Midnight Express

steve-on-mark · 06-02-2021, 04:18 PM

Anyone else see the Midnight Express at the Glendale docks?? What a beautiful boat!!

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codeman671 · 06-02-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by steve-on-mark

Anyone else see the Midnight Express at the Glendale docks?? What a beautiful boat!!

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Pics or it didn’t happen!

I love the brand. We chartered a 37’ in the BVI last year.

www.midnightsunboatcharters.com

steve-on-mark · 06-02-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Pics or it didn’t happen!

I love the brand. We chartered a 37’ in the BVI last year.

www.midnightsunboatcharters.com

K was in a rush to go flower shopping, otherwise i would have been all over that. I did see quad 400s...

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Descant · 06-02-2021, 09:08 PM

I agree with Codeman. Where are the pix?

steve-on-mark · 06-02-2021, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant

I agree with Codeman. Where are the pix?

Jesus...re-read!

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Reilly · 06-03-2021, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Pics or it didn’t happen!

I love the brand. We chartered a 37’ in the BVI last year.

www.midnightsunboatcharters.com

the one at glendale is a 37 good friend of mine just got here from florida for the summer

Descant · 06-03-2021, 08:38 AM

I think Codeman and I were looking for pix of the specific boat in Glendale i.e on Winnipesaukee.

LIforrelaxin · 06-03-2021, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by steve-on-mark

K was in a rush to go flower shopping, otherwise i would have been all over that. I did see quad 400s...

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It sounds like K needs schooling in the art of boat ogling, and how important it is to our disability of Boat-Admiration-itis..........

If I recall correctly the boat is owned by WWE superstar Triple H (Paul Levesque) and has been seen on the lake many times.

steve-on-mark · 06-03-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Descant

I think Codeman and I were looking for pix of the specific boat in Glendale i.e on Winnipesaukee.

I know....pics of horns...boats... he never believes me! ;-)

steve-on-mark · 06-03-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by liforrelaxin

it sounds like k needs schooling in the art of boat ogling, and how important it is to our disability of boat-admiration-itis..........

If i recall correctly the boat is owned by wwe superstar triple h (paul levesque) and has been seen on the lake many times.

k needs schooling in a lot of areas....oops, did i say that out loud??? :-) first time i see it....maybe i need to get out more...

steve-on-mark · 06-03-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Pics or it didn’t happen!

I love the brand. We chartered a 37’ in the BVI last year.

www.midnightsunboatcharters.com

There you go...oh, I'm sorry...wrong " pic or it didn't happen" topic...I'll try to be more timely in the future!

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MeredithMan · 06-03-2021, 03:08 PM

....I have not seen "Midnight Express", but I have seen HHH and his fam in his boat numerous times, as his estate is just a few houses down from me. His boat is actually very modest, given his wealth....a 26' Bryant that is probably 7 or 8 years old.

steve-on-mark · 06-03-2021, 04:36 PM

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....I have not seen "Midnight Express", but I have seen HHH and his fam in his boat numerous times, as his estate is just a few houses down from me. His boat is actually very modest, given his wealth....a 26' Bryant that is probably 7 or 8 years old.

Hmmmm....I wonder if anyone says that about me?? Nah....

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codeman671 · 06-04-2021, 11:29 AM

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Hmmmm....I wonder if anyone says that about me?? Nah....

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With wine, kickin' tunes and heat in the C-Nile you are living large!

steve-on-mark · 06-04-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

With wine, kickin' tunes and heat in the C-Nile you are living large!

I DO turn heads at the Glendale docks, but for all the wrong reasons!

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bigdog · 06-04-2021, 06:53 PM

Speaking of the Glendale docks, does anyone know who owns the
'Aston Martin' convertible parked there ?

I'm thinking the owner is an islander, as I see it parked there frequently.
Sweet ride !

Starting price for these babys' are around $200k, and go up from there. yikes !

Slickcraft · 06-04-2021, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

Speaking of the Glendale docks, does anyone know who owns the
'Aston Martin' convertible parked there ?

I'm thinking the owner is an islander, as I see it parked there frequently.
Sweet ride !

Starting price for these babys' are around $200k, and go up from there. yikes !

Yes an islander, the Ledges at Welch Island.

Alan

Slickcraft · 06-04-2021, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by steve-on-mark

I DO turn heads at the Glendale docks, but for all the wrong reasons!

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Well at least the C-Nile is no longer listing to port.

Alan

steve-on-mark · 06-04-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

Speaking of the Glendale docks, does anyone know who owns the
'Aston Martin' convertible parked there ?

I'm thinking the owner is an islander, as I see it parked there frequently.
Sweet ride !

Starting price for these babys' are around $200k, and go up from there. yikes !

Same gentleman who comes in with the Riva...he's a nice guy , and he likes the C-Nile!

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steve-on-mark · 06-04-2021, 07:25 PM

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Well at least the C-Nile is no longer listing to port.

Alan

It's all about balance...getting water and fuel in the tanks to offset the battery weight...it's a delicate machine!

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bigdog · 06-05-2021, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by steve-on-mark

Same gentleman who comes in with the Riva...he's a nice guy , and he likes the C-Nile!

