Apartment Building Proposed at the Weirs Rotary

[ITD]

Where’s the parking?

[8gv]

Originally Posted by ITD

Where’s the parking?

Maybe it's underneath the building on the first floor.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by ITD

Where’s the parking?

The lot has a good size "dog leg" that goes up the hill behind the Gulbicki property and the telephone building. The city code is 1.5 parking spaces per unit and it looks like they are proposing 41 total spaces. Sorry for the picture quality.

[John Mercier]

If they didn't suspect they would have enough parking, they would have asked for a variance.
But the city caving? I seem to remember proposed housing for people that would be too poor to own a vehicle being rejected due to parking spaces provided.

Usually they try to ''tone down'' the height - which is what created the roof effect at Barton's, and some of what happened at Lookout. They have also loved seeing renderings with expensive brick, stone, and wood cedar shake exteriors with expensive fir beams. Hopefully they are getting over that and can accept the new architectural direction. After all, they are the ones that are promoting the area as a party palace.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

The lot has a good size "dog leg" that goes up the hill behind the Gulbicki property and the telephone building. The city code is 1.5 parking spaces per unit and it looks like they are proposing 41 total spaces. Sorry for the picture quality.

So where can you buy a half car to fit that half space?

[Descant]

Originally Posted by Biggd

So where can you buy a half car to fit that half space?

Not just Laconia. Zoning reg's all over the place are short of parking for residential complexes. They assume one car per unit and some shared guest parking. In reality, it's more like two cars per unit and 1/2 car for the 30 something kid who still lives at home. No room for any guests or staffing/maintenance folks to park. On the other hand, there is ample parking required for big box stores so they fill it up with "seasonal" merchandise, not customer cars.

[sky's]

i love the town of Sandwhich more and more.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by Descant

Not just Laconia. Zoning reg's all over the place are short of parking for residential complexes. They assume one car per unit and some shared guest parking. In reality, it's more like two cars per unit and 1/2 car for the 30 something kid who still lives at home. No room for any guests or staffing/maintenance folks to park. On the other hand, there is ample parking required for big box stores so they fill it up with "seasonal" merchandise, not customer cars.

Actually a marketing thing that doesn't really work as well as they would hope.
When I was at Tilton, I would use the side apron that was to hold overstock instead of using the parking lot.

Didn't have to bring a hose across the pavement, and could set up the side apron like a small park to give people ideas for the backyard.

[Woodsy]

5 stories is a bit large and definitely out of character for the neighborhood. A 3 story building would be a nice addition. However, I suspect a bait and switch to condos!


Woodsy

[John Mercier]

Not really that much different.
In other cities throughout the world, you can buy your apartment. Pretty much making it what we call a condo.

And even some condos are LTR.

It is really more a difference on the financial side.
The developer can reacquire the capital expense more quickly, and the investor can either inhabit or lease out the condo - not having to own the whole project.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Not really that much different.
In other cities throughout the world, you can buy your apartment. Pretty much making it what we call a condo.

And even some condos are LTR.

It is really more a difference on the financial side.
The developer can reacquire the capital expense more quickly, and the investor can either inhabit or lease out the condo - not having to own the whole project.

This is not "other cities of the world"... this is Laconia. There is a great need for apartment space. There isn't a huge need for yet even more expensive condominium space. There is also an obviously much lower financial burden to rent an apartment. Everything should not be about the developer! The City should have a balanced approach to development, that seem to have forgotten. If they approve this monstrosity for 5 floors, I hope they make the developer pay for a new ladder truck for the Weirs!

Woodsy

[lakewinnie]

Why go through all of the trouble and expense of constructing a new apartment complex?

Just permanently park The Dive there.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

This is not "other cities of the world"... this is Laconia. There is a great need for apartment space. There isn't a huge need for yet even more expensive condominium space. There is also an obviously much lower financial burden to rent an apartment. Everything should not be about the developer! The City should have a balanced approach to development, that seem to have forgotten. If they approve this monstrosity for 5 floors, I hope they make the developer pay for a new ladder truck for the Weirs!

Woodsy

You seem to miss the point. If all the units are sold as Condos, and the owner chooses instead to lease it as an apartment... the same result happens.
Lots of condos in the area are actually rentals.

The owner of the condo could not afford to purchase the entire building, and the developer may want to sell part of it to someone else... the condo option is the easiest method to do so.

The City of Laconia is not worried about middle class housing... if so Legacy would be in the initial construction stages as we speak.