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Old 05-01-2025, 07:06 PM   #1
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Just received this email from the Squam Lakes Association:

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AmeriCorps Program Terminated

We’re writing with difficult news that will have an immediate and profound impact on the Squam Lakes Association and our work protecting the Squam watershed. On Saturday, we learned that our AmeriCorps program — the Lakes Region Conservation Corps — has been terminated effective immediately.

The Lakes Region Conservation Corps (LRCC) encompassed eight New Hampshire conservation organizations and 27 service members who are now impacted by this decision. The LRCC was one of over 1,000 AmeriCorps programs across the nation that were illegally and immediately terminated, which affects roughly 32,000 people who were serving communities across the nation.

Since 2017, the LRCC has been the driving force behind many of the conservation efforts of New Hampshire’s Lakes Region and beyond. LRCC members have contributed to hands-on conservation in a variety of ways, including: leading water quality science, removing invasive species, maintaining trail networks, educating the public on local and regional conservation initiatives, managing volunteer crews, and more.

Our first priority is to our current members who have had their program unjustly terminated. While the federal termination of the AmeriCorps program is devastating, we are not standing still. Please keep an eye out for future correspondence, because we will need your support and advocacy in the coming weeks.
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What does this mean in terms of "lost" revenue to LRCC? How much of that was re-distributed to other groups? Name some, please. I know and have supported LRCT. Never had any awareness of LRCC.
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What does this mean in terms of "lost" revenue to LRCC? How much of that was re-distributed to other groups? Name some, please. I know and have supported LRCT. Never had any awareness of LRCC.
LRCT is a host site for LRCC. My understanding is they are paid through LRCC and do work for LRCT.
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What does this mean in terms of "lost" revenue to LRCC? How much of that was re-distributed to other groups? Name some, please. I know and have supported LRCT. Never had any awareness of LRCC.
It's not lost revenue, it's lost labor. The government pays the salaries of the Americorps workers, providing nonprofits such as Squam Lakes Association and Lakes Region Conservation Trust with low cost labor to do the kinds of things noted by the OP. So with the cancellation of the program, that's 32,000 people out of work, and a lot manual labor for nonprofits that will not be done.
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It's not lost revenue, it's lost labor. The government pays the salaries of the Americorps workers, providing nonprofits such as Squam Lakes Association and Lakes Region Conservation Trust with low cost labor to do the kinds of things noted by the OP. So with the cancellation of the program, that's 32,000 people out of work, and a lot manual labor for nonprofits that will not be done.
"32,000 jobs lost" piqued my curiosity. There's some difference in concepts here. It appears AmeriCorps gives money to several NH organizations such as Mt Washington Observatory, LRCC, LRCT, Squam Lakes Assoc., etc. for example. AmeriCorps is mostly staffed by 500 people in Washington DC and they rely on the local groups for local management. The "members" who do the work are not paid, although they get some living expenses. They get ~$500 a month, called a "Segal Education Award" when they complete either the 6 month or one year training program. It appears there were 1900 such trainees in NH in 2024. So yes, there's some valuable manpower here and some undefined grants to local organizations, but unpaid trainees are not 32,000 jobs lost. Nevertheless, some loss to our local programs. I'm sure they will work hard to make up the difference. The annual budget for AmeriCorps is about $1.5 billion.
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Excellent. The labor pool does need more able bodies


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"32,000 jobs lost" piqued my curiosity. There's some difference in concepts here. It appears AmeriCorps gives money to several NH organizations such as Mt Washington Observatory, LRCC, LRCT, Squam Lakes Assoc., etc. for example. AmeriCorps is mostly staffed by 500 people in Washington DC and they rely on the local groups for local management. The "members" who do the work are not paid, although they get some living expenses. They get ~$500 a month, called a "Segal Education Award" when they complete either the 6 month or one year training program. It appears there were 1900 such trainees in NH in 2024. So yes, there's some valuable manpower here and some undefined grants to local organizations, but unpaid trainees are not 32,000 jobs lost. Nevertheless, some loss to our local programs. I'm sure they will work hard to make up the difference. The annual budget for AmeriCorps is about $1.5 billion.
I wish you'd just say you don't like AmeriCorps. But let's not quibble on semantics. It's pretty straightforward--the "volunteers" or "trainees" were going to be paid "living expenses" and "awards" that are about the same low $ as similar jobs for young people. The local organizations were counting on that labor, and now they have no time or money to "make up the difference"
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I wish you'd just say you don't like AmeriCorps. But let's not quibble on semantics. It's pretty straightforward--the "volunteers" or "trainees" were going to be paid "living expenses" and "awards" that are about the same low $ as similar jobs for young people. The local organizations were counting on that labor, and now they have no time or money to "make up the difference"
Plenty of opportunities. Just need to know where to look for them.
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Some photos and info ....... http://www.lrct.org/our-work/lakes-r...ervation-corps ....... from the Lakes Region Conservation Trust.

