and then having just the rich that can afford the lake. Also when you sell your home you get hit by huge capital gains tax on top of losing your home - a lose-lose.
Steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2026, 08:44 AM   #2
smith point boater
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: West Alton,NH
Posts: 229
Thanks: 345
Thanked 101 Times in 60 Posts
Default

You just ruined my day!! Don't want to get the mail now!!

Hopefully the tax rate will drop but there will still be a net increase in the tax paid
smith point boater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2026, 08:49 AM   #3
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 4,157
Thanks: 3
Thanked 701 Times in 580 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
Just received the my new Alton tax assessments. Mine went up 65%. Haven't seen what the new tax rate will be but have to assume it will be same so tax will go up 65% too. All this does is force the average person, particularly the elderly, out of their homes they have owed for generation (personally 38 years) and then having just the rich that can afford the lake. Also when you sell your home you get hit by huge capital gains tax on top of losing your home - a lose-lose.
Did the town or school budget increase?
I believe that the county did.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2026, 09:00 AM   #4
Little Bear
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 616
Thanks: 143
Thanked 278 Times in 149 Posts
Default

Flood them with abatements and, when rejected, flood them with lawsuits in Superior Court.
Little Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2026, 11:33 AM   #5
P-3 Guy
Senior Member
 
P-3 Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Under the former KNHZ bounce pattern
Posts: 516
Thanks: 4
Thanked 214 Times in 117 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
Also when you sell your home you get hit by huge capital gains tax on top of losing your home - a lose-lose.
If and when you sell, and if you meet the primary residence requirements, you can exclude up to $250k (if filing single) or $500k (married filing joint return) of profit from capital gains taxation. And for any profit from a qualifying primary home sale that does get taxed as a capital gain, the tax rate maxes out at 20% and could be as low as 0%- certainly better than being taxed as ordinary income. Yeah, having to sell your home because you can't afford the property tax bill sucks, but if your profit is so large that paying capital gains tax is in the mix, some might see that as a positive.
P-3 Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-20-2026, 04:17 PM   #6
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community
Posts: 3,406
Thanks: 1,271
Thanked 2,157 Times in 989 Posts
Default

The tax rate (with some minor adjustments) is the total amount to be collected by taxes divided by the net valuation.

The amount to be collected is the sum of town plus school budgets (approved by the voters) plus the town’s share of the county budget.

The net valuation is sum of all property assessments.

If your assessment increase % is the same as the overall net valuation % increase, then any increase in actual tax would be due only to an increase in voter approved budgets.

In a revaluation some classes of property increase more than others.

Alan
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Slickcraft For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (11-10-2026)
Old 10-20-2026, 08:39 PM   #7
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 2,620
Thanks: 1,458
Thanked 1,088 Times in 679 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
Just received the my new Alton tax assessments. Mine went up 65%. Haven't seen what the new tax rate will be but have to assume it will be same so tax will go up 65% too. All this does is force the average person, particularly the elderly, out of their homes they have owed for generation (personally 38 years) and then having just the rich that can afford the lake. Also when you sell your home you get hit by huge capital gains tax on top of losing your home - a lose-lose.
Ouch! But it seems impossible for a given house to have increased by 65% in a year without some sort of special circumstance. Is there information you've left out of your post?
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 05:10 AM   #8
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 803
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,056 Posts
Default

Let us know when you get your rate. Usually they go down accordingly but ours didn't this past year after a big rise in valuation. The town had no answer, as there was no big rise in spending.
tis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 06:40 AM   #9
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 516
Thanks: 5
Thanked 179 Times in 92 Posts
Default moultoboro

My assesment has doubled in the past few years but my tax due hasn't gone up that much. Tax rate drops commensurately. Chill.
rsmlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 07:26 AM   #10
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 803
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,056 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
My assesment has doubled in the past few years but my tax due hasn't gone up that much. Tax rate drops commensurately. Chill.
That's what has always happened to us in the past, but not this time.
tis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tis For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (11-10-2026)
Old 10-21-2026, 08:21 AM   #11
Steveo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 530
Thanks: 47
Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
Ouch! But it seems impossible for a given house to have increased by 65% in a year without some sort of special circumstance. Is there information you've left out of your post?
No, This is a assessment that is done every 5 years so its over that period.
Steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 08:25 AM   #12
Steveo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 530
Thanks: 47
Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-3 Guy View Post
If and when you sell, and if you meet the primary residence requirements, you can exclude up to $250k (if filing single) or $500k (married filing joint return) of profit from capital gains taxation. And for any profit from a qualifying primary home sale that does get taxed as a capital gain, the tax rate maxes out at 20% and could be as low as 0%- certainly better than being taxed as ordinary income. Yeah, having to sell your home because you can't afford the property tax bill sucks, but if your profit is so large that paying capital gains tax is in the mix, some might see that as a positive.
This is a non-primary house so it doesn't get any of the benefits you are talking about except 20% rate cap
Steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 08:28 AM   #13
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 2,620
Thanks: 1,458
Thanked 1,088 Times in 679 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
No, This is a assessment that is done every 5 years so its over that period.
Ah, thanks. Easy to understand that if previous assessment was off of pre-covid market.
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 08:32 AM   #14
ITD
Senior Member
 
