NH State Inspection For Vehicles

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by jeffk

What about people driving cars with bad tires, brakes ready to give out, suspension parts ready to fail, and similar problems that can be a danger to other drivers?

Those people don't bother with inspections, insurance, registration, driver's licenses, etc.

Jeff, what about the person who buys a brand new car and has to pay an additional $50 to get it out of the showroom and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

[steve-on-mark]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Those people don't bother with inspections, insurance, registration, driver's licenses, etc.

Jeff, what about the person who buys a brand new car and has to pay an additional $50 to get it out of the showroom and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

A brand new car should come with a sticker at no charge. Some dealers, Planet Honda for one, don't charge for subsequent stickers.

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[fatlazyless]

Grappone Automotive in Bow NH has ten years free state inspections on used and new cars purchased at Grappone. Grappone helps to stay on top of car repair issues for the long drive, years ahead ...... .

My type of a price!

[John Mercier]

I think several bills are looking for ways to lower the cost of transportation.

It, along with housing affordability, has been an issue for more than two decades.

Lots of ideas, but someone has to lose some revenue, and that never seems to come to pass.

[tis]

This hasn't gone through the Senate yet, has it?

[SAB1]

Having spent 2 winters in Florida, a state with no vehicle inspections, I’m in favor of paying for an annual inspections. Lot of folks running on bald tires, brakes grinding to a halt, and vehicles that look like you wouldn’t want climb in and run the highway in them.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Having spent 2 winters in Florida, a state with no vehicle inspections, I’m in favor of paying for an annual inspections. Lot of folks running on bald tires, brakes grinding to a halt, and vehicles that look like you wouldn’t want climb in and run the highway in them.

Originally Posted by jeffk

What about people driving cars with bad tires, brakes ready to give out, suspension parts ready to fail, and similar problems that can be a danger to other drivers?

I have spent winters in Florida for the past 17 years I don't see any evidence that the lack of state inspections contributes to a higher accident rate. If a study exists that shows that it would certainly be touted by the people and lobbyists who want to keep the inspection law in place.
After driving over 2 million miles in the eastern 37 states my opinion is that Florida has the worst drivers in the country, and that is the cause of most accidents. I think it is the natives. Generations of poor drivers teaching the next generation how to be a poor driver. No turn signals, improper lane use, and tail gaiting are rampant. Most people don't even understand that they are doing anything wrong. Enforcement of laws is minimal and I was told by a Sheriff that over 85% of accidents are rear end collisions.

[tis]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I have spent winters in Florida for the past 17 years I don't see any evidence that the lack of state inspections contributes to a higher accident rate. If a study exists that shows that it would certainly be touted by the people and lobbyists who want to keep the inspection law in place.
After driving over 2 million miles in the eastern 37 states my opinion is that Florida has the worst drivers in the country, and that is the cause of most accidents. I think it is the natives. Generations of poor drivers teaching the next generation how to be a poor driver. No turn signals, improper lane use, and tail gaiting are rampant. Most people don't even understand that they are doing anything wrong. Enforcement of laws is minimal and I was told by a Sheriff that over 85% of accidents are rear end collisions.

I agree, the cars I see in Fl are no worse nor better than NH.

[steve-on-mark]

Originally Posted by tis

I agree, the cars I see in Fl are no worse nor better than NH.

Sometimes it's what you DON'T see...had a customer come in for a recall, and he had vice grips zip tied to a stabilizer link clamping off his brake flex hose so his caliper wouldn't continue to leak.

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[jeffk]

If they don't have insurance or a driver's licence, there is nothing on the car that reflects that illegality. If the car is not inspected or registered there is a visible notification to police officers that the car is NOT compliant.

As to the extra costs, if they just bought a $$$"brand new car", I don't think an extra $50 +$50 is going to be an issue. Sure, the law could be tweaked a bit.
On the other hand, if they bought a used car, the seller might be inclined to slide through the inspection and a follow up inspection, by a disinterested party, in a couple months wouldn't be an awful idea.

Originally Posted by Chubby

Those people don't bother with inspections, insurance, registration, driver's licenses, etc. T

Jeff, what about the person who buys a brand new car and has to pay an additional $50 to get it out of the showroom and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Those people don't bother with inspections, insurance, registration, driver's licenses, etc.

Jeff, what about the person who buys a brand new car and has to pay an additional $50 to get it out of the showroom and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

That's how NH wishes you "happy birthday".
A new vehicle should be exempt from paying for an inspection sticker, JMO.

[TheProfessor]

Originally Posted by Chubby

. . . what about the person who buys a brand new car and has to pay an additional $50 to get it out of the showroom and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

If one can afford a new $65,000 Volvo. $50.00 is just a tip at a nice local restaurant. Or half a carafe of wine at same restaurant.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

If one can afford a new $65,000 Volvo. $50.00 is just a tip at a nice local restaurant. Or half a carafe of wine at same restaurant.

