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Old 07-25-2015, 08:40 AM   #1
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Arrow What the Trojan Horse Law Allows...

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You need to READ and UNDERSTAND the laws.. before you post CRAP about what Law Breakers boaters are... Somewhere a village in Florida is missing its idiot!

APS=BS...
Not so fast: we agree about the 150' rule being a lifesaver.

We also agree that the NHMP is understaffed, but composed of ready-and-able employees and officers.

We also agree (now) that the night-time speed limit is sensible. That sensibility didn't have to "dawn" on this Floridian

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What part of there are NO (ZIP, ZERO, NADA, EMPTY SET) UNMUFFLED EXHAUSTS on Lake Winni.... Unless you want to start bashing the old woodie guys... I know a few of them have straight pipes!
​​​​• Just to set a standard noise parameter for my videos, on Thursday, I videotaped a [known and] particularly rich man in an old Laker. Even when he disappeared out of sight (about 1½-miles), he was clearly heard on the video.

​​​​• Is it your belief that rich people should be exempt from disturbing the peace of others? Or, to use your phrase, should anyone "be exempt" to disturb the peace in a "State Park"?

​​​​• BTW: Only automobile horns and gunshots are louder than what's allowed under the Trojan Horse law.

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As you have pretty close to ZERO experience with fast powerboats, I hardly think your OPINION of what constitutes chine walking is valid...
​​​​• I have hand-built three boats—two of them hydroplanes.

​​​​• You?

​​​​• For those unfamiliar with "chine-walking", here's a short YouTube simulation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKTXxzPPMo0

​​​​• If you could think of the worst models of boats that chine-walk, would you skip Donzi?



​​​​• A Donzi 26ZX story from the Web:

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"The problem I am having is at a GPS measured speed of 78mph she starts to chine walk and progressively gets worse. I have WPM add-on hydraulic steering and biscuit tin trim tabs! I am not sure if it requires full dual hydraulic steering system or a set of performance 24" long tabs - or both! Please can somebody advise me before I get wet!!!
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...e-walking.html
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As far as a Black flag representing Anarchy?? Yup... Saw one flying on a pontoon boat this weekend! No doubt they are radical Winnipesaukee Anarchists... Maybe you should call homeland security??
There are so many pontoon boats cruising, skiing, tubing, and sight-seeing around here I've asked a neighbor to identify theirs with a flag, so his pontoon boat flies the flag of The Miami Dolphins. I told him "You're not safe on Lake Winnipesaukee".

But the black flag of Anarchy on Lake Winnipesaukee indicates the banditry that characterizes a noisy, recent, and present danger to peaceable boaters and other lake users—but especially Winter Harbor's calmer shores.

New Hampshire has been designated "louder" by the New Hampshire Legislature. Is that the "right direction" to protect the hearing of youngsters?
http://francestown.us/nhnoise.php



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And you are WRONG about the lights.... AS USUAL! 1/2 hour BEFORE sunset, he was not required to display Nav lights... Not saying it would have been prudent to do so... But NO LAW was broken!
Because of the gloomy weather, other boats had their nav-lights on.

If you're towing a skier behind 150' tow-rope at 60-70 MPH, you should make yourself as visible as possible, IMHO. In spite of the extra carrying weight—and although "the driver" could sense the fall of a skier—one should also carry an observer!

Remember that Winter Harbor's "dagger" shape resembles another narrow Lake—made infamous and deadly by an Ocean-Racer. Except in New Hampshire, you have to stay away from Winter Harbor's shoreline, docks, boats, and floats by 150'.

But only one Winter Harbor shoreline is usually calm enough for SUPs, canoes, kayaks, inflatables and water skiers. A tow-rope 150-feet long is an "incident" waiting to happen—though that length might be "totally legal" according to Woodsy.

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I have a jolly roger, I wonder if it me that he is stalking? hmmmmmm, maybe the local authorities should be called, I am nervous. APS, feel free to stop by when you are over here watching my family, drinks are on me.
No thanks.

I don't drink and go boating.

"Decide before you drive".

