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Old 07-01-2015, 09:49 AM   #1
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Hitting it early? A 7 year-old could take a better video
It's been fixed—look again.



It's a little camera supported on a railing, and there was no way to get the perp to slow down.

The Marine Patrol certainly wasn't "on it".

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You wouldn't know chine walking without googling the definition. You certainly wouldn't recognize it from a starboard view. Further, a donzi is not chine walking at much less than 70 or so.
I'll take this expert's view over yours any day:

http://www.screamandfly.com/content....-How-To-Fix-It

But thanks for the 70-MPH opinion. There are brief segments in that latest "run" that suggest the Donzi is at 70-MPH (and "chine-walking").

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I have two friends that live in WH that love the boats and we met there so their kids could see the boats. What did you think I meant?


That you intended harassment—along with Scott Verdonk of SBONH—
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Wisely, Don created this sandbox where you can be countered. Flying off the handle appears to be a family trait... My family member landed on Omaha on June 6 and slogged his way through France, Belgium and the Rhineland. He was the kindest person I have ever met, never mentioned his service and certainly would not hurt someone for running a boat down an EMPTY bay at speed.
How EMPTY was it?



Countered? I videotaped two RSA violations on one YouTube, and all the immature responses come out.



He made two runs at illegal speeds. I don't know where his "switchable-exhaust" went to—seems he'd made his "Captain's" choice already.

As for the "sandbox", we're permitted to flag posts that are:

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I sent it in, but apparently there's no penalty noted for the play of borderline threatening-behavior. As a result, WPD has been notified.



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Look at this, another forum that has a member with the same complaints and opinions as APS. I wonder if they know each other? http://wolfgil.forumotion.com/t3685-...-winter-harbor
Thanks for that. I'd intended this morning to take the debate of illegal speeds, noise, and lack of Marine Patrol enforcement to a forum that could use some new "blood".

(Figuratively speaking, of course).

And not burden Don's forum with high-speed "children at the helm"—while awaiting the next newspaper headlines.

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So you took a video that shows a boat! You claim a violation of 2 RSA's and that the boat is dangerously chine walking.I don't see it. IMHO, The boat is certainly not over the Db limit and neither is the boat chine walking or violating the speed limit...

It is your OPINION that the operator is in violation... but that's just it.... just like my observation of your video, IT IS OPINION, NOT FACT!

Its a 16 foot boat... HARDLY an ocean racer! Its actually designed for water skiing... the original model name for the boat was Ski-Sporter.

With the engine above 2000 RPM he wouldn't use his switchable exhaust anyway! Your lack of comprehension of how that system works truly amazes me! Especially since it has been explained to you so many times!

Who is the Idiot?? Hmmmm.....

Harassment? WE the PEOPLE of NH have a RIGHT to use the Lake in any manner we see fit WITHIN the LAWS & RULES set forth by NH RSA's and SAF-C 400! If those uses annoy you.. well too bad for you!

Your family property borders what is essentially a State Park... you do not have any RIGHT to Peace and Quiet. You are not a captive audience... Feel free to move... Like maybe just stay in Florida?

I will not justify your ISIS comparison... you do a great disservice to those people in our armed forces who actually fight & direct the war on terrorism...

APS=BS!!!

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Old 07-02-2015, 08:31 AM   #3
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I can see the face palm the dispatcher gives him/herself when they see APS' caller ID pop up on their screen!
APS: "Tell those meanies to stop boating on MY lake" Dispatch: "Certainly sir, now I need to go before I start laughing in your ear"
I've made just one call in three years to "the NHMP authorities"—one to TFD—and none to WPD in this decade. Reports of wrongdoing can be emailed to WPD "for record".

That one NHMP call regarded three paddleboats connected by lines and swimmers in the pinch-point at Keewaydin Point. The dispatcher insisted they were doing nothing wrong. (As they were difficult to see among the multiple lanes of heavy waterskiing, sailing, tubing, and high-speed travel—"doing nothing wrong" was hardly the point in calling).

Fortunately, the MP appeared before the call ended, correctly addressed the situation, and I could hang up on the dispatcher.

Previous calls to the NHMP addressed open exhausts, which I timed so the dispatcher could hear the exhausts blasting our conversation!



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Wisely, Don created this sandbox where you can be countered.
I appreciate the ability to "counter" risk-takers who believe they should be allowed to trash the lake's quiet bays, harbors and coves.

It's an American freedom that some would squash—if they could.



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Flying off the handle appears to be a family trait... My family member landed on Omaha on June 6 and slogged his way through France, Belgium and the Rhineland..."
Did he place rocks in the treads of Nazi Panzer tanks as an 11-year old?

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"...you do a great disservice to those people in our armed forces who actually fight & direct the war on terrorism..."
ISIS didn't exist until our armed forces were removed from Iraq. (By D.C.—the District of Corruption).

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"...I will not justify your ISIS comparison..."
Without enforcement, Winnipesaukee's scofflaws run amok. The NH Marine Patrol should be doing its job—especially as this Donzi runs the same course every Memorial Day.


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Old 07-15-2015, 07:46 PM   #4
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So you took a video that shows a boat! You claim a violation of 2 RSA's and that the boat is dangerously chine walking.I don't see it.
Perhaps you should examine the video closer—it's a short video.

The instability can be seen when the Donzi approaches and then leaves intervening foliage. 'Course, an unwilling viewer won't be able to see it or hear the Illegalities involved.

From last year, I have much shorter video of the same Donzi, where the Illegal noise and speed can't be dismissed.

Just this minute, a ½-hour before sunset, an even noisier yellow boat sped by Illegally twice, towing a skier at the end of a 150' ski rope. Other boats have their navigation lights on.

