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The roosters were a funny and then welcomed prank from my great friend, Donald. Don raises pigs and chickens on the mainland. I was jokingly complaining about the noise and he just moved two rosters on Farm Island. They are now my pets and busy eating the ticks. We welcome that. Since I gave up drinking too I don't much mind the early wake up and frankly because Camp Belknap has wasted so much of my time I need to wake up at 4:45 am. I have changed 57 windows in my camp so far because unsupervised Camp Belknap kids shooting up my windows and antiques with 22 rifles.
Don and I take turns sueing Camp Belknap, documenting their lies, exploitation of the neighborhood, the land and the lake. For years Camp Belknap has had an insufficient septic system draining right into the watershed. In the town documents there is a letter from Winnie Shores substantiating this and the horrific smell and safety issues. A few years ago the sewage system was way over capacity and Seth Kassel just had the lagoon breached and poured thousands of gallons of raw sewage right into the watershed. We have photos. Currently the camp is attempting another massive expansion without proper approval. The expansion is under appeal and has a stay order. As always the camp has acted above the law and ignored a court ordered stay with the honorable superior court. If anyone interested in the bay, the lake and the area I beg you to align with my great friend Don, my fantastic partner Cody and I to not close but to "contain" Camp Belknap. With regards to all these lawsuits triggered by Camp Belknap please understand that the camp really doesn't sue me but sues your town. In the past year between their selfish attempt to take over Farm Island and now this massive expansion your town has been paying several lawyers. We speculate this might be heading toward 100k of your money. I suggest you ask your town. God knows they wasted more than 100k of my money. As you should be aware Camp Belknap appealed our acquisition of Farm Island. As of this writing the bogus and now failed actions of Camp Belknap are now dead and Cody and I are ready to save the 1906 Winchester home and begin to enjoy the island with all of the Owen family and friends. Please visit Owen Outdoors to see what we are up to. As for the Roosters they will return to the mainland for the winter in Don's chicken coop. Going forward we are discussing Christmas trees and my maple syrup equipment is already on the island. So if it's tree farming or rooster farming please feel free to critique Randy and Cody for "farming" on "farm island". |
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C'mon ... please. This is outright BS. Just accept your 'win' and start ruining the island, alright? Unbelievable.
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Randy could you gloat just a little more? If this is the way you do business good luck to you.
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https://owens-marine.pissedconsumer.com/review.html
Strange, this website says business closed.....but yet there’s a building that’s been going up almost forever down in Hooksett that has Owens signature boat scrap heap outside. Maybe Farm Island will the new home of the marine business. |
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I call shenanigans. I attended Camp Belknap for years. No kid with a .22 is ever unsupervised. The rifle range is nowhere near the water, either.
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I second the quote, CB 1952 to 1959 rifle range didn't face that direction and safety/security was tight. Looked at Owens Outdoors videos and those bullet holes in the window appeared to be of a larger caliber weapon. It didn't happen this year because CB was closed for the Summer because of Covid-19.
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Exactly. I was there 70 to 77, brother was there ~75 to ~80s, and both sons attended well into 2000s. NO opportunity for any unsafe rifle handling. None. Pure BS. And, yes, Camp was closed this year due to pandemic.
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Ha. I can tell you this. There were no kids in the camp last year. The year before that the pistol range at the camp was closed as it was decided improvements were needed. I believe it was rebuilt this fall. I would think a rational man would realize that for the camp to operate a pistol range there is a fair amount of liability associated with kids shooting. That in mind do you seriously think the operators of the camp allowed kids to check guns out, take them in canoes and paddle to your island to shoot out your windows? Give me break. That is ridiculous.............
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I'm actually surprised they are kids going to camp being exposed to any kind of firearms. I thought these camps are more interested now in social engineering, and guns ain't part of that equation.
