Gun Transport, Shooting Ranges

[Slickcraft]

Yes the indoor range in Belmont.

Earmuffs rather than plugs. The person in the lane next to you may be shooting an AR-15. And real shooting glasses.



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[mhtranger]

I use a similar case in my truck for those places that don’t allow carry in stores. As far as cases to transport I have a few soft bags and a couple of hard cases (bought at harbor freight) that work well. Hearing protection I use Surefire ear plugs, work better for me as muffs usually get in my way shooting a rifle. The key is proper installation of said ear plugs, I work in the airline industry and use foam ear plugs at work and will lower the decibels of jet engines dramatically if used correctly.
For ranges I would recommend White Birch Armory but a little far from Moultonborough. Outdoor I haven’t been able to find anywhere.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Slickcraft

Yes the indoor range in Belmont.

Earmuffs rather than plugs. The person in the lane next to you may be shooting an AR-15. And real shooting glasses.


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Question: while looking at muffs and plugs today, I noticed the muffs ranged from 21-27 decibel reduction while the plugs I saw ranged from 26-32.

Wouldn't the plugs be better (assuming they're inserted properly—almost impossible to get muffs wrong)?

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[Slickcraft]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Question: while looking at muffs and plugs today, I noticed the muffs ranged from 21-27 decibel reduction while the plugs I saw ranged from 26-32.

Wouldn't the plugs be better (assuming they're inserted properly—almost impossible to get muffs wrong)?

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These muffs are 30 db and stay in place.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-PELTOR-O...10A/1002342132

These plugs are 29 db, essentially the same. However they are difficult to keep properly in place.
https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tactica...X9XQTNM4K3TTQY
You would need plugs molded for your ears to insure continued proper fit.

Just my experience.

Alan

[Bigstan]

You really need to know what you'd be shooting, and as mentioned what others may shoot around you.

.223 / 308 / 30-06 are all in the 150-160-ish dba range. That Lowes model is rated as protection up to 105. So I would think ok for a .22 type setup but nothing past that.

I have never seen a passive pair of muffs match a pair of electronic - but maybe they exist. Once I went electronic I donated all my passives to the range.

I still vote for plugs + muff combos. Two good things that go better together....

[codeman671]

I like my electronic muffs. I would not use earplugs, especially on an indoor range. Outside, shooting by yourself you'd probably be fine.

[Slickcraft]

Agree with Stan, plugs plus muffs are good for indoor. Probably in the 40 db NRR range.

I have had several pair of electronic muffs for outside sporting clays. The big advantage is that you can hear normal conversation. Indoor, if you have muffs plus plugs that advantage is mostly lost. The basic noise reduction ratings of electronic muffs, however are no better that passive muffs.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Bigstan

You really need to know what you'd be shooting, and as mentioned what others may shoot around you.

.223 / 308 / 30-06 are all in the 150-160-ish dba range. That Lowes model is rated as protection up to 105. So I would think ok for a .22 type setup but nothing past that.

I have never seen a passive pair of muffs match a pair of electronic - but maybe they exist. Once I went electronic I donated all my passives to the range.

I still vote for plugs + muff combos. Two good things that go better together....

I bought a Ruger 10/22 and Taurus TX22, both .22, but obviously I can't control what others will be shooting.

I'm a sweaty dude and don't like things on my head if I can help it, especially double things (hat and muffs, muffs and glasses, etc.), but I'll clearly do what I need to.

So, I'm hearing what might be best for me would be both a good set of plugs (for outdoors/light indoors) that would be compatible with muffs, and a set of muffs that could be used in conjunction with the plugs?

If so, recommendations? Passive or active muffs? Foam plugs vs. Surefire?

Thoughts on these? https://www.amazon.com/Walkers-Razor...222&th=1&psc=1

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[Bigstan]

I have a couple pairs of those slim Walkers, I like the full-size better but those are ok too, especially for .22. Keep a multi-pack of batteries in the range bag cause you will forget and leave them turned on once or twice.

Try a few pairs of glasses - sweat & muffs isn't a problem as much as sweat & glasses - most fog up easily. I bought a $40 pair from SIG that works great, the $15 generic / Bass Pro type leave me fogged up constantly.

Unsolicited advice - if not bought already load up on BX-25 / 25 round Ruger magazines. Someone else mentioned White Birch armory - they always seem to have them (they like everything else are hard to find these days). I would go there and buy 6x of them while you check out their range, you need them whether you know it now or not. Loading 10 round rotaries gets tiresome quick.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Bigstan

I have a couple pairs of those slim Walkers, I like the full-size better but those are ok too, especially for .22. Keep a multi-pack of batteries in the range bag cause you will forget and leave them turned on once or twice.

Try a few pairs of glasses - sweat & muffs isn't a problem as much as sweat & glasses - most fog up easily. I bought a $40 pair from SIG that works great, the $15 generic / Bass Pro type leave me fogged up constantly.

Unsolicited advice - if not bought already load up on BX-25 / 25 round Ruger magazines. Someone else mentioned White Birch armory - they always seem to have them (they like everything else are hard to find these days). I would go there and buy 6x of them while you check out their range, you need them whether you know it now or not. Loading 10 round rotaries gets tiresome quick.

Thanks for the tip.

Would those muffs work well with the plugs posted above? Or would it defeat the purpose of having the electronics?

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[Bigstan]

Never seen a pair of plugs that didn't work when inserted properly. Also never seen a pair that would interfere with a pair of earmuffs. I don't think an incompatibility is possible there.

With .22 you can get away with one or the other, especially if you are alone / semi-alone on an outdoor range. Try both, I think you'll decide on the muffs or a combo over just plugs.

I err on the side of caution and always do both as I like to hear and want to keep on doing it.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Thanks for the tip.

Would those muffs work well with the plugs posted above? Or would it defeat the purpose of having the electronics?

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I believe these are the ones I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight...s%2C211&sr=8-6

Ear plugs and muffs together is overkill. The benefit of the electronic muffs is that when not shooting you can turn the volume up and have conversations without having to take them off.

Stay with Ruger mags for the 10/22. The BX-25 is a great mag. Buy a speed loader to help load faster, otherwise it can get a bit monotonous.

[Bigstan]

Originally Posted by codeman671

Ear plugs and muffs together is overkill. The benefit of the electronic muffs is that when not shooting you can turn the volume up and have conversations without having to take them off.

Very true - but the benefit is also (in my case) Bluetooth. It's nice to be able to stream - and yes you can still hear it with plugs in as well, it's kind of a background noise thing.

Agree in this case it's overkill for .22, but using both absolutely helps me when shooting anything 30 cal+. Or when situated next to one of the many newbs out there who have an AR platform and think it's a race to unload 30 round mags as quick as they can.

[thinkxingu]

Ok, I ordered some Surefire EP10s and the Walker thins and will try both out and see how it goes.

Thanks, all!

[winni83]

Think
Look at the Winnipesaukee Sportsmen’s Club website. They offer some basic courses. Look under Education on the home page.


https://winnisportsmensclub.org/

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by winni83

Think

Look at the Winnipesaukee Sportsmen’s Club website. They offer some basic courses. Look under Education on the home page.

https://winnisportsmensclub.org/

Thank you kindly!

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[ApS]

Originally Posted by Slickcraft

Yes the indoor range in Belmont. Earmuffs rather than plugs. The person in the lane next to you may be shooting an AR-15.
And real shooting glasses.

A colleague had a spent 9mm cartridge case get lodged behind his regular glasses. Yes, the case is hot and can leave a burn.


This is the same unlucky colleage who later had a large wasp fly into the same spot!

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