ITD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Moultonboro, NH
Posts: 2,963
Thanks: 490
Thanked 704 Times in 394 Posts
Default

Yeah, if your house went up 65% and average increase is say 5%, you are in for a shock, but if the town wide assessments went up 65%, your taxes shouldn't increase, at least because of your assessment. Town meeting and state entities vote to raise taxes, that's how they rise.

The only time your assessment will raise your taxes is if your property appreciates faster than the town average increase.
ITD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2026, 10:22 AM   #15
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 516
Thanks: 5
Thanked 179 Times in 92 Posts
Default tax

Quote:
Originally Posted by ITD View Post
Yeah, if your house went up 65% and average increase is say 5%, you are in for a shock, but if the town wide assessments went up 65%, your taxes shouldn't increase, at least because of your assessment. Town meeting and state entities vote to raise taxes, that's how they rise.

The only time your assessment will raise your taxes is if your property appreciates faster than the town average increase.
Yeah, I'd be surprised (and not a little bit pissed off) is your tax bill increases by more than 5%.
rsmlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2026, 08:34 AM   #16
BroadHopper
Senior Member
 
BroadHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Laconia NH
Posts: 5,716
Thanks: 3,337
Thanked 1,145 Times in 823 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-3 Guy View Post
If and when you sell, and if you meet the primary residence requirements, you can exclude up to $250k (if filing single) or $500k (married filing joint return) of profit from capital gains taxation. And for any profit from a qualifying primary home sale that does get taxed as a capital gain, the tax rate maxes out at 20% and could be as low as 0%- certainly better than being taxed as ordinary income. Yeah, having to sell your home because you can't afford the property tax bill sucks, but if your profit is so large that paying capital gains tax is in the mix, some might see that as a positive.
The 250/500k threshold is way outdated it should be adjusted for market prices or inflation.
__________________
Someday may never be an actual day.
BroadHopper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to BroadHopper For This Useful Post:
Ben's Grampa (10-22-2026), Biggd (10-22-2026)
Old 10-22-2026, 09:25 AM   #17
tbonies
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Anchorage, Al
Posts: 149
Thanks: 58
Thanked 70 Times in 35 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadHopper View Post
The 250/500k threshold is way outdated it should be adjusted for market prices or inflation.
Sure. We are $40T in debt and we should expand our tax deductions. Makes sense to me.
tbonies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2026, 11:17 AM   #18
Ben's Grampa
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 334
Thanks: 280
Thanked 202 Times in 98 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbonies View Post
Sure. We are $40T in debt and we should expand our tax deductions. Makes sense to me.
The Debt is due to poor management of the country's finances. Unfortunately it doesn't really matter what the tax revenue is, the politicians will spend what they want, they don't care about Govt. waste or balanced budgets.
Ben's Grampa is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ben's Grampa For This Useful Post:
ITD (10-27-2026)
Old 10-28-2026, 02:10 PM   #19
bbatch
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 14
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts
Default Alton new tax assessment in

How does the new assessment compare to what you'd expect to sell your house and property for, if you put them on the market today? My bet is that the new assessment is still lower. In other words; a fair assessment.

As others have pointed out, the property tax you'll actually pay next year is based on two components; the assessment and the tax rate. The new assessment is just the town trying to catch up with the skyrocketing real estate market. If the tax rate doesn't drop (almost) proportionate to the rise in assessment, then you'll have a complaint.

All in all, I'd say the town of Alton does a good job managing its budget. Compare your property taxes to some of the other towns in the Lakes Region. Praise be to all that shore-front property and their million-dollar homes!
bbatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2026, 06:29 AM   #20
smith point boater
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: West Alton,NH
Posts: 229
Thanks: 345
Thanked 101 Times in 60 Posts
Default Assessment

Finally got our assessment - up 69.2%. Be interesting to see the new rate
smith point boater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2026, 07:18 AM   #21
jeffk
Senior Member
 
jeffk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Center Harbor
Posts: 1,281
Thanks: 220
Thanked 505 Times in 294 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tis View Post
Let us know when you get your rate. Usually they go down accordingly but ours didn't this past year after a big rise in valuation. The town had no answer, as there was no big rise in spending.
What happened to rates this past year hasn't been impacted by the rising valuations yet.

If the new valuations are just coming out, they won't be reflected in the tax rate, which is set in November, and determines the end of year property tax bill.

