Man overboard from the mount!

dmjr · 10-31-2006, 02:49 PM

Just got back from EM Heath Hardware and saw the Mount is back in the winter dock. It amazes that me that someone could fall over the lower rail unless they loss there footing.

Orion · 10-31-2006, 03:30 PM

Looking at the bow configuration, if the Mount was making a turn and it was still very windy that night, the wind could pocket in that space between the upper and lower decks ahead of that bulkhead, and create a gust which could catch someone off guard as it went through the turn. Winds were still around 15-20 mph at that time. Maybe a costume which could catch the wind as well?

GWC... · 10-31-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion

Looking at the bow configuration, if the Mount was making a turn and it was still very windy that night, the wind could pocket in that space between the upper and lower decks ahead of that bulkhead, and create a gust which could catch someone off guard as it went through the turn. Winds were still around 15-20 mph at that time. Maybe a costume which could catch the wind as well?

Viable conclusion, except it's basically a straight shot between Rattlesnake Island and Welch Island. The incident seems to have happened near Welch Island, which would not lend credence to a turning scenario. From Welch Island, the Mount would travel between Timber Island and the Witches, Governor and Eagle Islands, and on toward the Weirs.

It's still a sad situation, whatever the cause.

DRH · 10-31-2006, 05:11 PM

The NH Fish and Game Dept. issued the following news release this afternoon:
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News from the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department
October 31, 2006
Phone: (603) 271-3211
Email: info@wildlife.state.nh.us
For information and online licenses, visit http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us

* * * * * * *

CONTACT:
Capt. Martin Garabedian: (603) 271-3361
Liza Poinier: (603) 271-3211
October 31, 2006

SEARCH FOR HOOKSETT MAN CONTINUES ON LAKE WINNIPESAUKEE

CONCORD, N.H. -- Search operations continued today for the recovery of James Sylvestre, age 45, of Hooksett, New Hampshire, who is presumed drowned after falling overboard from the M/S Mount Washington excursion ship on Saturday night, October 28, 2006, on Lake Winnipesaukee.

Search efforts were hampered on Sunday and Monday due to the high winds and rough water conditions. Tuesday, New Hampshire Fish and Game and N.H. Marine Patrol officers were joined in the search effort by New Hampshire and Connecticut State Police.

The N.H. State Police helicopter conducted a search of the lake and shoreline in the area of Rattlesnake Island.

Connecticut State Police are using a specialized underwater side-scan sonar unit capable of searching large areas of open water.

The search area is concentrated in the area of Welch and Rattlesnake islands, with water depths of 50 to 100 feet. The search will continue until dark, and if necessary, will resume on Wednesday morning, November 1.

N.H. Marine Patrol is conducting an investigation into the incident. Lt. James Goss of the N.H. Fish and Game Department is conducting the recovery effort.

No further information is available at this time.

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Copyright 2006 New Hampshire Fish and Game Department, 11 Hazen Drive, Concord, NH 03301. Comments or questions concerning this list should be directed to lpoinier@wildlife.state.nh.us.

Pineedles · 10-31-2006, 08:17 PM

Let's let the "reporters" research the facts and not let this forum be an easy source for them to pickup idle chatter which may or not be true.

No criticism of anyone intended. I've seen too many inquiries by reporters inviting us to "talk" and thereby invite speculation quotes that are reported as facts.

Orion · 10-31-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

Let's let the "reporters" research the facts and not let this forum be an easy source for them to pickup idle chatter which may or not be true.

No criticism of anyone intended. I've seen too many inquiries by reporters inviting us to "talk" and thereby invite speculation quotes that are reported as facts.

