Marinas, Yacht Clubs, Boat Yards COVID-19 plans

[moose tracks]

MVYC will remain closed to all boating related activities until May 4, in line with the NH Governor's Stay at Home order. The following restrictions will be in place:
No Members, Renters, or facility users shall be allowed on the property.
No boat services providers shall be allowed on the property
No boats shall be allowed in the marina basins or at associated docking facilities
No use of the boat ramp for launches or retrievals
No use of any of the common areas of the facility

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by moose tracks

MVYC will remain closed to all boating related activities until May 4, in line with the NH Governor's Stay at Home order. The following restrictions will be in place:
No Members, Renters, or facility users shall be allowed on the property.
No boat services providers shall be allowed on the property
No boats shall be allowed in the marina basins or at associated docking facilities
No use of the boat ramp for launches or retrievals
No use of any of the common areas of the facility

Interesting, is this action even legal for slip owners?


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[chasedawg]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

Interesting, is this action even legal for slip owners?


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Are you really serious.. This is what every marina should be posting. People have to start realizing this is a serious situation. Comments that make it like you are taking away my fun. Get use to it.
Here in Sarasota all boat ramps are closed. No boating allowed. If you take your boat out for a ride...you will get a $500 fine. Marinas are shut down for an extended period of time.

[Susie Cougar]

Hi, chasedawg. I’m down here in Florida too.- Manatee County. I also mentioned a few days ago that the governor of Maryland has prohibited all recreational boating. I asked the forum if they thought the same thing would happen in New Hampshire.
I don’t think anyone on the lake wants to believe this could actually happen to them, but I don’t see how it is avoidable.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

Hi, chasedawg. I’m down here in Florida too.- Manatee County. I also mentioned a few days ago that the governor of Maryland has prohibited all recreational boating. I asked the forum if they thought the same thing would happen in New Hampshire.
I don’t think anyone on the lake wants to believe this could actually happen to them, but I don’t see how it is avoidable.

I can understand closing marinas and sandbars. I do not understand how banning boating would reduce the spread.

[MBNeckguy]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

Hi, chasedawg. I’m down here in Florida too.- Manatee County. I also mentioned a few days ago that the governor of Maryland has prohibited all recreational boating. I asked the forum if they thought the same thing would happen in New Hampshire.

I don’t think anyone on the lake wants to believe this could actually happen to them, but I don’t see how it is avoidable.

How is boating, if you practice social distancing, on a wide open lake contributing to the pandemic?


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[Susie Cougar]

I don’t know what the governors are thinking on this one. That’s why I asked the question.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

I don’t know what the governors are thinking on this one. That’s why I asked the question.

Given Sununu's position on closing hiking trails/parks, I can't see him shutting boating down. Group gathering places, like sandbars, maybe, but I don't see it as a whole.

As for fueling up, a prepay electronic option and rubber glove solves that. And, technically, if only the dock attendants can fuel up, the only point of contact would be opening the fuel cap.

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[rick35]

Originally Posted by MBNeckguy

How is boating, if you practice social distancing, on a wide open lake contributing to the pandemic?


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Who needs six feet distancing when we have 150 feet on the water.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rick35

Who needs six feet distancing when we have 150 feet on the water.

These are simply my thoughts, which we all know are not worth anything

It's not that being on your boat, nor being on the water is the problem.

The problem is the 'choke' or 'touch' points such as, docks, launch ramps, marinas, restrooms, fuel docks, pump outs, and other places where people can interact.

Think of every place you normally go, touch things, or interact with people or places between leaving your home and until you are on your boat driving away on the water, each of those is a potential issue.

For those that go to a dock, get on your boat and then head out to the open water, or to your island home, this is not a large issue, as you can minimize your own touch points and sanitize your hands as you get on your boat.

But for those that have the family use the restroom before you leave the dock/launch ramp to head out on your boat or before the ride to your island, or gather and chat with others at the dock/marina, or may overnight on their boat at their marina, you now have a place where people are interacting, touching things, potentially spreading the virus that can get on peoples hands, then touch their faces, etc.

This is why some places are simply closing their buildings, restrooms, restricting use to immediate family (no guests), etc.

When the non-essential stay at home order is released (currently May 4th), then I'm sure this can be revisited, and luckily the full boating season doesn't really start until the end of May, so the timing could help us.

