WinnFabs lobbyists

[Skipper]

It must be nice to afford lobbyists. WinnFIBS seems to have the bucks to influence the Senate. Makes it hard for the ordinary people to fight back

I heard that there were several paid PRO speed limit lobbyists at the Senate hearing. Money talks and laws just may be able to be bought.

[Colby]

Originally Posted by Skipper

It must be nice to afford lobbyists. WinnFIBS seems to have the bucks to influence the Senate. Makes it hard for the ordinary people to fight back

I heard that there were several paid PRO speed limit lobbyists at the Senate hearing. Money talks and laws just may be able to be bought.

How much does it cost to influence the Senators? Are the lobbyists paid by the hour or by the issue or what? How does that work? Do they have the same prices or can you find lobbyists with sales and low prices?

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Colby

How much does it cost to influence the Senators? Are the lobbyists paid by the hour or by the issue or what? How does that work? Do they have the same prices or can you find lobbyists with sales and low prices?

I don't know how they are paid, but I assume hourly. There were 3 lobbyists at the SB27 hearing and none were SBONH's.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

IMO, ALL lobbyists should be BANNED from ALL levels of government. Of course, we know the lobbyists and the folks they represent would just find another way to buy the influence of the politicians. But for now, I guess all's fair in love, war and politics!

1) In our highest level of Government, most Legislators are attorneys. While they may may know their way extremely well around insurance "compensations", they may know nothing about, say, health care. Lobbyists, such as AARP, can "enlighten" the Legislators.

AARP operates as a non-profit advocate for its members and as one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States, and it also sells insurance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARP

2) I receive an occasional mailing from WinnFABS. They refer only to "our lobbyist"—in the singular. (Not lobbyists—plural.)

(A fact).

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I don't know how they are paid, but I assume hourly. There were 3 lobbyists at the SB27 hearing and none were SBONH's.

Beginning without any "assumptions", what is your exact meaning?

I read from their literature, that WinnFABS has just one paid lobbyist.

Were any of those lobbyists that your observed—unpaid lobbyists speaking in favor of "Enhanced Speed Limits"?

[gtagrip]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Were any of those lobbyists that your observed—unpaid lobbyists speaking in favor of "Enhanced Speed Limits"?

APS, as you know, money can buy just about anything! I suppose SBONH is not as well funded as......, well I think you know where I am going with this.....

[Sandy Beach]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

2) I receive an occasional mailing from WinnFABS. They refer only to "our lobbyist"—in the singular. (Not lobbyists—plural.)

(A fact).

Beginning without any "assumptions", what is your exact meaning?

I read from their literature, that WinnFABS has just one paid lobbyist.

Were any of those lobbyists that your observed—unpaid lobbyists speaking in favor of "Enhanced Speed Limits"?

And APS believes everything that WinnFABS says because...? Because it sounds good and bolsters his cause of course! True, it may be a FACT that the WinnFABS SAY they have only one lobbyist but the real FACT is that have MORE than ONE paid lobbyist.

Just a quick look at the lobbyists list (1st post in this thread) I see MORE THAN ONE listed for WinnFABS (or as someone else spelled it, WinnFIBS). Lobbyists ALEXANDER J. KOUTROOUBAS and RICHARD L. BOULEY report taking money from WinnFABS. And that is the list reported as of today. It doesn't show how many more lobbyists there were a few weeks ago.

SO, with very little effort I've demonstrated double the lobbyists that you, APS believe are paid by WinnFABS. There are probably more or those paid for by businesses associated with WinnFABS.
I heard that there were at least half a dozen labeled lobbyists at the hearing just waiting for their chance to grab the ear of a committee member when they stepped out of the chamber to go to the bathroom or whatever.

Just because WinnFABS says it (many times) does NOT MEAN IT IS TRUE. You can call it FACT Mr. APS and bold it and say it with large font but it is FICTION. This WinnFABS one is easy one to illustrate that what some claim is FACT is really FICTION.

[ApS]

Since WinnFABS is a grass-roots organization, they must ask for a donation for their lobbyist—singular.

Do we know how many persons on that list are convinced that Speed Limits are necessary—and are donating their time—but still must fulfill the requirement to be registered as lobbyists?

I submit as earlier stated, that some lobbyists for SBONH's multiple agendas have profit in mind—and are likewise unpaid.