The lakes region here in central New Hampshire is blessed with miles of mountain walking trails and many shoreline shallow waters good for paddling a kayak.

In this year 2025, the Town of Meredith is building ....... http://www.meredithnh.gov/293/Adapti...t-Leavitt-Park .... close to the Meredith-Center Harbor border on the northern end of Lake Winnipesaukee at Leavitt Beach.
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Plenty of opportunities. Just need to know where to look for them.
I agree there are plenty of opportunities and with your implication that every organization can be more efficient. But having worked with several nonprofits, the basic situation is that on any given day the group has about 20 to-do items, and only enough money for 10 of them.

They were already doing everything they could to get more donations and volunteers. So when they lose a bunch of cheap labor, they do 8 or 9 things instead of 10. For great local groups, like the Squam guys and LRCT, that's really a bummer
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Other land owners are using everything from timber operations, to carbon tax mitigation sales, to leasing their motorized trails.

Many LRCT lands already have some of this, but looking deeper means more revenue without really that much more volunteer efforts.
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Unfortunately the cancellation of funding isn't the only issue facing New Hampshire's natural resource's. The House budget as just sent forward includes a doubling of the fee carried by dam owners from $1,500 annually to $3,000. I am one of those dam owners and this is causing me to re-think the value of the pristine 53 acre pond my dam retains. Owning a dam is already a huge investment in both financial cost and the burdenship of responsibility.
The easy solution for me and many other dam owners would be to remove the spillway elevations and drain the retained waters. Jackson Pond would likely shrink from its current 53 acres of pristine fresh water to something around 15 acres surrounded by a muddy marsh. Many affected small lakes and ponds like this will disappear from the NH landscape forever, so this is no small issue.
Jackson Pond was dammed up in the 1890s and served for one hundred years as the Ashland Town water supply. My neighbor across the pond and myself bought the dam in 2018 to preserve it just as it is both for ourselves and the public to enjoy. The DES has inspected the dam twice since and so far there are no issues, But now, do to a legislative money grab the future of this dam must be reconsidered. As mentioned before we already singularly carry the burden to maintain this pristine waterway, but now find ourselves a target for budgetary reasons. Do you think this is fair? If not be sure to let your State Senator and the Govenor's office know ...before it is too late.
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The Proponents for less Government don't realize that many of the things they enjoy on a daily basis are funded by Government and are threatened by these blanket cutbacks. I'm all for Government cutbacks, but not with a chainsaw approach!
Wait until they start cutting our national forests, who is going to be left on the payroll to monitor this cutting?
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Prefer not to pay taxes so others can enjoy a picnic on private property
Off topic though related, the silence from every NH environmental group regarding the development and destruction of the Laconia State School Property is saddening.
Paving 100 acres and adding 2000 housing units a short distance uphill from a state park and Winnisquam Lake. The runoff alone into the lake will be so harmful to the environment and wildlife.


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Unfortunately the cancellation of funding isn't the only issue facing New Hampshire's natural resource's. The House budget as just sent forward includes a doubling of the fee carried by dam owners from $1,500 annually to $3,000. I am one of those dam owners and this is causing me to re-think the value of the pristine 53 acre pond my dam retains. Owning a dam is already a huge investment in both financial cost and the burdenship of responsibility.
The easy solution for me and many other dam owners would be to remove the spillway elevations and drain the retained waters. Jackson Pond would likely shrink from its current 53 acres of pristine fresh water to something around 15 acres surrounded by a muddy marsh. Many affected small lakes and ponds like this will disappear from the NH landscape forever, so this is no small issue.
Jackson Pond was dammed up in the 1890s and served for one hundred years as the Ashland Town water supply. My neighbor across the pond and myself bought the dam in 2018 to preserve it just as it is both for ourselves and the public to enjoy. The DES has inspected the dam twice since and so far there are no issues, But now, do to a legislative money grab the future of this dam must be reconsidered. As mentioned before we already singularly carry the burden to maintain this pristine waterway, but now find ourselves a target for budgetary reasons. Do you think this is fair? If not be sure to let your State Senator and the Govenor's office know ...before it is too late.
For some photos of Jackson Pond please check out the Lakes and Ponds gallery in this fantastic website.
I've never been to Jackson Pond, but this really seems like a bummer. Also an interesting puzzle. Please fill in some blanks for us--

Your and your neighbor have waterfront houses on the pond, and the dams are on your property?

Aside from the one neighbor you mention, are there other homes on the pond?

Have you tried to transfer ownership of the dams to a larger nonprofit that would not mind spending $3,000/year, or maybe that's not even possible?

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