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Jeanzb1 · 11-20-2012, 03:31 PM

The point is that IMHO someone who is very, very wealthy and yet chooses to build a lovely home that is not nearly as pretentious as the one in Meredith is classier than someone who builds himself an obnoxious Taj Mahal.

Case in point is Mitt Romney's home in Wolfeboro. He could certainly afford to build the Taj Mahal but, rather, he and his family own a lakefront home that is smaller and simpler than many homes on this lake. And I know someone who has been inside the Romney's home and has described it as "understated elegance."

Enough said!

PaugusBayFireFighter · 11-20-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanzb1

The point is that IMHO someone who is very, very wealthy and yet chooses to build a lovely home that is not nearly as pretentious as the one in Meredith is classier than someone who builds himself an obnoxious Taj Mahal.

Case in point is Mitt Romney's home in Wolfeboro. He could certainly afford to build the Taj Mahal but, rather, he and his family own a lakefront home that is smaller and simpler than many homes on this lake. And I know someone who has been inside the Romney's home and has described it as "understated elegance."

Enough said!

True...his ocean front home with car elevators is very plain Jane. You didn't mention his other 5 homes either. This is his home in Belmont...nothing crazy...your typical Belmont home.

Jeanzb1 · 11-20-2012, 04:44 PM

I may be wrong, but I do believe that the Romney home in Belmont, MA was sold and that they now live in a condo in Belmont. Yes, they may well own five homes, but NONE of them are as large and obnoxious as the many Taj Mahals built on the lake.

jogator1 · 11-20-2012, 06:15 PM

Isn't it funny we feel the need to judge others based on our own inadequacies? How can you tell how classy someone is based on their house? That is riduculous. Some people like small houses, some like large houses, some like modern, some like traditional, some like eclectic, etc. We all have different tastes and desires which makes the world go around. I think it's great that someone is able to build the house of their dreams whether it is to my liking or not.

Denny Crane · 11-20-2012, 07:20 PM

I come up to NH to get away from people who find the need to find something negative in everything. Be happy for someone for a change. YOU ALL DESERVE A PEDIGREE.

barefootbay · 11-20-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

I come up to NH to get away from people who find the need to find something negative in everything. Be happy for someone for a change. YOU ALL DESERVE A PEDIGREE.

We don't find negativity in everything just when travesty and gross injustice is inflicted upon us .

ITD · 11-20-2012, 09:45 PM

ARRRRGGGGHHH, please lock this down Mr. Webmaster!!! before I am forced to respond.....

ApS · 11-21-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

I agree with you. It is a big enough lake for all to enjoy whatever they want. What I do find interesting is that the ones who want the Golden Pond feel are the first ones to tear down an old camp and couldn't possibly live on the lake if they don't have air conditioning.

If a camp is like mine, it's "nestled in the pines". After one hot day eight years ago, I bought two "window-shakers", and can scarcely justify that purchase to this day.

tis · 11-21-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

If a camp is like mine, it's "nestled in the pines". After one hot day eight years ago, I bought two "window-shakers", and can scarcely justify that purchase to this day.

I agree, there aren't many days on the lake when you need AC. A fan is always enough for me. But then, I love the hot weather. I don't know how those who are so addicted to AC would have lived in the old days. And those days weren't so very long ago.

ITD · 11-21-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by barefootbay

We don't find negativity in everything just when travesty and gross injustice is inflicted upon us .

Ok Barefootbay, please give some examples of the "travesty and gross injustice". Thank you in advance.

upthesaukee · 11-21-2012, 08:59 AM

...another thread goes to good people behaving badly, with personal snide remarks exchanged that have nothing to do with the thread content.

Back to the thread's content... What I really love is to see the McMansion with a family cottage still next to it. It is a big lake, and enough for us all to share. Now if I could just hit those numbers in the Saturday night drawing to get my share

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Jeanzb1 · 11-21-2012, 01:38 PM

Yes, we are all entitled to our personal opinions. And IMHO I wish there were fewer McMansions. For example, on our cove several years ago someone bought two lots, tore down the existing family camp, cut down the lion's share of the trees right to the water's edge (paid a fine to the town for doing so but no big deal,) built a McMansion with a helicopter pad, and now flies in and out on his chopper.

Another example is my sister-in-law's family on the water in Gilford. Their camp has been in their family for practically 100 years, now pretty much the same as it was back then. The current owners really wish that their grandparents had not sold the abutting land because they are now surrounded by McMansions.

And what say you about all the screamin' green lawns of those mighty big houses? The impact of all that fertilizer going into the lake every year has a huge effect. Hmmmm.......

And those of us who feel this way -- and there are LOTS of us -- are just as much entitled to our opinions and to express those opinions as anyone else is.

Wishing y'all a good turkey tomorrow!

