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https://support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...deliverability The way it's commonly used, email is a non-confirming message delivery protocol. This means that there is no guarantee that any given email sent from you will be delivered to its intended recipients. Delivery is based on assumption and acceptance by the relay server to complete the function. Additionally, once the relay server has accepted the email for delivery there are a number of things that may prevent the email from making its way to the recipient. Occasionally, a server will provide what is known as a "bounce-back" email, letting the sending server know that the email can not be delivered and why. Many servers will not provide these as part of an effort to provide potential spammers with as little information as possible about their internal processes. With a proliferation of spam emails, an increasing number of ISPs have been forced to implement more stringent restrictions on delivery, as well as focus more on filtering out spam traffic. This makes it increasingly difficult for them to effectively do their jobs without occasionally suspending a legitimate email along the way. Luckily, these systems can be self-correcting and there are steps that can be taken to assist them in the difficult job that they do. Both individual providers and the Federal Trade Commission have made efforts to reduce the overall effect of spam. However, the open nature of email as a communication protocol suggests that it will very likely always represent a problem. https://superuser.com/questions/8971...-silently-fail Can an email delivery silently fail ever, with the sender receiving no notification whatsoever about the failed delivery? Doesn't the SMTP protocol guarantee email delivery, or at least a failed delivery notification to the sender? No, SMTP has no delivery guarantees (you can check it yourself in RFC 5321): There are mechanisms glued on to the SMTP protocol and associated programs for ensuring delivery (DSN, Return Receipts). Note that these themselves are best-effort / mutual cooperation extensions (Most mail clients let you elect not to send read receipts, and some clients can't issue a read receipt. Some MTAs can't/won't issue a delivery receipt. |
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snail mail isn't guaranteed delivery either. with online banking, email, auto reminders and auto pay forgetting to pay something or claiming to have not gotten the bill is not a valid excuse any more.
FYI, I do software development and IT management for a large law firm that specializes in debt collection. |
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We have been forwarding mail from FL to NH for about 15 years with rare but real problems. As others have said, we get almost all of our bills by email and change addresses on credit cards online. I don’t like autopay but use it for condo fees which are fixed.
The errors in forwarding have almost always been when the mail deliverer in FL is changed or on vacation and does not realize that we are not there. It should not depend on this but it does. The post office in FL almost never answers the phone, so no help there. This past year we moved between homes in FL complicating all this so we used premium forwarding. You get everything junk mail and all...the cost if I recall was about 450 dollars for 5 months. This worked except when it did not. Fortunately the people who bought our FL house were kind enough to send mail delivered to our old house directly to us at their expense....but can’t always rely on the “kindness of strangers.” The bottom line is that nothing is perfect but I don’t wail about gross incompetence, uncaring workers....usually stuff just happens. A small price to pay for the privilege of moving between 2 beautiful locations.
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For several years we have had serious problems with the local NH post office (I won't name names) not being able to follow simple directions (and the properly filled out forms) to forward our mail. We had to call repeatedly, the NH PO never admitted anything and then presto, we received several priority mail boxes stuffed with nearly two months of mail.
We have solved this problem by going on line at USPS.gov and filling out the forwarding form there and include our credit card ($1 charged). For some reason, this works incredibly well and for the last two years we have not had any problems. There is still about a week delay in getting our forwarded mail but that is acceptable. |
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I have always used this method which i think elliminates one variable but as least for me it didnt solve the problem i had with the phoenix post office forwarding my mail to NH.
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