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Ah 'yes' the Riva, now it all makes sense ! What a nice boat, I had heard
that the boat is made in Italy, and was sent across 'the pond' ! Seen it pull into the docks last year a few times.

I know the man's name now, but will refrain from publishing for his privacy.

steve-on-mark · 06-05-2021, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

Ah 'yes' the Riva, now it all makes sense ! What a nice boat, I had heard
that the boat is made in Italy, and was sent across 'the pond' ! Seen it pull into the docks last year a few times.

I know the man's name now, but will refrain from publishing for his privacy.

We came into the docks at the same time one morning this week... he said " hey, I like your boat". I said " well, it's not a Riva, but it does what I need it to do". I told him about some of the features and he said " well it probably cost as mush as the Riva". I said " close...but not quite as much"! :-)

Descant · 06-06-2021, 04:11 PM

Lots of Italian boats are imported to Fort Lauderdale and then move around the country. Last March, there was a Riva and an Apreeamare in the shop at Hi-Gloss Boat Restorations at the same time/ Riva is part of the Ferretti Group and Apremare was part of the group starting in 2001. Apremare has since left Ferretti as I understand it.

salty dog · 06-07-2021, 11:14 AM

I love Rivas. I guess basically the Italian Chris Craft but possibly a higher end. Lots of movie stars back in the day bought them, in particular, the Aquarama. Some of you may know the story. Ferruccio Lamborghini decided to purchase one in '68 but decided the standard engines weren’t enough for him. As it turns out, many items were not adequate for him. He collaborated with Carlo Riva and had a special one-off Aquarama built with two 4 liter Lambo V12 engines. Riva had his assemblers spend around 3000 hours to reach perfection. Very cool. Here is a quick vid showing a test run after an extensive recent restoration by Dutch Riva. The second link is a lost and found story of the boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LkQbVTWr4g

https://newatlas.com/lamborghini-riva-aquarama/29402/

Senter Cove Guy · 08-09-2021, 07:38 AM

Quads in motion in Wolfeboro Bay last Saturday.

Grant · 08-09-2021, 08:06 AM

4x450?

Wow. How many 450s is enough?

XCR-700 · 08-09-2021, 09:08 AM

We will never know as 4 was all that would fit,,,

camp guy · 08-09-2021, 09:30 AM

One thing for sure...it will get you up to headway speed fairly quickly.

dickiej · 08-09-2021, 09:40 AM

How many GPH at 2,500 rpm?

Merrymeeting · 08-09-2021, 10:40 AM

I'll bet he gets to that 45 mph limit fairly quickly.

LikeLakes · 08-09-2021, 01:24 PM

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I'll bet he gets to that 45 mph limit fairly quickly.

I hear those are hard to pull start.

Around $60,000 each, so almost a quarter million into it without a boat.

Phantom · 08-09-2021, 07:05 PM

Fish aren't getting away from this baby !!

Steve - this will cut your commute time to the island!!

steve-on-mark · 08-11-2021, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dickiej

How many GPH at 2,500 rpm?

Pretty steep I'll bet...sure it's no stranger to the pumps!

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steve-on-mark · 08-11-2021, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Fish aren't getting away from this baby !!

Steve - this will cut your commute time to the island!!

Sure would, but I don't think it would fit in my MV slip!

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Tuckntruck · 08-11-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dickiej

How many GPH at 2,500 rpm?

Not sure @2500, but .5lb/hr per Hp is a rough estimate. Probably 120-140GPH wide open.

Descant · 08-11-2021, 05:13 PM

How big is this boat? The Midnight Express website gives some numbers for the 43' Open, but it is 12''6" wide. The pictures here look like she fits on a standard trailer, which would be 8''6" wide or need an oversize load towing package/permit.

livefreeordie · 09-04-2021, 01:04 PM

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Pretty steep I'll bet...sure it's no stranger to the pumps!

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That’s a new 39 Nor-tech we were filling up to deliver to the new owner.

steve-on-mark · 09-04-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by livefreeordie

That’s a new 39 Nor-tech we were filling up to deliver to the new owner.

Nice...bet they love it!

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LikeLakes · 09-05-2021, 08:58 AM

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That’s a new 39 Nor-tech we were filling up to deliver to the new owner.

How do you trailer a boat with 10' beam? Do you need a lead vehicle for oversize? Gorgeous boat BTW.

NH.Solar · 09-05-2021, 09:15 AM

It is interesting to me to note that the inside props spin inwards while the outside props spin outwards. The general theory that I've always heard for duals is that you spin inwards to get more transom lift and outwards to get more bow lift. Setting up quads seems to have a whole different theory, but probably no one would know better than NorTech...

TiltonBB · 09-05-2021, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LikeLakes

How do you trailer a boat with 10' beam? Do you need a lead vehicle for oversize? Gorgeous boat BTW.

That would just need Wide Load signs.

Loads exceeding 12 feet wide usually require pilot or escort vehicles.