Ummm...do you realize how small the group of people who own $65k cars and leave $50 tips on the regular is?

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[pondguy]

https://www.wmur.com/article/new-ham...51525/64785093

[John Mercier]

It came out of committee with a 3-3, no recommendation, and got placed on the regular calendar.

[ITD]

There are a lot of people who will drive a jalopy car with no brakes, broken springs, rotted out frames, worn out bearings, bad tires, bad shocks, big holes in sheet metal, the list goes on and on. Most either don't want to spend the money or can't afford to spend the money for repairs. I really don't want to share the road with these cars.

A car inspection in the state ranges from "$20 to $50" if you pay more than that then you probably are paying for things that needed to be repaired or replaced, or you need to find a new station.

Sorry folks, as much of a pain as the inspections are, I'm fine with them. If everyone were responsible and would not drive a deficient car, then I would agree with eliminating the inspections, but trust me, there more people than you would imagine who don't care. I've known quite a few.

[John Mercier]

The ones that can't afford it are what they are trying to figure out.

[tis]

We followed a truck yesterday with so much smoke coming out of it, we couldn't see in front of us. Overall I don't feel the road will be unsafe without car inspections. The cars here don't look any better to me than in Florida. I don't see all the junks in Fl. that some of you are talking about.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by tis

We followed a truck yesterday with so much smoke coming out of it, we couldn't see in front of us. Overall I don't feel the road will be unsafe without car inspections. The cars here don't look any better to me than in Florida. I don't see all the junks in Fl. that some of you are talking about.

Every single time I've been to Florida, I've noticed wayyyy more beaters than I ever see in New England.

In fact, last week when I wrote the comment about how few people drive $65k cars and tip $50, my family and I spent the whole ride from Lowell, MA to our camp looking at what people were driving, and we came up with two things: 1. A tiny, tiny percentage of the passenger (not including 18-wheelers, construction trucks etc.) vehicles were $65k+ and 2. There are almost no "old" cars on the road.

Stats show this as the average age of cars in NH is 10.3 vs. the national average, 12.2. And here's a map that shows Florida has a higher average age, as well.

The question, though, is safety—older cars definitely means higher maintenance requirements to maintain safety, but does it mean people don't do that maintenance?

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[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by tis

We followed a truck yesterday with so much smoke coming out of it, we couldn't see in front of us. Overall I don't feel the road will be unsafe without car inspections. The cars here don't look any better to me than in Florida. I don't see all the junks in Fl. that some of you are talking about.

I don't notice much of a difference in condition between cars in Florida and cars in New Hampshire. Florida does not have state mandated inspections and doesn't require front plates either. I have never seen statistics to support the necessity or show the safety benefit of either.

Police officers and DOT inspectors can and do write citations for excessive smoke or any other safety violations they observe. That does happen and reduces the amount of unsafe vehicles on the road. Heavy diesel trucks do not get emissions testing during a state inspection.

[tis]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I don't notice much of a difference in condition between cars in Florida and cars in New Hampshire. Florida does not have state mandated inspections and doesn't require front plates either. I have never seen statistics to support the necessity or show the safety benefit of either.

Police officers and DOT inspectors can and do write citations for excessive smoke or any other safety violations they observe. That does happen and reduces the amount of unsafe vehicles on the road. Heavy diesel trucks do not get emissions testing during a state inspection.

Thank you. Exactly the way I see it. And most violations that they check for on an inspection become obvious if they are not working.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

The ones that can't afford it are what they are trying to figure out.

Afford what, the inspection fee? At most, it's $4/month. If someone can't swing that, they almost certainly are driving a vehicle that's not adequately maintained.

Or are you talking about the costs associated with keeping automobiles at the level required to pass inspection?

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[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Afford what, the inspection fee? At most, it's $4/month. If someone can't swing that, they almost certainly are driving a vehicle that's not adequately maintained.

Or are you talking about the costs associated with keeping automobiles at the level required to pass inspection?

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Repairs.
The testimony before the committees is now online, and even in a text format.

Pretty transparent.

So far the costing issue this year has centered around housing, food, and transportation.

Transportation seemed to have the least areas that they could do anything at the State level.
Locally, many options exist... but those may not work for longer distances.

For housing, Belmont got ahead of the curve during out town meeting, and open residential properties to manufactured housing. That will now become a State law that municipalities will have until next June to comply with.
And they removed municipalities ability to expand the building code.

For food, they have several bills in. But again, most of this is currently local like transportation issues.

[John Mercier]

Appears the inspection bill is headed back to committee.

[Kamper]

Originally Posted by Chubby

... and another $50 a few months later on their birthday month ?

They should get inspected somewhere else. You can get a sticker up to 6 months before your birth month, now.