Lake Winni Wake fest location scouting

lakewinnie · 07-13-2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Winni Wake fest

Hi everyone,

I have been speaking with a lot of the marinas and people around winnipesaukee and we are looking for the future site of the Lake Winni Wake fest! Winnipesaukee and the New Hampshire region does not have a wakeboarding or wakesurfing festival. Whether it is in the form of a general learn to ride festival or an actual competition stop on the WWA lineup, we want to bring everyone together. Wake boarding and wakesurfing are real sports now and we want to give everyone something to look forward to. Much like all the other sports out there we want a stop in our state/region as well.

My colleagues and I would like to reach out for some assistance. We are scouting locations for the future site of the Lake Winni Wake Fest. We are looking for spots along winnipesaukee and the surrounding areas that include the following: 1. A place with public access or could be arranged public access 2. An area that can accommodate 500 plus event onlookers/ participants 3. A location that has a stretch of calmer waters for event riders.

We have been researching on our own and working with the locals to find an accommodating place to hold this event and have a few places in mind. However, it is also possible that we might not find the right situation along the outer coastline of the lake to have the event. There are regulations/restrictions to consider and agreements to be made. In this case, we want to know the spots on the interior of the lake with the calmest waters where we could link up a few long chains of boats and hold the event afloat. This has been done in other states and we might have to give it a try if it is our last option.

But before we do that, anyone that wants to contribute, please do. This is your chance to feed us information and ideas on what you want for a local/regional wake sports festival. Our main goal in this discussion is location, location, location. So, please provide us what you can and let us bring everyone together!

- Lake Winni Wake Fest

Try Squam. I'm sure the folks there would welcome your little endeavor.

Biggd · 07-13-2020, 08:42 AM

Looks like this was the wrong place for him to ask for advice on this subject.

Lake Winni Wake fest · 07-13-2020, 03:44 PM

Well, I think you guys should band together and make the boat races happen again. I’ll support the races if you support some wakeboarding and surfing. Maybe it could be a trifecta and also include the sea planes. AQUA FEST. The reality is that Winni is a big lake. If you don’t like big wakes, move to a smaller lake. If you don’t like noise move further north. Urban sprawl. It happens.

On a Lake this big I’d recommend only having a boat over 20ft. It’s a large lake and it’s where the large boats belong. 30ft cuddy cabin boats, 40 ft yachts, 23 foot wake/surf boats, the mount Washington.

In reality (to the trolls) if you are that concerned you should have a lift style dock. It gets your boat up above of the water.

AttentiontoDetail · 07-13-2020, 03:53 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Scott Spradling
scott@spradlinggroup.com / 603-724-8092
July 7, 2020

NH LEGISLATIVE STUDY CONCLUDES EDUCATION KEY TO BOAT SAFETY ON NEW HAMPSHIRE LAKES

Important Guidelines for Boaters as NH Approaches the Height of Boating Season

CONCORD - A New Hampshire legislative study commission studying the impacts of so-called “wake boats” issued its final report last week, recommending further educational efforts for boaters on topics of boating safely and aquatic invasive species prevention (“AIS)”, as well as safety legislation aimed at protecting people who wakesurf. “Wake boat” is a slang term used for boats in the towboat segment of the marine industry, known for waterskiing, wakesurfing, wakeboarding and other towed watersports. The study commission was established during the 2019 session as a result of complaints about conflicts of use on the waterways.

“The Commission was diverse in its membership, including members of lake associations, marine dealers, water sport enthusiasts, and shorefront owners. We studied the positives and negatives of “wake boats" and their resultant waves, and ultimately how best to make our lakes safer and cleaner for future generations,” said Chairwoman Suzanne Smith (D-Hebron). Commission member Senator Ruth Ward, (R- Stoddard), stated she was “glad for the opportunity to participate in this Commission. I believe our report with guidelines for prevention of AIS, responsible behavior and stressing education for all boaters, will be a valuable tool.”

Chris Bischoff of the Water Sports Industry Association, an organization representing manufacturers, dealers and enthusiasts, stated “Towboats are a growing part of the boating industry. Boaters are responsible for their wake and must operate understanding this responsibility. WSIA’s national campaign to “Wake Responsibly” recommends staying 200 feet from shore, playing music at reasonable levels, and minimizing repetitive passes throughout the day as best practices when wakesurfing. Environmental issues, like how to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species (AIS), are critical to the success of boating overall. All boats, whether a fishing boat, towboat, cabin cruiser, canoe, or kayak, have the capability of spreading AIS in waterways. The industry is committed to doing our part to educate boaters on “Clean, Drain & Dry” efforts and advancing technology to mitigate these risks.”

Peter MacCallum, of MacCallum’s Boathouse on Northwood Lake in Epsom, offered boat demonstrations and education on the different types of boats, ballasts, and propulsion systems. “Families are attracted to towboats because of their versatility,” explained MacCallum. “Folks can go for a pleasure cruise, take the kids tubing, waterskiing, wakeboarding and wakesurfing safely in these boats. With COVID-19, interest in recreational boating has been strong – with more families seeking to get out on the lake, but we have to make sure boat operators understand the rules of the waterways, especially the 150 foot safe passage law, and take steps to safely and responsibly share the lakes with others.”

