Map of Lake Winnipiseogee 1891

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-15-2005, 01:44 PM

Picked up photo copies of this map at the Tuck Library
Sewed it together and cleaned it up. Full Size Map

Note the different names to familiar places.
Meredith Bay = Northwest Bay
Paugus Bay = Long Bay
Big Island = Goat Island (On my other old map it is Boat Island)
Varney Point = Smith Neck
Round Island = Smith Island
Camp Island = Folley's Island
Sleepers Island = Little Rattlesnake Island
Moose Island = Varney's Island
Treasure Island = Red Head Island
Black Point = Fort Point
Echo Point = Gerrish Point
Barndoor Island = Keniston Island
Lake Wentworth = Smith's Pond
Mirror Lake = Dishwater Pond

TreasureHunter · 03-15-2005, 02:04 PM

Actually, it looks like Treasure was called 'Red Hand Island', not the 'Red Head Island' I've seen on other old maps. Also, I noticed Winter Harbor is across the little strip of land going out to Wolfeboro Neck and is instead labeled Tuftonboro Bay.

Great map - thanks for posting it!

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-15-2005, 02:12 PM

That's what I get for working with several maps at once. On most old maps it is Red Head Island.
On another map Rum Point is labeled Rim Point. Or is it the other way around?
Jockey Cove = Winter Harbor on this map.

Chris Exley · 03-15-2005, 02:33 PM

I vacation on Dishwater Pond? I don't think I could get any rentals by advertising: Secluded cabin on Dishwater Pond. Crystal Clear water.

I have never heard of that before. Any idea when they changed it to Mirror Lake?

KBoater · 03-15-2005, 07:07 PM

RG.
It looks like I would be interested in the Tuck Library and the Museum. Have you got a copy of their Map Journal?

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-15-2005, 07:20 PM

Their web site is slowly being updated and pictures of items are being added. There isn't a list of maps as far as I can see.
If you search the catalog, it shows a few things, but there are no thumbnails. You really can't tell what they are.
The museum was a bit of a let down. First floor was limited NH history, not much on at all on the lake. Upstairs was mostly used for the sponsor. I like the library best.

Mee-n-Mac · 03-15-2005, 08:57 PM

I wonder if Brown Bay becoming Braun Bay is like the Saunders/Sanders thing. Mispronunciation over a long enough time period becomes the new spelling ?

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-16-2005, 10:49 AM

I think you are right M & M. Mispronunciation would explain it.
Braun Bay will always be Brown Bag to me!

One night this summer past, we were out for a leisurely family cruise. I was trying to get my bearings and asked where we were, so I could reference the map. Rattlesnake Guy thought the GPS read Brown Bag. We all had a good laugh. Thanks for reminding me of a happy lake memory. (Though they all are.)

KBoater · 03-16-2005, 11:20 AM

Thanks for the info. You are a constant source of good information. I will have to wait on my trip to the library since I will be grounded in Wolfeboro for the first part on the summer.

Rattlesnake Gal · 03-16-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FLboater

I will have to wait on my trip to the library since I will be grounded in Wolfeboro for the first part on the summer.

What did you do to get grounded for so long?

Whatever it is, it must be real bad.

Mee-n-Mac · 03-16-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Gal

What did you do to get grounded for so long?

Whatever it is, it must be real bad.

.... decorated the boat for St Patty's Day w/o the wife's permission

KBoater · 03-17-2005, 11:10 AM

The grounding is for an elective surgery which will allow me to do better boating and also to dance with Winnie Diver.

The boat parade got cancelled because of rain and thunder. I guess I will have to go to the bar and lift a glass or 2.

SLAINTE

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rgilfert · 01-12-2013, 08:40 AM

RG, very cool old map! I am a collector of old Winnpesaukee/Winnipiseogee maps and I had not seen this one previously. Thanks for sharing....BTW, very impressive "stitching" job! I've tried to do similar things (panoramic photos) before with very low quality results.

Descant · 04-22-2017, 04:11 PM

Many years ago I spent more time in Paugus Bay. Little Island had a house on it with a boat slip underneath i.e. at least part of it was a two story house. There was also a good sized dock on the south side of the island. I would guess that ice action over the years has pushed a lot of the rocks around, with some moving under water. If I recall correctly, in "Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee" the author claims you could still see underwater remains of a fieldstone wall running from Little Island to the mainland, pre-raised dam days? That was published in the 30's I think. My copy is at camp so I can't double check.

BroadHopper · 04-23-2017, 07:30 AM

is part of the City of Laconia/Weirs dated 1892.

A map dated 1816 shows Folsom Falls but no dam. The falls dropped about 8 feet. I do know the Lowell Mills built the dam to make sure they have constant water flow. Not sure how much the dam rise the lake. I was told there was substantial flooding and landowners were compensated. Long Island, Governor's Island and Cow Island were not islands and were used for farmland.

rsmlp · 04-23-2017, 11:55 AM

Amazing that in 1891 Long island was already bridged.

SIKSUKR · 04-27-2017, 08:37 AM

I would think that Paugus Bay was raised a lot more than the main lake. The channel was more of a river before the dam. fwiw

Descant · 04-27-2017, 09:35 AM

I understand the channel was actually rapids. Two changes, the dam and the channel was dredged.

kawishiwi · 04-27-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

is part of the City of Laconia/Weirs dated 1892.

A map dated 1816 shows Folsom Falls but no dam. The falls dropped about 8 feet. I do know the Lowell Mills built the dam to make sure they have constant water flow. Not sure how much the dam rise the lake. I was told there was substantial flooding and landowners were compensated. Long Island, Governor's Island and Cow Island were not islands and were used for farmland.

