Blue Accent Lighting

noreast · 03-23-2018, 11:34 AM

That's exactly what they told me 2 years ago. I know there's been some ify responses in the past but that's the rule, Some People really want to hear a different answer so they'll keep asking.

MAXUM · 03-24-2018, 02:05 PM

I don't get why these are even put on in the first place, they seem rather silly and certainly look cheesy. Some interior accent lighting is nice and I get that but the exterior/underwater stuff, eh I wouldn't want to look like I just came off an episode of "Pimp my barge".

Guess everyone has their opinions!

thinkxingu · 03-24-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

I don't get why these are even put on in the first place, they seem rather silly and certainly look cheesy. Some interior accent lighting is nice and I get that but the exterior/underwater stuff, eh I wouldn't want to look like I just came off an episode of "Pimp my barge".

Guess everyone has their opinions!

You and I haven't seemed to agree on much socially or politically, but when it comes to exterior naval lighting, we're on the same page!

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Hillcountry · 03-24-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

I don't get why these are even put on in the first place, they seem rather silly and certainly look cheesy. Some interior accent lighting is nice and I get that but the exterior/underwater stuff, eh I wouldn't want to look like I just came off an episode of "Pimp my barge".

Guess everyone has their opinions!

They came on a boat that we bought from a dealer...it is nice to see the effect they have and if used as intended (docked/anchored),
I don't think they are obtrusive or offensive (as other air/noise/water) pollutants out there.
To each his own...

ishoot308 · 03-24-2018, 02:43 PM

I think the underwater lighting is nice and serves a purpose when swimming at night around your boat. To use them while underway serves no purpose whatsoever and I am glad they are not allowed while underway.

The interior mood lighting (below playpen area) is awesome and allows people on the boat to see at night. They do not affect the Captains night vision whatsoever and really can’t be seen by other boaters.

Dan

noreast · 03-24-2018, 03:16 PM

I agree with all of that, I have them everywhere and love the interior blue, The outside lights are great at night at the dock, nobody needs extra lights while underway.

garysanfran · 03-24-2018, 07:12 PM

Not seen them, but it seems these lights at night would be cool. I'd like to see an underwater video at night with people swimming.

However, I can see where some people enjoying a quiet dark night view from their places and then having a boat anchored in front with lights on might be annoying.

MAXUM · 03-25-2018, 08:07 AM

I've actually seen people at night tooling around with the exterior and underwater blue lights on - in fact at last year's fireworks display in Ctr Harbor there were a number of barges that had them on and the MP guys did not seem interested in addressing their use while underway. Now could be under the circumstances due to the crowds and so forth they had enough to worry about but I would have thought that if this was "illegal" they would have at least driven by and told those using them to shut them off.

I'm sure most folks that have these installed don't really know they shouldn't use them underway. Just a matter of education.

Hillcountry · 03-25-2018, 10:51 AM

So...respectfully, what exactly is your problem with pontoon boats? You keep using the word “barge” to describe what a lot of folks think is an enjoyable and fun craft for a lake environment. Certainly, these boats can rival anything on the water in looks, quality, and cost...just curious about your obvious bias against them.

Descant · 03-25-2018, 12:06 PM

Some of us prefer to swim in the dark. Lights off, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C2WpZA_L4E

Descant · 03-29-2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant

Some of us prefer to swim in the dark. Lights off, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C2WpZA_L4E

I apologize. This was not the link I intended to post. We re now past the discussion, so the correct link will not be needed.

Dave M · 03-30-2018, 11:29 AM

I have a tree next to shore and I have a spot light on the tree 10-15' up shining directly on my dock stairs. Been like that for 46 years, no complaints, etc. I do live in a cove behind Long Island so there's not that much traffic. It might work anywhere since its not facing out into the water.

Dave M

Hillcountry · 03-30-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave M

I have a tree next to shore and I have a spot light on the tree 10-15' up shining directly on my dock stairs. Been like that for 46 years, no complaints, etc. I do live in a cove behind Long Island so there's not that much traffic. It might work anywhere since its not facing out into the water.

Dave M

Sure...a light up on shore from a mile or two away might appear to be on the water. That said, I’m sure everyone has seen shore lighting from a dark lake and studied it to be sure of what it was...

tis · 03-30-2018, 03:24 PM

Are you sure you can't have lighting on a dock? I thought only colored lights are not allowed?

Descant · 03-30-2018, 04:21 PM

RSA 270-D:7-a Shore Lights. – No person shall display, at any point on the shore visible from the water, any lights that resemble in color or configuration the required navigation lights of any vessel.
Source. 2006, 283:1, eff. Jan. 1, 2007.

Barney Bear · 03-30-2018, 05:56 PM

We have had a post light near our dock for years and years and years and......🐻

tis · 03-30-2018, 06:04 PM

Right, descant, but I think that means any colored lights. ????

