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Old 08-02-2016, 06:24 AM   #1
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Shore things, surely you are not implying that APS used an inaccurate, out of date photo to prove a point, are you?
I have an older, and even-more-inaccurate photo, that shows the dock-box sitting 20 feet higher on that same lot. It must be out-of-date, as well

For accuracy, I'll mark with an asterisk (*) the photos that are "inaccurate and out of date".

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I have to say if I were "Shorethings" I'd probably take offense with this comment. Your post makes it sound like you feel Shorethings is personally responsible for this situation. Shorethings posts here to be helpful and informative, it appears that their postings are made in a somehwhat "unofficial" capacity. I don't think it's necessary or fair to be pointing any fingers at someone who has always been helpful to the Winni.com community. I for one appreciate her postings ( I believe Shorethings is a female) as I always learn something from them. I find it refreshing to have a Govt. official who goes out of her or his way to be helpful for no other reason than to be helpful...... If we had more of them the world would be a better place.
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Yes, I agree: secondcurve tried, in one seemingly-harsh sentence, to put too much into my post. The late State Limnologist Jody Connor and I spoke regularly by telephone, but it was Shorethings who has patiently responded to my many frustrations about the health of the Big Lake.

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DNA can determine the specific source of E. coli contamination.

Silt does not originate from waterfowl, but from erosion.

Grass does not sufficiently retard runoff, and introduces nutrients that accelerate "eutrophication" of the lake from waterfowl and fertilizers.

"Impervious surfaces" are the reason for those two different sites experiencing the effects of rapid rain runoff. (Not just driveways, but roofs).

Erosion on Rattlesnake Island is even worse. (Photo 1*, below)

• Nearby, a 20-year-abandoned "Trust" property (ice-eaters operating in July—now sold) has seen erosion that is casting its trees into the lake. (Photo 2*, below). The abutting lot was visited by "Urban Tree Service" last week.

• And yes, increasingly-large boat wakes are responsible. (Photo 3*, below). Nature's waves haven't washed over my dock like these.

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I have an older, and even-more-inaccurate photo, that shows the dock-box sitting 20 feet higher on that same lot. It must be out-of-date, as well

For accuracy, I'll mark with an asterisk (*) the photos that are "inaccurate and out of date".


Yes, I agree: secondcurve tried, in one seemingly-harsh sentence, to put too much into my post. The late State Limnologist Jody Connor and I spoke regularly by telephone, but it was Shorethings who has patiently responded to my many frustrations about the health of the Big Lake.

In short:

DNA can determine the specific source of E. coli contamination.

Silt does not originate from waterfowl, but from erosion.

Grass does not sufficiently retard runoff, and introduces nutrients that accelerate "eutrophication" of the lake from waterfowl and fertilizers.

"Impervious surfaces" are the reason for those two different sites experiencing the effects of rapid rain runoff. (Not just driveways, but roofs).

Erosion on Rattlesnake Island is even worse. (Photo 1*, below)

• Nearby, a 20-year-abandoned "Trust" property (ice-eaters operating in July—now sold) has seen erosion that is casting its trees into the lake. (Photo 2*, below). The abutting lot was visited by "Urban Tree Service" last week.

• And yes, increasingly-large boat wakes are responsible. (Photo 3*, below). Nature's waves haven't washed over my dock like these.

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Sooo...it's nature taking it's course...
I believe we, as humans can do little to alter the ebb and flow of mother nature...just as the Earth is going through a cycle of warmer climate, I will not be here long enough to see any difference in one lifetime. Someday we'll be in the deep freeze again too. How old is Mother Earth?
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Old 08-02-2016, 04:05 PM   #3
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Sooo...it's nature taking it's course...
I believe we, as humans can do little to alter the ebb and flow of mother nature...just as the Earth is going through a cycle of warmer climate, I will not be here long enough to see any difference in one lifetime. Someday we'll be in the deep freeze again too. How old is Mother Earth?
Yes, nature taking it's course... like natural selection. Those individuals that cannot recognize and adapt to changing environmental conditions die off. Those that can persist.
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Yes, nature taking it's course... like natural selection. Those individuals that cannot recognize and adapt to changing environmental conditions die off. Those that can persist.
An unfortunate reality is sometimes natural selection takes way to long.
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Yes, nature taking it's course... like natural selection. Those individuals that cannot recognize and adapt to changing environmental conditions die off. Those that can persist.
As a "race" yes, but as individuals, we have about 80 years to "adapt" (and I would say most of us have higher priorities)
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As a "race" yes, but as individuals, we have about 80 years to "adapt" (and I would say most of us have higher priorities)
Yup... natural selection...
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