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Your family property borders what is essentially a State Park... you do not have any RIGHT to Peace and Quiet. You are not a captive audience...
As you are aware, my avocation is instructing race car drivers. Our national club doesn't release our students to race around our public roadways—with open exhaust cut-outs—no less a State Park.

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Feel free to move... Like maybe just stay in Florida?
• Florida currently has an "Ocean-Racer driver" serving 85 years in jail for his beer-driven "need for speed". His attitude was no different than the alcohol-driven assaults of "Performance Boat drivers" seen on Lake Winnipesaukee at Meredith, Diamond Island, Gilford, and most reprehensibly, at Long Lake—which bears more than a strong resemblance to Winter Harbor—the scene of both videos.

• Justice in New Hampshire? Not so much. "Justice" in New Hampshire pales in comparison. Pajamas Justice for a killing? Think of a year of having to overnight [only] in jail.

• Consider the national study that shows Florida (with its extremely long coastline, and year-round fair weather), has a lower percentage of imbibers than Massachusetts—and the rest of New England.

• Besides, I have family going back generations here, even before Tuftonboro got electricity. We're not leaving.

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I will not justify your ISIS comparison... you do a great disservice to those people in our armed forces who actually fight & direct the war on terrorism...

Woodsy
At least one of your "Performance Boat drivers" flies the black and white flag representing no less than the Anarchy of ISIS on the lake—and intolerance towards peaceable boaters. It's not just "The Weekend Cowboys".


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Sorry folks...


No worries—liquid countermeasures might be very difficult to remove from oversized plastic hulls and most other surfaces.

Try to see yourselves as TV characters.

(It's not pretty, and doesn't end well).

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At least one of your "Performance Boat drivers" flies the black and white flag representing no less than the Anarchy of ISIS on the lake—and intolerance towards peaceable boaters. It's not just "The Weekend Cowboys".
I have a jolly roger, I wonder if it me that he is stalking? hmmmmmm, maybe the local authorities should be called, I am nervous. APS, feel free to stop by when you are over here watching my family, drinks are on me.
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It's been fixed—look again.



It's a little camera supported on a railing, and there was no way to get the perp to slow down.

The Marine Patrol certainly wasn't "on it".


I'll take this expert's view over yours any day:

http://www.screamandfly.com/content....-How-To-Fix-It

But thanks for the 70-MPH opinion. There are brief segments in that latest "run" that suggest the Donzi is at 70-MPH (and "chine-walking").

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That you intended harassment—along with Scott Verdonk of SBONH—
"Safe Boaters Of New Hampshire".





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How EMPTY was it?



Countered? I videotaped two RSA violations on one YouTube, and all the immature responses come out.



He made two runs at illegal speeds. I don't know where his "switchable-exhaust" went to—seems he'd made his "Captain's" choice already.

As for the "sandbox", we're permitted to flag posts that are:

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I sent it in, but apparently there's no penalty noted for the play of borderline threatening-behavior. As a result, WPD has been notified.




Thanks for that. I'd intended this morning to take the debate of illegal speeds, noise, and lack of Marine Patrol enforcement to a forum that could use some new "blood".

(Figuratively speaking, of course).

And not burden Don's forum with high-speed "children at the helm"—while awaiting the next newspaper headlines.

In all of this ramble, did you have a point? Who is harassing you? You are the one posing videos and calling people names and making unfounded accusations. When you called WPD, what accusation did you use?
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I can see the face palm the dispatcher gives him/herself when they see APS' caller ID pop up on their screen!

APS: "Tell those meanies to stop boating on MY lake"

Dispatch: "Certainly sir, now I need to go before I start laughing in your ear"
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I can see the face palm the dispatcher gives him/herself when they see APS' caller ID pop up on their screen!

APS: "Tell those meanies to stop boating on MY lake"

Dispatch: "Certainly sir, now I need to go before I start laughing in your ear"
APS: Takes bad video
APS: "Tell those meanies to stop boating on MY lake"
APS: Posts videos and past quotes out of context and edited anywhere that he is able to

Dispatch: "Certainly sir, now I need to go before I start laughing in your ear"
Dispatch: This is APS? AKA News hawk, wolfborian, etc?


BTW APS, I get that you know that I live on Rattlesnake, no need for the little jabs on NE Rattlesnake to let me know that you know where I live. I get it and I am afraid of you, happy? Feel free to stop by if you have an issue now that you know the big secret of where i live.
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In describing your "It's Not A Race" event (which I provided on YouTube) , "Safe" Boaters of New Hampshire described your boat as a 31-foot Sonic emblazoned with racing checkered flag graphics. Anyone boating from Welch Island to points south can see it prominently moored off Rattlesnake Island. (Or hear its peculiar noise while visiting Keewaydin Point).

Take complaints to them.

Factoid: "Surface-piercing" propellers date back to 1927.



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Factoid: "Surface-piercing" propellers date back to 1927.
Factoid- sonics do not have surface piercing drives, nor do 16' donzis. The only thing that is surface piercing here is your whining and odd threads.
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APS. So expect a fantastic water front show!
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Ok, lets try a different tactic,

APS, do you want a ride on a boat? Let me know and I will gladly take you for a ride so you can see people wave and smile at it when we are on the lake. I will come pick you up in winter harbor.

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Smile APS nevah liked my ski boat either...

The spottahs had to use a camera on a pole so's they could watch the skiers...


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I guess that its a no APS? Offer still open.
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I guess the cure for the dreaded forum antagonistic disease is a kind offer to share your viewpoint.
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Sorry folks! I must have scared him off!
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He noted on another forum that he would not be on wifi this week...
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