BroadHopper · 03-31-2018, 06:22 AM

Decades ago there were very little light pollution along the shores at night. The flashing lights markers were clearly visible and night navigation was not a problem. Today it is difficult to see the lights and night navigation is difficult especially on a moonless night. That is why I despise dock lights that are on during the evening. A good reason why MP will not allow collared or blinking lights. Most of the older residents realize this and turn on dock lights only when needed. Not leaving them on all night like many people do. I even seen docks that have lights on a timer so that the dock is illuminated when no one is on the property! What the purpose? Show off?

MAXUM · 03-26-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry

So...respectfully, what exactly is your problem with pontoon boats? You keep using the word Â“bargeÂ” to describe what a lot of folks think is an enjoyable and fun craft for a lake environment. Certainly, these boats can rival anything on the water in looks, quality, and cost...just curious about your obvious bias against them.

Respectfully - let's not overstate what I've said, or NOT said.

I'm not trying to insulting anyone, I just call them party barges cause that's what they were called when they first came out. I apologize profusely if "party barge" is now considered a derogatory label.

I don't have a problem with them, never said I did, in fact the ones hitting the market these days are very nicely appointed and arguably a pretty sweet floating living room. Still think the exterior lighting is cheesy, which I might add shows zero bias one way or another towards them just one particular option some come with now. You really need to lighten up a bit (no pun intended, and please enjoy responsibly)

Finally I just happened to mention the use of exterior lights at the fireworks just as an anecdotal observation considering there were a number of MP there doing their usual thing and figured that if in fact this was illegal they didn't seem terribly concerned about addressing it. I figured this observation might add to the conversation is all. I never said or saw or even suggested any of these folks were being rude, obnoxious, unsafe in any way.

I have seen bad captains behind the helm of just about every boat type there is out there. It's not the boat that's the problem it's the meatheads at the controls.

Hillcountry · 03-26-2018, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

Respectfully - let's not overstate what I've said, or NOT said.

I'm not trying to insulting anyone, I just call them party barges cause that's what they were called when they first came out. I apologize profusely if "party barge" is now considered a derogatory label.

I don't have a problem with them, never said I did, in fact the ones hitting the market these days are very nicely appointed and arguably a pretty sweet floating living room. Still think the exterior lighting is cheesy, which I might add shows zero bias one way or another towards them just one particular option some come with now. You really need to lighten up a bit (no pun intended, and please enjoy responsibly)

Finally I just happened to mention the use of exterior lights at the fireworks just as an anecdotal observation considering there were a number of MP there doing their usual thing and figured that if in fact this was illegal they didn't seem terribly concerned about addressing it. I figured this observation might add to the conversation is all. I never said or saw or even suggested any of these folks were being rude, obnoxious, unsafe in any way.

I have seen bad captains behind the helm of just about every boat type there is out there. It's not the boat that's the problem it's the meatheads at the controls.

Can’t argue with your last sentence! For sure, lots of meatheads out there!
Oh, and I won’t “lighten up” either...except when anchored of course!

Phantom · 03-26-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

I'm not trying to insulting anyone, I just call them party barges cause that's what they were called when they first came out. .

WOW !

They've always been "Party Barges" to us as well !!

What's the new PC term ? ( I'm sure after you tell me I'll continue with calling them Party Barges, but it might be nice to know !)

.

Hillcountry · 03-26-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

WOW !

They've always been "Party Barges" to us as well !!

What's the new PC term ? ( I'm sure after you tell me I'll continue with calling them Party Barges, but it might be nice to know !)

.

Lol... I'm far from a PC kinda guy but the word barges was being used and not party barges...I do recall hearing people calling them party barges and dont have a problem with that...I dont have a problem with barges either I was just wondering why he was calling them barges which conjur up visions of a dirty old work barge...

Patofnaud · 03-25-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

in fact at last year's fireworks display in Ctr Harbor there were a number of barges that had them on and the MP guys did not seem interested in addressing their use while underway.

I was there. I was one of them at anchor with mine on but turned them off when I was underway. I saw that a lot had them on underway and figured the MP left them alone because they had better things to do.

BroadHopper · 03-26-2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM

I've actually seen people at night tooling around with the exterior and underwater blue lights on - in fact at last year's fireworks display in Ctr Harbor there were a number of barges that had them on and the MP guys did not seem interested in addressing their use while underway. Now could be under the circumstances due to the crowds and so forth they had enough to worry about but I would have thought that if this was "illegal" they would have at least driven by and told those using them to shut them off.

I'm sure most folks that have these installed don't really know they shouldn't use them underway. Just a matter of education.

I notice the same shenanigan at the Meredith fireworks display! Funny thing the 'barge' owners swear that the GFBL crowd are bad, they are worst!

ishoot308 · 03-26-2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I notice the same shenanigan at the Meredith fireworks display! Funny thing the 'barge' owners swear that the GFBL crowd are bad, they are worst!

“They are the worst”

You just insulted about 2/3rds of the boaters on the lake and many on this forum. Does that make you feel good? Do you feel superior with your fiberglass formula?...and since when do pontoon owners ever bad mouth the performance boat owners either here or anywhere for that matter? Many pontoon owners came from performance boats but you already knew that...