Generally, lake front property value rises at a faster rate than inland property and their taxes go up, proportionately, more. As does their value.
jeffk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2026, 07:51 AM   #22
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 803
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,056 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffk View Post
What happened to rates this past year hasn't been impacted by the rising valuations yet.

If the new valuations are just coming out, they won't be reflected in the tax rate, which is set in November, and determines the end of year property tax bill.

Generally, lake front property value rises at a faster rate than inland property and their taxes go up, proportionately, more. As does their value.
Yes, the assessment in our town was done in '25 and our rates came out in Nov of 25. I know what things are going for on the lake and I can't argue with the assessments, BUT with that much more in assessments the rate should have gone done accordingly. A group of us lake home owners went to the town but they didn't have any answers for us.
tis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2026, 08:21 AM   #23
jeffk
Senior Member
 
jeffk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Center Harbor
Posts: 1,281
Thanks: 220
Thanked 505 Times in 294 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tis View Post
Yes, the assessment in our town was done in '25 and our rates came out in Nov of 25. I know what things are going for on the lake and I can't argue with the assessments, BUT with that much more in assessments the rate should have gone done accordingly. A group of us lake home owners went to the town but they didn't have any answers for us.
Sorry, I assumed you were in Alton Bay since that's where the thread started. Different towns do assessments in different years.

It's frustrating that some towns can't clearly explain why their taxes work the way they do. It shouldn't be that hard given the base numbers which are readily accessible. Citizens get really frustrated when their taxes go up and the town can't explain it.
jeffk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2026, 09:12 AM   #24
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 803
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,056 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffk View Post
Sorry, I assumed you were in Alton Bay since that's where the thread started. Different towns do assessments in different years.

It's frustrating that some towns can't clearly explain why their taxes work the way they do. It shouldn't be that hard given the base numbers which are readily accessible. Citizens get really frustrated when their taxes go up and the town can't explain it.
I agree. If they could have said our town expenses went up by that much or had some explanation, we would have felt better.
tis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2026, 10:38 AM   #25
phoenix
Senior Member
 
phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: phoenix and moultonboro
Posts: 1,605
Thanks: 67
Thanked 293 Times in 207 Posts
Default

any news on when Moultonborough will set its tax rate ?
__________________
it's tough to make predictions specially about the future
phoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2026, 11:58 AM   #26
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 803
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,056 Posts
Default

Most of them come out in November. The state actually sets the rate. The town sends their info in and the state says what the rate is going to be.
tis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2026, 05:39 PM   #27
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community
Posts: 3,406
Thanks: 1,271
Thanked 2,157 Times in 989 Posts
Default

A state DRA agent will meet with the town administrator or one of the selectmen. Factors include approved budgets, funds taken from capital reserves, other income such as grants, motor vehicle local tax and overlay (hedge against abatements and unpayed tax). DRA then divides the total amount to be collected by the total valuation to get the tax rate.

Alan
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Slickcraft For This Useful Post:
bigdog (10-31-2026), ghfromaltonbay (10-30-2026), WinniWen (11-09-2026)
Old 11-01-2026, 08:39 AM   #28
Steveo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 530
Thanks: 47
Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts
Default Alton Tax rate

I just talked to assessment company in Alton. He didn't give me the exact rate because they have to wait until all the reevaluations are done. But he said it will go down and looks like it will only raise my taxes but 10%, which I don't have a problem with.
Steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2026, 09:51 AM   #29
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 2,620
Thanks: 1,458
Thanked 1,088 Times in 679 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
I just talked to assessment company in Alton. He didn't give me the exact rate because they have to wait until all the reevaluations are done. But he said it will go down and looks like it will only raise my taxes but 10%, which I don't have a problem with.
10% over 5 years? Less than 2%/year--you're golden!
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2026, 10:50 AM   #30
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 4,157
Thanks: 3
Thanked 701 Times in 580 Posts
Default

The actual tax increase would be a year-over-year.

The assessment increase of 65% would be over a five year period.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to John Mercier For This Useful Post:
FlyingScot (11-01-2026)
Old 11-02-2026, 07:16 AM   #31
smith point boater
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: West Alton,NH
Posts: 229
Thanks: 345
Thanked 101 Times in 60 Posts
Default Alton

The town budget didn't go up 10%
smith point boater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2026, 03:49 PM   #32
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,648
Thanks: 1,747
Thanked 1,664 Times in 862 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
Just received the my new Alton tax assessments. Mine went up 65%. Haven't seen what the new tax rate will be but have to assume it will be same so tax will go up 65% too. All this does is force the average person, particularly the elderly, out of their homes they have owed for generation (personally 38 years) and then having just the rich that can afford the lake. Also when you sell your home you get hit by huge capital gains tax on top of losing your home - a lose-lose.
Why would you assume a 65% increase? The rate will go down.
VitaBene is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.18243 seconds