Loads over 16 feet wide are considered super loads and sometimes require road closures in addition to front and rear escort vehicles and police escorts.

salty dog · 09-05-2021, 11:32 AM

For those who haven't seen this combo yet, here is (probably) the ultimate bowrider/cruiser, the Formula 500. Staggering performance for a boat of this size with the quad V12's. (The gph will make you stagger too!) Will need a thick wallet! I imagine Midnight express and others will follow suit. Here, Cpt. Steve gives the lowdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzU3MTMYu8w

livefreeordie · 09-05-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by salty dog

For those who haven't seen this combo yet, here is (probably) the ultimate bowrider/cruiser, the Formula 500. Staggering performance for a boat of this size with the quad V12's. (The gph will make you stagger too!) Will need a thick wallet! I imagine Midnight express and others will follow suit. Here, Cpt. Steve gives the lowdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzU3MTMYu8w

Those Mercury 600hp V12s are heavy and enormous you will only see them on huge center console and cruisers. Not built for speed. The aluminum block V8 platform with the NA 300R and supercharged 450 will end up as a 550 or 600hp when they max out that new platform.

codeman671 · 09-07-2021, 08:41 AM

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Those Mercury 600hp V12s are heavy and enormous you will only see them on huge center console and cruisers.

Nope...Bennington has already put one on a pontoon!

livefreeordie · 09-11-2021, 07:54 AM

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Nope...Bennington has already put one on a pontoon!

Ya one and it probably tops out at 50MPH. They aren’t meant to go fast and never will. They don’t have tie bar set ups because the lowers are pods. Not safe at high speed.

LikeLakes · 09-12-2021, 08:58 AM

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Ya one and it probably tops out at 50MPH. They aren’t meant to go fast and never will. They don’t have tie bar set ups because the lowers are pods. Not safe at high speed.

Agree, like you said they are meant to move big heavy boats easily with 1 less engine than usual, and the engineering is pretty amazing, I think these will sell like crazy for that purpose.

BroadHopper · 09-12-2021, 09:23 AM

The 454 Magnum puts out 350 HP. But with a lot of weight!
The 2.0 TDI Audi 4 cylinder at stage 1 is also 350HP. With much less weight!
I'm assuming the HP to weight ratio put the smaller engine ahead!
Size does not matter but the amount of useful HP does!

LikeLakes · 09-12-2021, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The 454 Magnum puts out 350 HP. But with a lot of weight!
The 2.0 TDI Audi 4 cylinder at stage 1 is also 350HP. With much less weight!
I'm assuming the HP to weight ratio put the smaller engine ahead!
Size does not matter but the amount of useful HP does!

I'd like to see the HP/Torque curves on both those engines. You're right useful HP matters, but where it is available also matters.

06-02-2021, 04:18 PM	#1
steve-on-mark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Epping, NH / Mark Island Posts: 1,863 Thanks: 187 Thanked 733 Times in 426 Posts	Midnight Express Anyone else see the Midnight Express at the Glendale docks?? What a beautiful boat!! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app __________________ ....keeping " urban decay " out of photos for nearly 3 years!

06-02-2021, 09:08 PM	#4
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,364 Thanks: 1,351 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,056 Posts	Pix? I agree with Codeman. Where are the pix?

06-03-2021, 08:38 AM	#7
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,364 Thanks: 1,351 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,056 Posts	Glendale I think Codeman and I were looking for pix of the specific boat in Glendale i.e on Winnipesaukee.

06-03-2021, 03:08 PM	#12
MeredithMan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bedford, NH; Meredith, NH Posts: 952 Thanks: 263 Thanked 812 Times in 331 Posts	I don't think that it is Triple H's... ....I have not seen "Midnight Express", but I have seen HHH and his fam in his boat numerous times, as his estate is just a few houses down from me. His boat is actually very modest, given his wealth....a 26' Bryant that is probably 7 or 8 years old.

06-06-2021, 04:11 PM	#23
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,364 Thanks: 1,351 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,056 Posts	Italian boats Lots of Italian boats are imported to Fort Lauderdale and then move around the country. Last March, there was a Riva and an Apreeamare in the shop at Hi-Gloss Boat Restorations at the same time/ Riva is part of the Ferretti Group and Apremare was part of the group starting in 2001. Apremare has since left Ferretti as I understand it.

06-04-2021, 06:53 PM	#16
bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 342 Thanked 119 Times in 96 Posts	Speaking of the Glendale docks, does anyone know who owns the 'Aston Martin' convertible parked there ? I'm thinking the owner is an islander, as I see it parked there frequently. Sweet ride ! Starting price for these babys' are around $200k, and go up from there. yikes !

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,364 Thanks: 1,351 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,056 Posts	Size? How big is this boat? The Midnight Express website gives some numbers for the 43' Open, but it is 12''6" wide. The pictures here look like she fits on a standard trailer, which would be 8''6" wide or need an oversize load towing package/permit.

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NH.Solar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Jackson Pond, New Hampton Posts: 238 Thanks: 47 Thanked 142 Times in 79 Posts	It is interesting to me to note that the inside props spin inwards while the outside props spin outwards. The general theory that I've always heard for duals is that you spin inwards to get more transom lift and outwards to get more bow lift. Setting up quads seems to have a whole different theory, but probably no one would know better than NorTech... __________________ Peter NH Solar

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