Think before you type!

Dan

joey2665 · 03-24-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noreast

That's exactly what they told me 2 years ago. I know there's been some ify responses in the past but that's the rule, Some People really want to hear a different answer so they'll keep asking.

The problem is that it is not a law it is currently just a consensus opinion of the marine patrol officers.

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03-24-2018, 02:43 PM	#5
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,247 Thanks: 2,390 Thanked 5,283 Times in 2,055 Posts	I think the underwater lighting is nice and serves a purpose when swimming at night around your boat. To use them while underway serves no purpose whatsoever and I am glad they are not allowed while underway. The interior mood lighting (below playpen area) is awesome and allows people on the boat to see at night. They do not affect the Captains night vision whatsoever and really can’t be seen by other boaters. Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

03-24-2018, 07:12 PM	#7
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,570 Thanks: 663 Thanked 679 Times in 347 Posts	Send underwater drone vids... Not seen them, but it seems these lights at night would be cool. I'd like to see an underwater video at night with people swimming. However, I can see where some people enjoying a quiet dark night view from their places and then having a boat anchored in front with lights on might be annoying. __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

03-25-2018, 12:06 PM	#10
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,357 Thanks: 1,345 Thanked 1,623 Times in 1,055 Posts	Lights off please Some of us prefer to swim in the dark. Lights off, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C2WpZA_L4E

03-30-2018, 05:56 PM	#16
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts	Shore White Light We have had a post light near our dock for years and years and years and......🐻

03-31-2018, 06:22 AM	#18
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,576 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 1,103 Times in 794 Posts	Shore lights Decades ago there were very little light pollution along the shores at night. The flashing lights markers were clearly visible and night navigation was not a problem. Today it is difficult to see the lights and night navigation is difficult especially on a moonless night. That is why I despise dock lights that are on during the evening. A good reason why MP will not allow collared or blinking lights. Most of the older residents realize this and turn on dock lights only when needed. Not leaving them on all night like many people do. I even seen docks that have lights on a timer so that the dock is illuminated when no one is on the property! What the purpose? Show off? __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

03-23-2018, 11:34 AM	#1
noreast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 648 Thanks: 316 Thanked 120 Times in 93 Posts	That's exactly what they told me 2 years ago. I know there's been some ify responses in the past but that's the rule, Some People really want to hear a different answer so they'll keep asking.

03-24-2018, 02:05 PM	#2
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	I don't get why these are even put on in the first place, they seem rather silly and certainly look cheesy. Some interior accent lighting is nice and I get that but the exterior/underwater stuff, eh I wouldn't want to look like I just came off an episode of "Pimp my barge". Guess everyone has their opinions!

03-24-2018, 03:16 PM	#6
noreast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 648 Thanks: 316 Thanked 120 Times in 93 Posts	I agree with all of that, I have them everywhere and love the interior blue, The outside lights are great at night at the dock, nobody needs extra lights while underway.

03-25-2018, 08:07 AM	#8
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	I've actually seen people at night tooling around with the exterior and underwater blue lights on - in fact at last year's fireworks display in Ctr Harbor there were a number of barges that had them on and the MP guys did not seem interested in addressing their use while underway. Now could be under the circumstances due to the crowds and so forth they had enough to worry about but I would have thought that if this was "illegal" they would have at least driven by and told those using them to shut them off. I'm sure most folks that have these installed don't really know they shouldn't use them underway. Just a matter of education.

03-25-2018, 10:51 AM	#9
Hillcountry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: In the hills Posts: 2,420 Thanks: 1,677 Thanked 786 Times in 466 Posts	So...respectfully, what exactly is your problem with pontoon boats? You keep using the word “barge” to describe what a lot of folks think is an enjoyable and fun craft for a lake environment. Certainly, these boats can rival anything on the water in looks, quality, and cost...just curious about your obvious bias against them.

03-30-2018, 11:29 AM	#12
Dave M Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 395 Thanks: 4 Thanked 26 Times in 24 Posts	I have a tree next to shore and I have a spot light on the tree 10-15' up shining directly on my dock stairs. Been like that for 46 years, no complaints, etc. I do live in a cove behind Long Island so there's not that much traffic. It might work anywhere since its not facing out into the water. Dave M

03-30-2018, 03:24 PM	#14
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,726 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,014 Posts	Are you sure you can't have lighting on a dock? I thought only colored lights are not allowed?

03-30-2018, 04:21 PM	#15
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,357 Thanks: 1,345 Thanked 1,623 Times in 1,055 Posts	RSA 270-D:7-a Shore Lights. – No person shall display, at any point on the shore visible from the water, any lights that resemble in color or configuration the required navigation lights of any vessel. Source. 2006, 283:1, eff. Jan. 1, 2007.

03-30-2018, 06:04 PM	#17
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,726 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,014 Posts	Right, descant, but I think that means any colored lights. ????