This IS a forum, and the purpose of a forum is for discussion. If a reporter uses speculation from a forum for a story, then he/she is no reporter.

dmjr · 10-31-2006, 10:34 PM

Just read the Concord Monitor online. They mentioned something about looking the safety records. Has the Mount had any mishaps that could reported?

secondcurve · 11-01-2006, 06:36 AM

Pineneedles:

I am pretty sure that a reporter wouldn't take informaton directly from the web site. Rather, they are looking for people who might have been involved in the incident to intreview as potential sources of information.

jrc · 11-01-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dmjr

Just read the Concord Monitor online. They mentioned something about looking the safety records. Has the Mount had any mishaps that could reported?

Let me start by saying I don't know what happened, this all conjecture. But safety means a lot of things. It refers to maintanance on the vessel and its systems, and it refers to training of the operational crew of the vessel. But it also refers to the hospitality people and their training. Remember a lot of bartenders and bar owners have been sued because someone they served had an accident.

10-31-2006, 03:30 PM	#2
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cow Island Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	Wind could be a factor? Looking at the bow configuration, if the Mount was making a turn and it was still very windy that night, the wind could pocket in that space between the upper and lower decks ahead of that bulkhead, and create a gust which could catch someone off guard as it went through the turn. Winds were still around 15-20 mph at that time. Maybe a costume which could catch the wind as well?

10-31-2006, 05:11 PM	#4
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith, NH Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,203 Thanked 675 Times in 178 Posts	NH Fish & Game News Release The NH Fish and Game Dept. issued the following news release this afternoon: ================================================== ===== News from the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department October 31, 2006 Phone: (603) 271-3211 Email: info@wildlife.state.nh.us For information and online licenses, visit http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us * * * * * * * CONTACT: Capt. Martin Garabedian: (603) 271-3361 Liza Poinier: (603) 271-3211 October 31, 2006 SEARCH FOR HOOKSETT MAN CONTINUES ON LAKE WINNIPESAUKEE CONCORD, N.H. -- Search operations continued today for the recovery of James Sylvestre, age 45, of Hooksett, New Hampshire, who is presumed drowned after falling overboard from the M/S Mount Washington excursion ship on Saturday night, October 28, 2006, on Lake Winnipesaukee. Search efforts were hampered on Sunday and Monday due to the high winds and rough water conditions. Tuesday, New Hampshire Fish and Game and N.H. Marine Patrol officers were joined in the search effort by New Hampshire and Connecticut State Police. The N.H. State Police helicopter conducted a search of the lake and shoreline in the area of Rattlesnake Island. Connecticut State Police are using a specialized underwater side-scan sonar unit capable of searching large areas of open water. The search area is concentrated in the area of Welch and Rattlesnake islands, with water depths of 50 to 100 feet. The search will continue until dark, and if necessary, will resume on Wednesday morning, November 1. N.H. Marine Patrol is conducting an investigation into the incident. Lt. James Goss of the N.H. Fish and Game Department is conducting the recovery effort. No further information is available at this time. -###- -- Copyright 2006 New Hampshire Fish and Game Department, 11 Hazen Drive, Concord, NH 03301. Comments or questions concerning this list should be directed to lpoinier@wildlife.state.nh.us. __________________ DRH

10-31-2006, 08:17 PM	#5
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 668 Times in 367 Posts	News People Let's let the "reporters" research the facts and not let this forum be an easy source for them to pickup idle chatter which may or not be true. No criticism of anyone intended. I've seen too many inquiries by reporters inviting us to "talk" and thereby invite speculation quotes that are reported as facts.

10-31-2006, 02:49 PM	#1
dmjr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 274 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Just got back from EM Heath Hardware and saw the Mount is back in the winter dock. It amazes that me that someone could fall over the lower rail unless they loss there footing.

10-31-2006, 10:34 PM	#7
dmjr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 274 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Just read the Concord Monitor online. They mentioned something about looking the safety records. Has the Mount had any mishaps that could reported?

11-01-2006, 06:36 AM	#8
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,117 Thanks: 1,329 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Pineneedles: I am pretty sure that a reporter wouldn't take informaton directly from the web site. Rather, they are looking for people who might have been involved in the incident to intreview as potential sources of information.