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Actually, it's the reverse. Before the NRA was primarily a political organization, its focus was on supporting sportsmen and education for kids. I remember NRA-sponsored programs fondly from when I was a camper. Whatever you might think about the NRA today, it's pretty clear that their focus is now much closer to social (political) engineering than it was decades ago. The camps aren't all that much different
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![]() Four years of woolen NRA patches were also stitched onto my uniform jacket. Let's see, am I leaving one out? Pro-Marksman, Marksman, Sharpshooter, Expert. ![]() Anyway, the same rifle used at summer camp was the same caliber and manufacturer which I qualified with at U. S. Navy boot camp—Great Lakes, Illinois: ![]() ![]() In Florida, High School students transported rifles and shotguns in their vehicles in afternoon combat against the feral hogs that were ruining Clay County cropland. But this was The South. ![]() Up north, debate was burgeoning as to what bathroom to use! ![]() |
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Another patch was MARKSMAN 1st. CL, and the Expert full name was EXPERT RIFLEMAN. All five 3" diameter patches also said 50 FT in the center of the patch so it read 50 FT with two crossed rifles in the center, and NAT'L RIFLE ASS'N and AWARD.
MARKSMAN, PRO-MARKSMAN, MARKSMAN 1st CL., SHARPSHOOTER, and EXPERT RIFLEMAN were the full set and made in varying colors. For $29.99, shipping included, you can buy a set of all five patches in "pre owned vintage" condition from someone in Asheville, NC on ebay.
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I went to a dude ranch in WY a few years ago that advertised, among other things, a rifle range. I asked an d they pointed. WShen I got there, arifle and a box of ammo was there. Help yourself. Hmmm. First exposure was to BB guns was at Camp Belknap. At an older age, .22 caliber. Highly structured safety protocols. Got a Marksman Ribbon in the Navy (.45 caliber) although we learned safety protocols on many different guns. As a kid, many schools had riflery clubs and Jr. ROTC. Boy Scouts had parallel programs. And most kids learned hunter safety. This BS about no guns is pretty recent and only comes from ignorance and inexperience. Last year, for Father's Day, my son and I went to a shooting event with automatic rifles, 12,000 rounds, $20 a turn, as a fund raiser. Hundreds of participants. I'm not a gun nut, or an anti-gun freak, it's a sport, like many others. Probably safer than many others, but unfortunately, subject to misguided PR in recent times. |
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Anything said in my videos regarding the theft and damages on farm island was directly from the Winchester family who owned it since 1905. I spoke with them at length after the closing of the property. I was told many of the issues of damages/theft happened after they subdivided the property and sold to Camp Belknap in 2010. Whether this was happening from camp goers or other trespassers I do not know. The bullet holes many have said it fits the description of what the camp uses. I do not care either way and simply want the property to no longer be vandalized. There is animals and pets on the island now and we do not want anyone to get hurt. If you had bullet holes on your property you would be just as concerned. There were around 53 window panels replaced this year and we experienced 1 new window being vandalized. A rock was thrown into the house during the week when we were not present. A trail camera did catch 3 teenagers roaming the property that week, but did not cover the angle of the damage taking place. I do have viewers in NH (.02%), but majority are spread across the world. If future damages take place I will be considering this very possibility, but as I stated above all damages of the property happened before we owned it.