Former State Representative Pam Price, an owner of a towboat on Lake Sunapee, agreed. “We have a short boating season in New Hampshire and a nice weekend means it will be busy on the water. Our safe passage law requires boaters to stay 150 feet away from all other boats, shore, swimmers, and docks. We heard expert presentations on wave energy that showed that waves from wakesurfing, if done at the appropriate distance, are no more problematic than waves from a 10-mph wind. It is critical for boaters to be educated about our laws and practice good boating etiquette. As is typical with anything, a few bad apples cause the problems.”

The Commission did not agree on proposals to define “wake boats” or establish a local petition process that would allow people to petition the State to restrict wake boats and watersports from all or part of a lake. State Representative Michael Gunski (R-Goffstown) summed up the work of the Commission, “In New Hampshire, the waters belong to all of us under the State’s Public Trust Doctrine. That means everyone has open access to our lakes and ponds. This is why we need to enhance our efforts to educate boaters and support enforcement of our laws to address conflicts on the waterways.”

The Commission’s report is available on its website. http://gencourt.state.nh.us/statstud...xtkeyword=wake

Biggd · 07-13-2020, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Winni Wake fest

Well, I think you guys should band together and make the boat races happen again. I’ll support the races if you support some wakeboarding and surfing. Maybe it could be a trifecta and also include the sea planes. AQUA FEST. The reality is that Winni is a big lake. If you don’t like big wakes, move to a smaller lake. If you don’t like noise move further north. Urban sprawl. It happens.

On a Lake this big I’d recommend only having a boat over 20ft. It’s a large lake and it’s where the large boats belong. 30ft cuddy cabin boats, 40 ft yachts, 23 foot wake/surf boats, the mount Washington.

In reality (to the trolls) if you are that concerned you should have a lift style dock. It gets your boat up above of the water.

Who's trolling who? Most of the people who have responded to your thread are not trolls. We have been on this forum long before you.
Why should people who have owned property on and around the lake for many years move to appease you and your following? I think it's more appropriate for you to look for another venue.
Don't go away mad, just go away.

Lake Winni Wake fest · 07-13-2020, 04:13 PM

Co-exist my friend. I hope you have a good day.

winni83 · 07-13-2020, 05:20 PM

No coexistence with your crowd and you are not a friend of most of those who have responded negatively to your inane ideas. In the unlikely event you succeed in your goal, I think you will find many video cameras recording your activities for future use and many people quite nearby in canoes, kayaks and paddle boards out to watch. Not many people will do anything to help or appease you.

Your comment about installing a lift dock or moving north to avoid the damage your group will cause demonstrates how ludicrous your statements are.

Mr. V · 07-13-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd

I think it's more appropriate for you to look for another venue. on't go away mad, just go away.

He didn't ask for your opinion as to whether it should occur, he is asking for suggestions as to where it could occur.

If you've nothing positive to contribute then please, resist the urge to tap that keyboard, or start your own thread.

Me, I could care less about wakeboarding but a lot of folks like it, it's legal, and they've as much right to legally use the lake as you do.

lakewinnie · 07-13-2020, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Winni Wake fest

Well, I think you guys should band together and make the boat races happen again. I’ll support the races if you support some wakeboarding and surfing. Maybe it could be a trifecta and also include the sea planes. AQUA FEST. The reality is that Winni is a big lake. If you don’t like big wakes, move to a smaller lake. If you don’t like noise move further north. Urban sprawl. It happens.

On a Lake this big I’d recommend only having a boat over 20ft. It’s a large lake and it’s where the large boats belong. 30ft cuddy cabin boats, 40 ft yachts, 23 foot wake/surf boats, the mount Washington.

In reality (to the trolls) if you are that concerned you should have a lift style dock. It gets your boat up above of the water.

I have a better idea. Maybe you could look farther north, and west. In fact, I'll give you five recommendations:

1) Superior
2) Ontario
3) Michigan
4) Erie
5) Huron

Lake Winni Wake fest · 07-13-2020, 06:40 PM

Do you have any friends or relatives that enjoy wakeboarding, Water skiing, or water sports in general of the towing kind? I am a family man and my family is athletic and we love watersports.

lakewinnie · 07-13-2020, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Winni Wake fest

Do you have any friends or relatives that enjoy wakeboarding, Water skiing, or water sports in general of the towing kind? I am a family man and my family is athletic and we love watersports.

OK - this is obviously a joke.
I think we've all been punked.

mcdude · 07-14-2020, 10:48 AM

A well-written (I thought) article from the Ossipee Lake Alliance

https://www.ossipeelake.org/2020/07/...-on-regulation

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The report’s evaluation of scientific data—including water turbidity, bank slope characteristics and wave dynamics—makes for dense reading. But the report is clear on one point: waves from wake boat have the potential to be larger and more powerful than those created by other watercraft of similar size and shape.
Research sponsored by the Water Sport Industry Association (WSIA) in 2015 found wave heights for wakeboarding were 43% higher than when the same boat was cruising and not towing a boarder. Waves for wakesurfing were 114% higher, using the same comparison.
In regard to wave energy (discussed in detail in the report) the WSIA study found waves from wakeboarding generated 179% more wave energy than waves from the boat when cruising, and 720% more energy for the same boat when wakesurfing.

garysanfran · 07-14-2020, 11:45 AM

Where does one's freedom encroach on another's?

