Skiing Discounts

gtagrip · 12-21-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

The golf course area of Waterville Valley, elevation-1800', finally got enough snow last night, maybe 3/4" snowfall to make everything look very white, and that definitely is a wintry look. Most years, this occurs on November 8, when the area gets a permanent winter white snow cover, but this year it was December 19.

So's, how long will this winter white be lasting now? Is it good to go for the entire winter, or just a 'here today-gone tomorrow' weather phenom?

White snow ....... what is this stuff?

With Christmas Eve Day expected to be at 68 degrees here in southern NH, I can see that winter white disappearing and I fear some other ski areas may have to shut down again. Not looking good for Christmas/New year's week for skiing!

fatlazyless · 12-23-2015, 11:45 AM

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/opini...azil-12-18-320

It would not be too surprising to me to be true. As a rule of thumb, I usually take the 'trails open' number and divide by three to get a realistic number of trails open for all ski areas...not just Gunstock.

The Waterville Valley ski area is situated on 4002-ft high Mt Tecumseh, while the top of the skiable terrain is on White's Peak at something like altitude 3800' and they call it a 4000'-er ski area.

The ski area business is very competitive, and their websites like to present a very rosy picture.

Winnisquamer · 12-23-2015, 12:29 PM

Totally agree with the /3 on trails . Although 30 trails might be open lets get serious 10 of them are useless unless your under 7 years old or have never skied and than probably another 5 are washed out with crowds.

gtagrip · 12-23-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

Totally agree with the /3 on trails . Although 30 trails might be open lets get serious 10 of them are useless unless your under 7 years old or have never skied and than probably another 5 are washed out with crowds.

Or one trail connects with another in a straight line and happens to just have another name, that is another trail open!

gtagrip · 12-28-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gtagrip

With Christmas Eve Day expected to be at 68 degrees here in southern NH, I can see that winter white disappearing and I fear some other ski areas may have to shut down again. Not looking good for Christmas/New year's week for skiing!

Well, looks like Sunapee had to shut down operations once again. But, Pat's Peak is open and Sunapee is further North.

Seems most other areas were able to stay open through the warm spell.

Winnisquamer · 12-28-2015, 01:00 PM

Even with this storm coming I don't see skiing being up and running for a few more weeks. The resorts that "managed" to stay open good for them but lets not kid each other open and closed is basically the same thing right now. With out 2 or 3 good storms I can't see how they are going to build enough base to have solid coverage to justify the prices.

gtagrip · 12-28-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

Even with this storm coming I don't see skiing being up and running for a few more weeks. The resorts that "managed" to stay open good for them but lets not kid each other open and closed is basically the same thing right now. With out 2 or 3 good storms I can't see how they are going to build enough base to have solid coverage to justify the prices.

I agree. We normally go skiing over New Year's and this year with the way it falls it was going to be an extended weekend of skiing, not now. The prices for what is open are not justifiable.

fatlazyless · 01-01-2016, 08:10 AM

At Waterville Valley, www.waterville.com , what's coming out of the snow wands or snow guns is most all water spray because the temp is 32 with relatively high humidity. Even with all the snow-making improvements and equipment up-grades, the laws of physics still apply here, so today, January 1, 2016, you get 9 out of 50 trails, 43 out of 220-acres, 11-inches snowfall total to date for the 'early season' price of $57 ........such a deal! And, the trails conditions are probably very over-optimistic.

Colder temps are due on Monday, Jan 4, so it looks like Christmas week was a very big, lost vacation business week ..... a lost ski Christmas....... boo-hoo!

fatlazyless · 01-10-2016, 08:06 AM

8-am, Sunday, Jan 11, and it is a warm 38-degrees and very moist Sunday morning here at Waterville Valley: the main lift opened at 8-am, just as the predicted all-day long rain starts to be raining ..... ugh ..... pitter-patter ....raindrops are falling from the ski.....just a little rain, but very dreary looking ...... oh well .... no lift line and almost no skiers loading the lift here what with skiing in the rain ..... supposedly, more normal below 32-degree temps will be here all week long, starting tomorrow, on Monday? It looks like three skiers got on the first two chairs, at opening when they remove the rope gate, and now after about five minutes of empty chairs go by with no one on the lift.....looks like a deserted early morning start....there's no one skiing? So many empty chairs on the chairlift on channel D121-2 twc ..... think I'll go take a drip-trip walk around the golf course.