I found a fairly recent report online (pdf) on the Lakeport dam that said it has a hydrological height of 9ft.

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03-15-2005, 01:44 PM	#1
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Map of Lake Winnipiseogee 1891 Picked up photo copies of this map at the Tuck Library Sewed it together and cleaned it up. Full Size Map Note the different names to familiar places. Meredith Bay = Northwest Bay Paugus Bay = Long Bay Big Island = Goat Island (On my other old map it is Boat Island) Varney Point = Smith Neck Round Island = Smith Island Camp Island = Folley's Island Sleepers Island = Little Rattlesnake Island Moose Island = Varney's Island Treasure Island = Red Head Island Black Point = Fort Point Echo Point = Gerrish Point Barndoor Island = Keniston Island Lake Wentworth = Smith's Pond Mirror Lake = Dishwater Pond

03-15-2005, 02:04 PM	#2
TreasureHunter Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Looks like Treasure was called 'Red Hand Island' Actually, it looks like Treasure was called 'Red Hand Island', not the 'Red Head Island' I've seen on other old maps. Also, I noticed Winter Harbor is across the little strip of land going out to Wolfeboro Neck and is instead labeled Tuftonboro Bay. Great map - thanks for posting it!

03-15-2005, 02:33 PM	#4
Chris Exley Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mirror Lake, NH and Royersford, PA Posts: 134 Thanks: 26 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Dishwater Pond??? I vacation on Dishwater Pond? I don't think I could get any rentals by advertising: Secluded cabin on Dishwater Pond. Crystal Clear water. I have never heard of that before. Any idea when they changed it to Mirror Lake?

03-15-2005, 07:07 PM	#5
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Tuck Library RG. It looks like I would be interested in the Tuck Library and the Museum. Have you got a copy of their Map Journal? __________________ Home Permanently in NH

03-15-2005, 07:20 PM	#6
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	Their web site is slowly being updated and pictures of items are being added. There isn't a list of maps as far as I can see. If you search the catalog, it shows a few things, but there are no thumbnails. You really can't tell what they are. The museum was a bit of a let down. First floor was limited NH history, not much on at all on the lake. Upstairs was mostly used for the sponsor. I like the library best. Last edited by Rattlesnake Gal; 03-15-2005 at 07:23 PM.

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03-15-2005, 02:12 PM	#3
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	That's what I get for working with several maps at once. On most old maps it is Red Head Island. On another map Rum Point is labeled Rim Point. Or is it the other way around? Jockey Cove = Winter Harbor on this map.

03-15-2005, 08:57 PM	#7
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	Brown vs Braun I wonder if Brown Bay becoming Braun Bay is like the Saunders/Sanders thing. Mispronunciation over a long enough time period becomes the new spelling ? __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

03-16-2005, 10:49 AM	#8
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,451 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	I think you are right M & M. Mispronunciation would explain it. Braun Bay will always be Brown Bag to me! One night this summer past, we were out for a leisurely family cruise. I was trying to get my bearings and asked where we were, so I could reference the map. Rattlesnake Guy thought the GPS read Brown Bag. We all had a good laugh. Thanks for reminding me of a happy lake memory. (Though they all are.)

03-16-2005, 11:20 AM	#9
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Library Thanks for the info. You are a constant source of good information. I will have to wait on my trip to the library since I will be grounded in Wolfeboro for the first part on the summer. __________________ Home Permanently in NH

03-17-2005, 11:10 AM	#12
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	Slainte The grounding is for an elective surgery which will allow me to do better boating and also to dance with Winnie Diver. The boat parade got cancelled because of rain and thunder. I guess I will have to go to the bar and lift a glass or 2. SLAINTE http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcar...ode=HS20564442 __________________ Home Permanently in NH

01-12-2013, 08:40 AM	#13
rgilfert Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bedford, NH / Rattlesnake Island Posts: 299 Thanks: 152 Thanked 227 Times in 57 Posts	Thanks RG, very cool old map! I am a collector of old Winnpesaukee/Winnipiseogee maps and I had not seen this one previously. Thanks for sharing....BTW, very impressive "stitching" job! I've tried to do similar things (panoramic photos) before with very low quality results.

04-22-2017, 04:11 PM	#14
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 1,339 Thanked 1,621 Times in 1,053 Posts	Larger "Little Island" Many years ago I spent more time in Paugus Bay. Little Island had a house on it with a boat slip underneath i.e. at least part of it was a two story house. There was also a good sized dock on the south side of the island. I would guess that ice action over the years has pushed a lot of the rocks around, with some moving under water. If I recall correctly, in "Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee" the author claims you could still see underwater remains of a fieldstone wall running from Little Island to the mainland, pre-raised dam days? That was published in the 30's I think. My copy is at camp so I can't double check.

04-23-2017, 07:30 AM	#15
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,570 Thanks: 3,206 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Above map is part of the City of Laconia/Weirs dated 1892. A map dated 1816 shows Folsom Falls but no dam. The falls dropped about 8 feet. I do know the Lowell Mills built the dam to make sure they have constant water flow. Not sure how much the dam rise the lake. I was told there was substantial flooding and landowners were compensated. Long Island, Governor's Island and Cow Island were not islands and were used for farmland. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

04-23-2017, 11:55 AM	#16
rsmlp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 473 Thanks: 5 Thanked 164 Times in 84 Posts	Amazing that in 1891 Long island was already bridged.

04-27-2017, 08:37 AM	#17
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I would think that Paugus Bay was raised a lot more than the main lake. The channel was more of a river before the dam. fwiw __________________ SIKSUKR

04-27-2017, 09:35 AM	#18
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 1,339 Thanked 1,621 Times in 1,053 Posts	I understand the channel was actually rapids. Two changes, the dam and the channel was dredged.