But just because the 'stay at home' is released, it doesn't mean the COVID19 virus is gone. We really need a working vaccine for the threat to go away.

Each marina/dock/yacht club may want to consider safety procedures that go beyond a release of a 'stay at home' order perhaps until next year when hopefully we'll have a working vaccine and/or many will have recovered and (I hope) will have a natural immunity.

There are many different points of view on this issue that should be considered.

For now, be safe, wash your hands, stay home! I hope everyone is and remains healthy!

[garysanfran]

Every year approx. 30,000 + people in the USA die of the seasonal flu. I think over 60,000 in 2017.

I have been unable to find #'s on the "flu" deaths this year. Are they being lumped into statistics for COVID-19?

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Every year approx. 30,000 + people in the USA die of the seasonal flu. I think over 60,000 in 2017.

I have been unable to find #'s on the "flu" deaths this year. Are they being lumped into statistics for COVID-19?

If you check almost any news source, you will see that the reverse is true--many covid deaths have likely been unreported as covid because the patients/corpses were not tested. Also, you may note that we are now running at over 1,000 counted covid deaths/day--that's over 30K just in a month

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Every year approx. 30,000 + people in the USA die of the seasonal flu. I think over 60,000 in 2017.

I have been unable to find #'s on the "flu" deaths this year. Are they being lumped into statistics for COVID-19?

It is actually easy to find the data. Also, testing for flu is routine so flu deaths are more accurate than Covid-19. As of mid February, this has been a relatively low mortality rate flu season with 18,000 deaths. The CDC has been tracking influenza for years and has good data. The vaccine this year has been roughly 45% effective.

Unless there is real evidence, no reason to think this has skewed the Covid results.

[Riviera]

Originally Posted by chasedawg

Here in Sarasota all boat ramps are closed. No boating allowed. If you take your boat out for a ride...you will get a $500 fine. Marinas are shut down for an extended period of time.

While the boat ramps are closed in many FL counties, boating is still permitted in Florida. Boats must keep at least 50 ft from one another, no more than 10 passengers per boat, and all passengers must be directly related. The bays around Sarasota are still somewhat busy, and as of today, most marinas are still open. Heck, the governor has even allowed golf courses to stay open, subject to certain protocols.

Do I think FL should be doing more? Yes. That said, I believe there are many recreational outlets that can be accommodated in a reasonably safe manner, and boating with household members strikes me as pretty darn safe, aside from needing to get fuel and pump out services. In the near term, the boating industry will need to develop protocols that limit the risk for those services.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Riviera

While the boat ramps are closed in many FL counties, boating is still permitted in Florida. Boats must keep at least 50 ft from one another, no more than 10 passengers per boat, and all passengers must be directly related. The bays around Sarasota are still somewhat busy, and as of today, most marinas are still open. Heck, the governor has even allowed golf courses to stay open, subject to certain protocols. Do I think FL should be doing more? Yes. That said, I believe there are many recreational outlets that can be accommodated in a reasonably safe manner, and boating with household members strikes me as pretty darn safe, aside from needing to get fuel and pump out services. In the near term, the boating industry will need to develop protocols that limit the risk for those services.

Speaking of golf:

three Massachusetts men are charged in driving to Rhode Island and who failed to observe the statewide quarantine.

The Hospital Ship Comfort unintentionally allowed covid-19 patients aboard. The ship was to take non-virus patients to open additional hospital beds in the city. Upon testing at a later time, they were found to be infected. They've been isolated on board, and will be returned to NY City's Javits Federal Medical Station, a station staffed by the US Army.

Mayor Marty Walsh of Boston has directed all in the city to wear masks, and has imposed a citywide curfew to fight the virus.

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by chasedawg

Are you really serious.. This is what every marina should be posting. People have to start realizing this is a serious situation. Comments that make it like you are taking away my fun. Get use to it.
Here in Sarasota all boat ramps are closed. No boating allowed. If you take your boat out for a ride...you will get a $500 fine. Marinas are shut down for an extended period of time.

I was merely asking a question. Instead of having a civil conversation you decided to immediately jump down my throat and assume my question was without regard to taking this situation seriously. Thanks for reminding me why I don’t frequent this forum.


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[Riviera]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

Interesting, is this action even legal for slip owners?

Yes, as MVYC is a form of condo ownership, that is governed by a Board of Directors. If the Board of Directors established the rule, it is almost assuredly binding on slip owners.