"Your boat is eroding my shoreline"!

"It's my right to do so"!

"But your temporary enjoyment is permanently doing damage"!

"It's my right to do so"!

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Lake Winni Wake fest Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Well, I think you guys should band together and make the boat races happen again. I’ll support the races if you support some wakeboarding and surfing. Maybe it could be a trifecta and also include the sea planes. AQUA FEST. The reality is that Winni is a big lake. If you don’t like big wakes, move to a smaller lake. If you don’t like noise move further north. Urban sprawl. It happens. On a Lake this big I’d recommend only having a boat over 20ft. It’s a large lake and it’s where the large boats belong. 30ft cuddy cabin boats, 40 ft yachts, 23 foot wake/surf boats, the mount Washington. In reality (to the trolls) if you are that concerned you should have a lift style dock. It gets your boat up above of the water.

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AttentiontoDetail Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 13 Thanked 29 Times in 7 Posts	FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Scott Spradling scott@spradlinggroup.com / 603-724-8092 July 7, 2020 NH LEGISLATIVE STUDY CONCLUDES EDUCATION KEY TO BOAT SAFETY ON NEW HAMPSHIRE LAKES Important Guidelines for Boaters as NH Approaches the Height of Boating Season CONCORD - A New Hampshire legislative study commission studying the impacts of so-called “wake boats” issued its final report last week, recommending further educational efforts for boaters on topics of boating safely and aquatic invasive species prevention (“AIS)”, as well as safety legislation aimed at protecting people who wakesurf. “Wake boat” is a slang term used for boats in the towboat segment of the marine industry, known for waterskiing, wakesurfing, wakeboarding and other towed watersports. The study commission was established during the 2019 session as a result of complaints about conflicts of use on the waterways. “The Commission was diverse in its membership, including members of lake associations, marine dealers, water sport enthusiasts, and shorefront owners. We studied the positives and negatives of “wake boats" and their resultant waves, and ultimately how best to make our lakes safer and cleaner for future generations,” said Chairwoman Suzanne Smith (D-Hebron). Commission member Senator Ruth Ward, (R- Stoddard), stated she was “glad for the opportunity to participate in this Commission. I believe our report with guidelines for prevention of AIS, responsible behavior and stressing education for all boaters, will be a valuable tool.” Chris Bischoff of the Water Sports Industry Association, an organization representing manufacturers, dealers and enthusiasts, stated “Towboats are a growing part of the boating industry. Boaters are responsible for their wake and must operate understanding this responsibility. WSIA’s national campaign to “Wake Responsibly” recommends staying 200 feet from shore, playing music at reasonable levels, and minimizing repetitive passes throughout the day as best practices when wakesurfing. Environmental issues, like how to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species (AIS), are critical to the success of boating overall. All boats, whether a fishing boat, towboat, cabin cruiser, canoe, or kayak, have the capability of spreading AIS in waterways. The industry is committed to doing our part to educate boaters on “Clean, Drain & Dry” efforts and advancing technology to mitigate these risks.” Peter MacCallum, of MacCallum’s Boathouse on Northwood Lake in Epsom, offered boat demonstrations and education on the different types of boats, ballasts, and propulsion systems. “Families are attracted to towboats because of their versatility,” explained MacCallum. “Folks can go for a pleasure cruise, take the kids tubing, waterskiing, wakeboarding and wakesurfing safely in these boats. With COVID-19, interest in recreational boating has been strong – with more families seeking to get out on the lake, but we have to make sure boat operators understand the rules of the waterways, especially the 150 foot safe passage law, and take steps to safely and responsibly share the lakes with others.” Former State Representative Pam Price, an owner of a towboat on Lake Sunapee, agreed. “We have a short boating season in New Hampshire and a nice weekend means it will be busy on the water. Our safe passage law requires boaters to stay 150 feet away from all other boats, shore, swimmers, and docks. We heard expert presentations on wave energy that showed that waves from wakesurfing, if done at the appropriate distance, are no more problematic than waves from a 10-mph wind. It is critical for boaters to be educated about our laws and practice good boating etiquette. As is typical with anything, a few bad apples cause the problems.” The Commission did not agree on proposals to define “wake boats” or establish a local petition process that would allow people to petition the State to restrict wake boats and watersports from all or part of a lake. State Representative Michael Gunski (R-Goffstown) summed up the work of the Commission, “In New Hampshire, the waters belong to all of us under the State’s Public Trust Doctrine. That means everyone has open access to our lakes and ponds. This is why we need to enhance our efforts to educate boaters and support enforcement of our laws to address conflicts on the waterways.” The Commission’s report is available on its website. http://gencourt.state.nh.us/statstud...xtkeyword=wake

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