I also agree very much with the comments regarding the roosters. It is a tough sell to be upset at animal noise when you moved near an island called Farm Island. We do plan on having more animals on the island, but they will not be as noisy. ![]() |
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Bemused to say the least. Though reasonable thought is apparent accuracy is compromised at best. So let me state the facts:
Owen Marine, LLC is in its new building in Hooksett Covid-19 delayed final bank lending, slowing construction and now my bank has restarted lending the building is up and running. I am proud to report I built the new building myself with my employees and a fantastic group of subcontractors. Evinrude is changing their outboards as we know them and I suggest you google “Evinrude give up the ghost” We remain a full line Evinrude dealer and will continue monitoring the future with ghost Owen Marine, LLC just engaged with Honda Marine and will sell Honda full line Owen Marine, LLC and Farm Island will have no connection other than our own personal race boats, fishing boats, ATVS, hovercraft and snowmobiles. We have no intention of ruining Farm Island. Farm Island will be the Owen compound for my children, my fantastic partner Cody Owen, his children (when he gets that all going on) and perhaps many future generations. Hell the Winchester ran with it from 1905 till 2020. Hopefully the Owen family can enjoy this too. Please watch Owen Outdoors to keep you updated with our fun The 1906 six bedroom Winchester cottage will be restored with limited updates to protect the 1906 “feel”. (but yes just maybe a flush toilet) Tension between the owners of Farm Island and Camp Belknap began long before the Owen family purchased Farm Island Both the Winchester family and the Owen family have been lied to and exploited by Camp Belknap and especially Seth Kassels The mainland families too are lied to and exploited by Camp Belknap as well Information of camp mischief around Farm Island while the Winchester family owned the island is supported with direct information from former camp counselors and disgruntled former employees. Camp counsellors did break into the camp with the young campers and ignored the private property signage. All damage to the camp occurred prior to the Owen family acquisition to of Farm Island The Owen family has cameras monitoring everything that is going on around the camp and on the rest island Seth Kassels does lie continually and has covered up huge issues of direct lake pollution and medical issues with the campers Under the directions of Seth Kassels the camp cut a lagoon with an excavator and discharged thousands of gallons of raw sewage into the lake watershed and ultimately into the lake (we have the pictures) Seth Kassels designed and used a illegal sewage transfer/storage system and it discharge thousand of gallons of raw sewage in a different incident This triggered huge algae blooms and illnesses with the campers The sewage discharge went right through the Winnie Shores as supported with the winnie shores letter in town records As abutters we have confirmed the use of recreational drugs by the councilors Seth Kassels refuses to have the counselors drug tested and we feel this issue and guns is a poor risk The Camp has a superior court certiorari order not to proceed with construction on the mainland and has ignored it The camp has lied to the abutters and stated it built structures in 1960 to perfect a lie of a grandfathered action when it didn’t even own the property until 13 years later. Many other Tuftonboro town records with Camp Belknap are riddled with lies. On January 6th the Camp will answer to the Honorable Superior Court Judge Amy L. Ignatius as to why they ignored her certiorari order and once again acted above the law. The actions of engaging in full construction while ignoring a court ordered stay are likely to trigger a charge of contempt and require conservation land to be restored to its original undisturbed status. Please understand it is not my wish to shut down Camp Belknap but to contain it reasonably. The Camp is expanding and increasing a non conforming use with excessive boats, noise and pollution. We are perfectly willing to accept the existing non conforming use but no expansion. I do think Camp Belknap, our neighborhood and the campers themselves greatest disservice is with its current director Seth Kassels. I had direct business interaction with the prior camp director Mr. Gene Clark. Gene was a perfect gentleman and completed his part of every aspect of our contractual agreement flawlessly. Seth Kassels is a pathological liar. |
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So here is my question.... Will the Roosters return to Farm Island next summer....
Although I am sure they didn't have many fans.... it was a nice surprise to hear them one morning.... and then actually be able to see them running around on the island.
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Hoping not. A touch irritating................
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Hey Randy, is there a TimberKing-1600 portable saw mill coming to Farm Island in the Spring-2021 to slice up some of the many tall pine trees into usable lumber?
Maybe use it for building that Farm Island fence, an umpteen foot long white picket fence, 18"-high, dividing Farm Island into a "Good fences make good neighbors." type of an island. For about $18/gal, Walmart has excellent Glidden exterior flat white paint that lasts fifteen years when painted over an exterior primer. Using it on a fence made with green lumber seems just perfect for that olde rustic Farm Island look. Here in NH-2021 you can easily find a real NH painter for just $7.25/hour that will paint it like it was his/her own fence!
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Oh, there is at least one or two roosters still there... every morning at 5am sharp.
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Please provide a link, googling such gives to many unrelated results.
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