West Alton Marina Experience

[NightWing]

The post said that the boat had to be less than 10 years old in order to be on the waiting list. It said nothing about being evicted if the boat turned 10 years while being slipped at WAM.

There seems to be lots of heresay and assumptions being posted in this thread. I still think we need to hear first hand what their policies are. WAM is a part of what the lake has to offer. Let's respect that.

[Airwaves]

Nightwing wrote:

Before WAM is poorly spoken of any more, I think someone should either contact them to ask their policy or perhaps a current member could post the gist of their WAM contract.

LIforrelain wrote:

I think Nightwing hit the nail on the head here. I understand why someone would be peeved if there slip was taken out from under Them. But if it is in the contract then there is no arguement here.

You folks are ignoring one important statement. The person who was just thrown out of WAM, the one with the most immediate knowledge of the contract, AMekler, stated:

the contract did not mention service.

[NightWing]

You are also missing the part where the boat in question was stored on a trailer, not racked under cover. Racking is more expensive than lot storage. Obviously, WAM did not make the same income that they would have with racking and two season service.

One other point is that we are only hearing half the story.

[Weirs guy]

Originally Posted by NightWing

Racking is more expensive than lot storage. Obviously, WAM did not make the same income that they would have with racking and two season service.

OK, I gotta ask. I don't own a boat so I know nothing about storing them, but doesn't it stand to reason that the racks allow the maria to store more boats (by going vertically as well as horizontally) then just lot storage? They actually charge the customer more for something that benefits the company? Is there an advantage to rack storage I'm missing?

I may learn something new today!

[TomC]

... that puts your boat in/out of the water at your beck & call. There is a giant building, equipment to buy and maintain, and a salary to pay. Lot storage is: there's the field, and there's the boat ramp, have a nice day!

[fpartri497]

Originally Posted by TomC

... that puts your boat in/out of the water at your beck & call. There is a giant building, equipment to buy and maintain, and a salary to pay. Lot storage is: there's the field, and there's the boat ramp, have a nice day!

And how about the enormus taxes the marina must pay to the town of Alton???????

[fpartri497]

O.K. folks:

The exact wording on my WAM contract states as follows--

( 1) lease includes docking, winter storageand two vehicle parking permits.

(2 ) winterization and summeriazation are at lessee`s expense.


( 3) all waste and water tanks must be pumped prior to leaving boat for winter storage.


(4 ) arrangements must be made with the office to access your boat or enter WAM property Nov. 01 through april 30


End of story

[NightWing]

Originally Posted by Weirs guy

OK, I gotta ask. I don't own a boat so I know nothing about storing them, but doesn't it stand to reason that the racks allow the maria to store more boats (by going vertically as well as horizontally) then just lot storage? They actually charge the customer more for something that benefits the company? Is there an advantage to rack storage I'm missing?

I may learn something new today!

I wasn't referring to in and out racking instead of a wet slip. I was referring to indoor rack storage during the winter months.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Airwaves

...You folks are ignoring one important statement. The person who was just thrown out of WAM, the one with the most immediate knowledge of the contract...

Hmmmm.....

Let me play the devil's advocate here.

How do we know that the individual making the complaint was ever even a customer at WAM?

Did you see the contract between the alleged customer and WAM. How do you, or we, know what it said or did not say?

Did you personally contact the good folks at WAM to verify the anonymous individual's claims before you posted the following:

Originally Posted by Airwaves

...Based on that fact I will avoid doing business with them...

One important element that is necessary in a libel suit is evidence that a person's statement caused harm to the defendant. You, as a third party, have now publicly stated that you would avoid doing business with an entity due in part to public claims made by an alleged former customer.

A very slippery road to be on! And frankly I am surprised that someone with such an extensive media background as you profess would take such a profound public position without giving both sides the appropriate airing of their greivance.

Sadly the unfortunate "jumping to conclusions" mentality is something I am seeing all too often each night when I tune in the evening news. Objective journalism has been victimized for an ever increasing dependence on hype to ramp up sagging viewer ratings!

If ever there was a good example, this thread would suffice.

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[The Worm]

I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. How many people would assume that they could call a plumber to come over to replace their water heater, but inform him that you're going to buy one at Home Depot yourself, or if you're taking your car in for repairs but you're going to stop at the local NAPA store to pick up the parts first. This just doesn't happen. These are profit centers for any business in the service industry, it is part of how they make money. Money is not a dirty word. Marine service, winterization, storage, and recomissioning are all part of the overall profit picture at ANY marina, IT IS HOW THEY MAKE MONEY! How many marinas allow you to haul in jerry cans of fuel if they have their own gas dock? (hint: NONE) Does this mean that you will refuse to do business with them because they make you buy "their fuel"? Nobody is being forced to slip their boat at WAM, and they must be providing excellent service to their customer base or they wouldn't have a list of people waiting to get in.