DEJ · 11-21-2012, 01:57 PM

Yes you are entitled to your opinion however complaining about it on this or any other forum does nothing to fix the problems you so despise. Complaining from behind a keyboard is easy, changing things takes effort. If you want to make a difference here are a couple of opportunities/suggestions for you.

If you do not like McMansions then get involved with your town and try to pass legislation to limit the size of waterfront homes.

If you are concerned with green lawns I suggest you contact the DES and work with them to pass legislation to limit fertilizer around lakes and ponds.

Good luck.

Jeanzb1 · 11-21-2012, 02:25 PM

DEJ: Dream on, dream on. I would surmise that there are more of us who "despise," to use your word, the McMansions than actually like them. But they are already built, so going to the town and trying to limit the size of future homes is futile. C'mon, surely you know that. Ditto contacting DEP about the prolific use of fertilizer. I have done that, too, and I have taken pictures of people pushing their lawn spreaders and TruGreen applying pesticides, but it seems that it's such an overwhelming problem that no one cares anymore. In a perfect world your suggestions would be taken seriously, but that's not the world we live in.

And in the meantime, I am entitled to voice my opinion on this topic on this forum and should be able to do so without being "personally attacked."

DEJ · 11-21-2012, 02:31 PM

I did not personally attack you, just made some suggestions on how you can get involved to change laws on items you do not like. Yes what is done is done however think of the change you could make for the future if you tried. Happy Thanksgiving, keep us posted how you make out.

SIKSUKR · 11-21-2012, 03:10 PM

Wa wa wa wa.I have an idea and its probably already on the POTUS to do list.Lets take away from those wealthy McMansion owners and redistribute to those less fortunate waterfront neighbors.

Greene's Basin Girl · 11-21-2012, 03:15 PM

McMansion or McCottage. It shouldn't matter. Simply enjoy the lake. Life passes by so quickly. Make the most out of each and every day. The lake is here to be enjoyed by all.

Rusty · 11-21-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DEJ

Yes you are entitled to your opinion however complaining about it on this or any other forum does nothing to fix the problems you so despise. Complaining from behind a keyboard is easy, changing things takes effort. If you want to make a difference here are a couple of opportunities/suggestions for you.

If you do not like McMansions then get involved with your town and try to pass legislation to limit the size of waterfront homes.

If you are concerned with green lawns I suggest you contact the DES and work with them to pass legislation to limit fertilizer around lakes and ponds.

Good luck.

There isn't a Town or village around Lake Winnipesaukee that will listen to any changes in the way the land is being sold and McMansions are being built on them. As an example Wolfeboro gets 70% of there operating revenue from lake front property owners.
The more the land sells for and the bigger the house put on it fits into the future operating revenue for each of these greedy little towns/villages around the lake.
IMO more average wage earners should be able to buy lake front property and the tax burden should be split up between all the people in these towns.

tis · 11-21-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

There isn't a Town or village around Lake Winnipesaukee that will listen to any changes in the way the land is being sold and McMansions are being built on them. As an example Wolfeboro gets 70% of there operating revenue from lake front property owners.
The more the land sells for and the bigger the house put on it fits into the future operating revenue for each of these greedy little towns/villages around the lake.
IMO more average wage earners should be able to buy lake front property and the tax burden should be split up between all the people in these towns.

I agree with you but it seems those who pay the LEAST taxes are the ones who want to have more and more services provided by the towns. Spend, spend, spend.

Rusty · 11-21-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

I agree with you but it seems those who pay the LEAST taxes are the ones who want to have more and more services provided by the towns. Spend, spend, spend.

Exactly...If the tax burden was spread around more then maybe these freeloaders would think twice before wanting to spend, spend, spend.

ITD · 11-21-2012, 06:18 PM

Whatever your "position" on this thread, please have a .......

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

WakeboardMom · 11-21-2012, 06:23 PM

Lots of folks who own those McMnsions are only there one or two weeks in the summer. Yay for less traffic on the lake!

I have a friend who lives on a small lake that straddles the NH/ME border. Folks on her road have a chicken coop in their yard. I'll take the Marriotts or Black-and-Decker any day over 17 cottages with chicken coops stuffed into a quarter-acre lot.

WakeboardMom · 11-21-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Exactly...If the tax burden was spread around more then maybe these freeloaders would think twice before wanting to spend, spend, spend.

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Originally Posted by tis

I agree with you but it seems those who pay the LEAST taxes are the ones who want to have more and more services provided by the towns. Spend, spend, spend.

I respectfully disagree with these posts. What used to be my summer home (lol...lakefront but whether or not it's a McMansion is in the eye of the beholder...) is in a town that has one of the best school systems in the state. God bless 'em! Maybe my grand kids will be able to take advantage of this wonderful system.

