Will Your Next Car Be an Old One?

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

Can the power grid handle all the electric vehicles we buy in the next few years?

Yes.

The grid is well-equipped to supply energy to EVs at current adoption levels. Over 2.7 million plug-in hybrid and full battery-electric cars and light trucks were sold in the United States by the end of 2021, with the majority of those still on the road.

Begin a thread with an opinion ? LINK

California uses a billion gallons of gas per month. I'm sure someone smarter than me can do the math to figure out how much electricity it will take to replace that much energy but I'm guessing it's a lot. Meanwhile there is no plan or any activity going on in CA right now to expand generation or distribution of power at that scale and even a ramp up means start now since a power plant takes a decade to get built. They are already not able to keep the lights on dependably. The options are the ones pushing this in government are morons or the real plan is to eliminate private cars.


Oh, and they want to ban gas cooking and heating too.

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by jbolty

California uses a billion gallons of gas per month. I'm sure someone smarter than me can do the math to figure out how much electricity it will take to replace that much energy but I'm guessing it's a lot. Meanwhile there is no plan or any activity going on in CA right now to expand generation or distribution of power at that scale and even a ramp up means start now since a power plant takes a decade to get built. They are already not able to keep the lights on dependably. The options are the ones pushing this in government are morons or the real plan is to eliminate private cars.


Oh, and they want to ban gas cooking and heating too.

San Francisco has banned gas appliances from all new construction. I will never live with an electric kitchen.

Gas autos will be banned in 2035. Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) warns CA residents about electric shut-offs during high winds and overloading the grid during high A/C demands.

When Gavin Newsom comes campaigning in New Hampshire with promises of making all states like Calicornucopia, carefully parse every syllable. The morons have plans not well thought out.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by jbolty

Meanwhile there is no plan or any activity going on in CA right now to expand generation or distribution of power at that scale and even a ramp up means start now since a power plant takes a decade to get built.

This is from March---a $3 billion before the latest announcements
https://www.edison.com/home/innovati...ia-edison.html

And this more recent site from Edison has a link to the plan for 2045 needs
https://www.edison.com/home/innovati...ia-edison.html

Maybe now you want to move the goalposts and tell us the utilities won't deliver on the plans you said did not exist?

[LikeLakes]

FlyingScot, looks like you posted the same link twice, maybe you can add the one you meant to send.

There are 2 separate infrastructures that need to be updated. One is the electric grid, the other is the natural gas delivery pipelines. I know the comments above were California centric, but they make a good point that applies elsewhere. We can't power more cars, more ductless split HVAC systems, and accommodate more renewable energy sources without upgrading the grid. We know there is a problem in CA. We know there is a problem in TX. The truth is the problem is country wide. NG as well, because you can't bring more power plants on line if you can't fuel them, the winter load on the northeast natural gas delivery pipelines is pretty close to 100% of capacity.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Once you've tried electric, you really can't go back to slower, rougher, noisier. Great new EVs available from Ford, VW, Nissan, Kia, Chevy; and they're more affordable than most folks think, especially after incentives and gas savings

If they're so good, why must taxpayers subsidize them?

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

Can the power grid handle all the electric vehicles we buy in the next few years?

Yes.

The grid is well-equipped to supply energy to EVs at current adoption levels. Over 2.7 million plug-in hybrid and full battery-electric cars and light trucks were sold in the United States by the end of 2021, with the majority of those still on the road. Begin a thread with an opinion ? LINK

Did you click on my link below that shows brand-new California charging stations are being robbed of every charging cable?

So far, their roofs haven't been carried away.