Rusty · 01-10-2016, 10:32 AM

FLL, today is Jan 10...your above post states Jan 11.

fatlazyless · 01-10-2016, 10:51 AM

.....oopsie-doopsie.....my bad....wrong date....today is the 10th.....thanks for pointing that out.....in my world it just don't make all that much difference....and taking another look at channel D121-2 twc, the main lift has now been shut down no doubt due to the heavier rain, and wind, or both rain and wind ...... wonder if they refund today's 77-dollar lift ticket price.....such an expensive deal when you know that just 1 1/2-mile away, starting at the Depot Camp parking lot, the U.S. Forest Service has about six to seven miles of free-to-use WMNF xc skiing and hiking trails....and what u need is a $3/day or $20/year car parking sticker?

Rusty · 01-10-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

.....oopsie-doopsie.....my bad....wrong date....today is the 10th.....thanks for pointing that out.....in my world it just don't make all that much difference

I just thought that you might want to know so that you wouldn't miss out on some store sale because you showed up on the wrong date.

12-23-2015, 11:45 AM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	.....Gunstock's 1400' vertical drop in question? http://www.laconiadailysun.com/opini...azil-12-18-320 It would not be too surprising to me to be true. As a rule of thumb, I usually take the 'trails open' number and divide by three to get a realistic number of trails open for all ski areas...not just Gunstock. The Waterville Valley ski area is situated on 4002-ft high Mt Tecumseh, while the top of the skiable terrain is on White's Peak at something like altitude 3800' and they call it a 4000'-er ski area. The ski area business is very competitive, and their websites like to present a very rosy picture. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 12-23-2015 at 03:54 PM.

01-01-2016, 08:10 AM	#8
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	At Waterville Valley, www.waterville.com , what's coming out of the snow wands or snow guns is most all water spray because the temp is 32 with relatively high humidity. Even with all the snow-making improvements and equipment up-grades, the laws of physics still apply here, so today, January 1, 2016, you get 9 out of 50 trails, 43 out of 220-acres, 11-inches snowfall total to date for the 'early season' price of $57 ........such a deal! And, the trails conditions are probably very over-optimistic. Colder temps are due on Monday, Jan 4, so it looks like Christmas week was a very big, lost vacation business week ..... a lost ski Christmas....... boo-hoo! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-10-2016, 08:06 AM	#9
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	... skiing in the rain? 8-am, Sunday, Jan 11, and it is a warm 38-degrees and very moist Sunday morning here at Waterville Valley: the main lift opened at 8-am, just as the predicted all-day long rain starts to be raining ..... ugh ..... pitter-patter ....raindrops are falling from the ski.....just a little rain, but very dreary looking ...... oh well .... no lift line and almost no skiers loading the lift here what with skiing in the rain ..... supposedly, more normal below 32-degree temps will be here all week long, starting tomorrow, on Monday? It looks like three skiers got on the first two chairs, at opening when they remove the rope gate, and now after about five minutes of empty chairs go by with no one on the lift.....looks like a deserted early morning start....there's no one skiing? So many empty chairs on the chairlift on channel D121-2 twc ..... think I'll go take a drip-trip walk around the golf course. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-10-2016, 10:32 AM	#10
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	FLL, today is Jan 10...your above post states Jan 11. __________________ It's never crowded along the extra mile.

01-10-2016, 10:51 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	.....oopsie-doopsie.....my bad....wrong date....today is the 10th.....thanks for pointing that out.....in my world it just don't make all that much difference....and taking another look at channel D121-2 twc, the main lift has now been shut down no doubt due to the heavier rain, and wind, or both rain and wind ...... wonder if they refund today's 77-dollar lift ticket price.....such an expensive deal when you know that just 1 1/2-mile away, starting at the Depot Camp parking lot, the U.S. Forest Service has about six to seven miles of free-to-use WMNF xc skiing and hiking trails....and what u need is a $3/day or $20/year car parking sticker? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-23-2015, 12:29 PM	#3
Winnisquamer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Winnisquam Posts: 408 Thanks: 72 Thanked 115 Times in 73 Posts	Totally agree with the /3 on trails . Although 30 trails might be open lets get serious 10 of them are useless unless your under 7 years old or have never skied and than probably another 5 are washed out with crowds.

12-28-2015, 01:00 PM	#6
Winnisquamer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Winnisquam Posts: 408 Thanks: 72 Thanked 115 Times in 73 Posts	Even with this storm coming I don't see skiing being up and running for a few more weeks. The resorts that "managed" to stay open good for them but lets not kid each other open and closed is basically the same thing right now. With out 2 or 3 good storms I can't see how they are going to build enough base to have solid coverage to justify the prices.