My driver's license now has this town listed on it as my residence. I told the librarian the other day that I am a year-round resident. Woohoo!

This lake is big enough to have a little bit of everything for everybody. That's why I love it, my kids love it, my friends love it and my neighbors love it.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Rusty · 11-21-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WakeboardMom

I respectfully disagree with these posts. What used to be my summer home (lol...lakefront but whether or not it's a McMansion is in the eye of the beholder...) is in a town that has one of the best school systems in the state. God bless 'em! Maybe my grand kids will be able to take advantage of this wonderful system.

My driver's license now has this town listed on it as my residence. I told the librarian the other day that I am a year-round resident. Woohoo!

This lake is big enough to have a little bit of everything for everybody. That's why I love it, my kids love it, my friends love it and my neighbors love it.

Happy Thanksgiving!

And I love it!!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Merrymeeting · 11-21-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

True...his ocean front home with car elevators is very plain Jane. You didn't mention his other 5 homes either. This is his home in Belmont...nothing crazy...your typical Belmont home.

If it's posted on the internet, it must be true...

I grew up in Arlington, very close to the Belmont area where the Romney's lived. As mentioned earlier, he no longer owns a home in Belmont, only a condo, and that picture is NOT the home that he owned and lived in for many years.

Beautiful and very tasteful, his Belmont home was no where near as big as the one pictured.

BroadHopper · 11-22-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WakeboardMom

I have a friend who lives on a small lake that straddles the NH/ME border. Folks on her road have a chicken coop in their yard. I'll take the Marriotts or Black-and-Decker any day over 17 cottages with chicken coops stuffed into a quarter-acre lot.

You are going to have to get use to it. Chicken coops will be the norm for the new generation. Laconia as well as many other towns are revisiting and revising their laws regarding chicken coops and gardening.

Aaah, the old days when New Hampshire was Cow Hampshire, not New Vegas.

barefootbay · 11-22-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

You are going to have to get use to it. Chicken coops will be the norm for the new generation. Laconia as well as many other towns are revisiting and revising their laws regarding chicken coops and gardening.

Aaah, the old days when New Hampshire was Cow Hampshire, not New Vegas.

The present administration will certainly hasten that return to the austerity of our forefathers.

Hermit Cover · 11-22-2012, 11:30 PM

whether on the lake or in La Jolla on the Pacific Ocean are rather understated.....but remember the man's own words, " I am severely Conservative...." and he is!

gtxrider · 11-24-2012, 10:00 AM

Any one catch "House Hunters" last week? I was channel surfing and I heard Tufftonboro so I stopped and caught the end of the show. A family was looking for a home on the lake! The bought in the upscale town were FLL lives.

webmaster · 11-24-2012, 02:19 PM

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Any one catch "House Hunters" last week? I was channel surfing and I heard Tufftonboro so I stopped and caught the end of the show. A family was looking for a home on the lake! The bought in the upscale town were FLL lives.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ad.php?t=14777

11-20-2012, 07:20 PM	#105
Denny Crane Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 99 Thanks: 28 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts	All this negativity I come up to NH to get away from people who find the need to find something negative in everything. Be happy for someone for a change. YOU ALL DESERVE A PEDIGREE.

11-21-2012, 08:59 AM	#111
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,597 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,453 Thanked 1,979 Times in 1,080 Posts	Here we go again... ...another thread goes to good people behaving badly, with personal snide remarks exchanged that have nothing to do with the thread content. Back to the thread's content... What I really love is to see the McMansion with a family cottage still next to it. It is a big lake, and enough for us all to share. Now if I could just hit those numbers in the Saturday night drawing to get my share. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

11-21-2012, 03:10 PM	#116
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Wa wa wa wa.I have an idea and its probably already on the POTUS to do list.Lets take away from those wealthy McMansion owners and redistribute to those less fortunate waterfront neighbors. __________________ SIKSUKR

11-21-2012, 06:18 PM	#121
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,925 Thanks: 476 Thanked 691 Times in 387 Posts	Thread Hijack!!!! Whatever your "position" on this thread, please have a ....... Happy Thanksgiving!!!

11-21-2012, 06:23 PM	#122
WakeboardMom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH X 2 Posts: 508 Thanks: 595 Thanked 113 Times in 92 Posts	God bless 'em Lots of folks who own those McMnsions are only there one or two weeks in the summer. Yay for less traffic on the lake! I have a friend who lives on a small lake that straddles the NH/ME border. Folks on her road have a chicken coop in their yard. I'll take the Marriotts or Black-and-Decker any day over 17 cottages with chicken coops stuffed into a quarter-acre lot. __________________ MarieM

11-20-2012, 03:31 PM	#101
Jeanzb1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 552 Thanks: 628 Thanked 176 Times in 95 Posts	The point is that IMHO someone who is very, very wealthy and yet chooses to build a lovely home that is not nearly as pretentious as the one in Meredith is classier than someone who builds himself an obnoxious Taj Mahal. Case in point is Mitt Romney's home in Wolfeboro. He could certainly afford to build the Taj Mahal but, rather, he and his family own a lakefront home that is smaller and simpler than many homes on this lake. And I know someone who has been inside the Romney's home and has described it as "understated elegance." Enough said!