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Ok, lets try a different tactic, APS, do you want a ride on a boat? Let me know and I will gladly take you for a ride so you can see people wave and smile at it when we are on the lake. I will come pick you up in winter harbor.
No Thanks. I have my own boat, and don't normally wave unless—or until—the other boat is a legal 150-feet+ away.

•​ ​Now who was it that said the noise limits haven't been changed?

•​ Who was it that said Ocean-Racers aren't a cult?







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Old 07-26-2015, 12:57 AM   #2
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Not so fast: we agree about the 150' rule being a lifesaver.

We also agree that the NHMP is understaffed, but composed of ready-and-able employees and officers.

We also agree (now) that the night-time speed limit is sensible. That sensibility didn't have to "dawn" on this Floridian



​​​​• Just to set a standard noise parameter for my videos, on Thursday, I videotaped a [known and] particularly rich man in an old Laker. Even when he disappeared out of sight (about 1½-miles), he was clearly heard on the video.

​​​​• Is it your belief that rich people should be exempt from disturbing the peace of others? Or, to use your phrase, should anyone "be exempt" to disturb the peace in a "State Park"?

​​​​• BTW: Only automobile horns and gunshots are louder than what's allowed under the Trojan Horse law.


​​​​• I have hand-built three boats—two of them hydroplanes.

​​​​• You?

​​​​• For those unfamiliar with "chine-walking", here's a short YouTube simulation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKTXxzPPMo0

​​​​• If you could think of the worst models of boats that chine-walk, would you skip Donzi?



​​​​• A Donzi 26ZX story from the Web:



There are so many pontoon boats cruising, skiing, tubing, and sight-seeing around here I've asked a neighbor to identify theirs with a flag, so his pontoon boat flies the flag of The Miami Dolphins. I told him "You're not safe on Lake Winnipesaukee".

But the black flag of Anarchy on Lake Winnipesaukee indicates the banditry that characterizes a noisy, recent, and present danger to peaceable boaters and other lake users—but especially Winter Harbor's calmer shores.

New Hampshire has been designated "louder" by the New Hampshire Legislature. Is that the "right direction" to protect the hearing of youngsters?
http://francestown.us/nhnoise.php



Because of the gloomy weather, other boats had their nav-lights on.

If you're towing a skier behind 150' tow-rope at 60-70 MPH, you should make yourself as visible as possible, IMHO. In spite of the extra carrying weight—and although "the driver" could sense the fall of a skier—one should also carry an observer!

Remember that Winter Harbor's "dagger" shape resembles another narrow Lake—made infamous and deadly by an Ocean-Racer. Except in New Hampshire, you have to stay away from Winter Harbor's shoreline, docks, boats, and floats by 150'.

But only one Winter Harbor shoreline is usually calm enough for SUPs, canoes, kayaks, inflatables and water skiers. A tow-rope 150-feet long is an "incident" waiting to happen—though that length might be "totally legal" according to Woodsy.



No thanks.

I don't drink and go boating.

"Decide before you drive".

No Thanks. I have my own boat, and don't normally wave unless—or until—the other boat is a legal 150-feet+ away.

•​ ​Now who was it that said the noise limits haven't been changed?

•​ Who was it that said Ocean-Racers aren't a cult?







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Old 07-26-2015, 07:06 AM   #3
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No thanks.

I don't drink and go boating.

"Decide before you drive".



I guess you missed the main point there ASP, the invite was sarcastic. I get the point that you think the constant jabs on where I live concern me. Its the opposite, I welcome you to confront me when you are over snooping on my family. Maybe either you or I will see the others opinion clearer if you stopped the online drama and name calling.
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Old 07-27-2015, 12:10 PM   #4
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So who was it during a SL debate in front of the legislature. 'Sea Rays belong on the Seas, Key West belongs in the keys, cabin cruisers are ocean going vessels and so forth...........................................'?

This clearly shows an attempt to ban boats from Winni, I distantly remember it was an elderly guy from Wolfeboro standing next to Rep, Pilliod.

The majority of the Sea Rays on the lake aren't even big enough to enjoy on the ocean. I'm surprise this guy wasn't talking about 'them cigar' boats.
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