11-20-2012, 04:44 PM	#103
Jeanzb1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 552 Thanks: 628 Thanked 176 Times in 95 Posts	I may be wrong, but I do believe that the Romney home in Belmont, MA was sold and that they now live in a condo in Belmont. Yes, they may well own five homes, but NONE of them are as large and obnoxious as the many Taj Mahals built on the lake.

11-20-2012, 06:15 PM	#104
jogator1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 75 Thanks: 62 Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts	Isn't it funny we feel the need to judge others based on our own inadequacies? How can you tell how classy someone is based on their house? That is riduculous. Some people like small houses, some like large houses, some like modern, some like traditional, some like eclectic, etc. We all have different tastes and desires which makes the world go around. I think it's great that someone is able to build the house of their dreams whether it is to my liking or not.

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11-21-2012, 01:38 PM	#112
Jeanzb1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 552 Thanks: 628 Thanked 176 Times in 95 Posts	Yes, we are all entitled to our personal opinions. And IMHO I wish there were fewer McMansions. For example, on our cove several years ago someone bought two lots, tore down the existing family camp, cut down the lion's share of the trees right to the water's edge (paid a fine to the town for doing so but no big deal,) built a McMansion with a helicopter pad, and now flies in and out on his chopper. Another example is my sister-in-law's family on the water in Gilford. Their camp has been in their family for practically 100 years, now pretty much the same as it was back then. The current owners really wish that their grandparents had not sold the abutting land because they are now surrounded by McMansions. And what say you about all the screamin' green lawns of those mighty big houses? The impact of all that fertilizer going into the lake every year has a huge effect. Hmmmm....... And those of us who feel this way -- and there are LOTS of us -- are just as much entitled to our opinions and to express those opinions as anyone else is. Wishing y'all a good turkey tomorrow!

11-21-2012, 01:57 PM	#113
DEJ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 553 Thanks: 526 Thanked 314 Times in 155 Posts	Yes you are entitled to your opinion however complaining about it on this or any other forum does nothing to fix the problems you so despise. Complaining from behind a keyboard is easy, changing things takes effort. If you want to make a difference here are a couple of opportunities/suggestions for you. If you do not like McMansions then get involved with your town and try to pass legislation to limit the size of waterfront homes. If you are concerned with green lawns I suggest you contact the DES and work with them to pass legislation to limit fertilizer around lakes and ponds. Good luck.

11-21-2012, 02:25 PM	#114
Jeanzb1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gilford Posts: 552 Thanks: 628 Thanked 176 Times in 95 Posts	DEJ: Dream on, dream on. I would surmise that there are more of us who "despise," to use your word, the McMansions than actually like them. But they are already built, so going to the town and trying to limit the size of future homes is futile. C'mon, surely you know that. Ditto contacting DEP about the prolific use of fertilizer. I have done that, too, and I have taken pictures of people pushing their lawn spreaders and TruGreen applying pesticides, but it seems that it's such an overwhelming problem that no one cares anymore. In a perfect world your suggestions would be taken seriously, but that's not the world we live in. And in the meantime, I am entitled to voice my opinion on this topic on this forum and should be able to do so without being "personally attacked."

11-21-2012, 02:31 PM	#115
DEJ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 553 Thanks: 526 Thanked 314 Times in 155 Posts	I did not personally attack you, just made some suggestions on how you can get involved to change laws on items you do not like. Yes what is done is done however think of the change you could make for the future if you tried. Happy Thanksgiving, keep us posted how you make out.

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11-21-2012, 03:15 PM	#117
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	McMansion or McCottage. It shouldn't matter. Simply enjoy the lake. Life passes by so quickly. Make the most out of each and every day. The lake is here to be enjoyed by all.

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11-22-2012, 11:30 PM	#128
Hermit Cover Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hermit Cove Posts: 354 Thanks: 20 Thanked 68 Times in 40 Posts	Romney homes... whether on the lake or in La Jolla on the Pacific Ocean are rather understated.....but remember the man's own words, " I am severely Conservative...." and he is!

11-24-2012, 10:00 AM	#129
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	house hunters Any one catch "House Hunters" last week? I was channel surfing and I heard Tufftonboro so I stopped and caught the end of the show. A family was looking for a home on the lake! The bought in the upscale town were FLL lives.