Did anyone consider radar/lasar detectors for the lake?

Skip · 02-09-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

The correct Navy term for a submarine sailor is "Bubblehead"

NB

Right and wrong again....

Submarine sailors in genearl are called bubbleheads, as referenced in one of my posts to fellow bubblehead lawn psycho.

However Fleet Ballistic Missile submariners have a specific nickname known as "Boomer" sailors, a reference to the 16 or 24 ballistic missiles their particular boat class carried.

As a submarine sailor or "bubblehead" you had two career paths you could follow. Lawn Psycho chose to go the "fast attack" route and I chose to be a "boomer" sailor. That is how we in the submarine world differentiated between the two significantly different classes of submarine service.

See what you learn when you when you delve deep into depths of the posts here on Winnipesaukee.com!

lawn psycho · 02-09-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Right and wrong again....

Submarine sailors in genearl are called bubbleheads, as referenced in one of my posts to fellow bubblehead lawn psycho.

However Fleet Ballistic Missile submariners have a specific nickname known as "Boomer" sailors, a reference to the 16 or 24 ballistic missiles their particular boat class carried.

As a submarine sailor or "bubblehead" you had two career paths you could follow. Lawn Psycho chose to go the "fast attack" route and I chose to be a "boomer" sailor. That is how we in the submarine world differentiated between the two significantly different classes of submarine service.

See what you learn when you when you delve deep into depths of the posts here on Winnipesaukee.com!

And to follow up with what Skip said, that is why I prefaced my post about the type of boat I was in........ And yes, a submarine is a boat.

Submarines are one of the few places you would admit to wearing a "poopy-suit" and be proud of it

NoBozo · 02-09-2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip

Right and wrong again....Submarine sailors in genearl are called bubbleheads, as referenced in one of my posts to fellow bubblehead lawn psycho.

However Fleet Ballistic Missile submariners have a specific nickname known as "Boomer" sailors, a reference to the 16 or 24 ballistic missiles their particular boat class carried.

As a submarine sailor or "bubblehead" you had two career paths you could follow. Lawn Psycho chose to go the "fast attack" route and I chose to be a "boomer" sailor. That is how we in the submarine world differentiated between the two significantly different classes of submarine service.

See what you learn when you when you delve deep into depths of the posts here on Winnipesaukee.com!

Right and WRONG Again....??

How am I wrong? I guess I don't get it.

I was stationed (Navy) at SuBase, NLon when SSBN 645 was launched at EB. I was enlisted.. as you were. My Rate was OM1. I am proud to have been a part of the Support System for the "Boats" at SuBase. I also worked on the diesel boats as well. Remember them...? WE were a team then. Just sayin.

NB

lawn psycho · 02-09-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

I was stationed (Navy) at SuBase, NLon when SSBN 645 was launched at EB. I was enlisted.. as you were. My Rate was OM1. I am proud to have been a part of the Support System for the "Boats" at SuBase. I also worked on the diesel boats as well. Remember them...? We were a team then. Just sayin.

NB

A lot of people don't realize the cool boats that have been stationed or worked on at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. NR-1, USS Dolphin, USS Sand Lance, and a bunch of other boats the did some interesting ops.

Some good stuff. Also, read Blind Man's Bluff.

NoBozo · 02-09-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lawn psycho

A lot of people don't realize the cool boats that have been stationed or worked on at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. NR-1, USS Dolphin, USS Sand Lance, and a bunch of other boats the did some interesting ops.

Some good stuff. Also, read Blind Man's Bluff.

Speaking of the NR-1. I know a guy who was on the Sunbird..towed the NR-1 around... (Transatlantic) to whereever it was detailed to go. (Find a missing Nuke Bomb.)

Read "Dark Waters"" By Lee Vyborny and Don Davis.

lawn psycho · 02-09-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Read "Dark Waters"" By Lee Vyborny and Don Davis.

Have to pick it up before my next long-haul flight to a communist country (China)

NoBozo · 02-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lawn psycho

Have to pick it up before my next long-haul flight to a communist country (China)

Try The Submarine Museum (Gift Shop) at SuBase NLon, CT. This book is an EXCELLENT addition to "Blind Man's Bluff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew.

NB

NoBozo · 02-09-2011, 09:03 PM

For those who have no idea what this is about: The NR-1 was a Nuclear Mini Stealth Submarine that was developed by the Navy for.......Research...YES Research. It was in service for 50 years. Rickover, Hyman, Adm. ..The father of the Nuclear Navy was behind it. It's real mission was Top Secret for Decades. It gave the Soviets Fits.

NB

lawn psycho · 02-09-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Right and WRONG Again....??

How am I wrong? I guess I don't get it.

I was stationed (Navy) at SuBase, NLon when SSBN 645 was launched at EB. I was enlisted.. as you were. My Rate was OM1. I am proud to have been a part of the Support System for the "Boats" at SuBase. I also worked on the diesel boats as well. Remember them...? WE were a team then. Just sayin.

NB

NB, we also had a name for our bretheren in the forward end of the boat. Anyone who was not a nuke and served up-front was known as a "coner" which is what skip would have been referred too.

Regardless of rate, I will always have respect for my fellow submariners even if they are on the wrong side of the SL debate. We could have a blanket party to give him a correction

NoBozo · 02-09-2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawn psycho

NB, we also had a name for our bretheren in the forward end of the boat. Anyone who was not a nuke and served up-front was known as a "coner" which is what skip would have been referred too.

Regardless of rate, I will always have respect for my fellow submariners even if they are on the wrong side of the SL debate. We could have a blanket party to give him a correction

I remember the Blanket Party. We had a guy in Boot Camp that had an aversion to water..he wouldn't take a shower. In todays politically correct and "caring" society......Well...there's no need to describe a Blanket Party.

NB

Woodsy · 02-10-2011, 12:38 PM

Completely off topic....

But I hope you Bubbleheads have had the opportunity to check out the sub that started it all.... convieniently located here in Portsmouth NH! Some of the things this sub pioneered and developed are still classified! Its def a very cool place to visit!

http://ussalbacore.org

Woodsy

Pineedles · 02-10-2011, 06:35 PM

I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but I did tour the Lionfish in battleship Cove nearly 20 years ago with my Cub Scout son.

NoBozo · 02-10-2011, 08:06 PM

I have seen that boat many times off the side of US-1 on the way north to Bath. Never stopped. I have been aboard a few boats..both when I was in the Navy and when I worked for Defence Contractors afterward. I have even been aboard a British Fast attack boat when it showed up in Newport some time ago.

Memory's from an old Surface Puke who worked with the "Boats". There was a friendly rivalry then. I don't take that term as a put down..

The Bubbleheads referred to Surface Ships as TARGETS.

NB

webmaster · 02-11-2011, 11:42 AM

Since this thread is hopelessly off-topic I'll add that I toured U-995 in Kiel, Germany many years ago. The interior was like a sardine can and at 6'3" I almost had to crawl through it. The bunks couldn't have been more than 15" from the ones above and below. I couldn't imagine being at sea or in battle in that thing. No place for anyone with claustrophobia.

By the way, one of my favorite movies is U-571. Highly recommended for submarine warfare fans.

NoBozo · 02-11-2011, 07:32 PM

Since we are TOTALLY off topic, maybe with some interest in old submarine Sea Stories.. I'll relate this:

It was 1987 and I was working for a Defense Contractor (Navy) in Newport. Our company was an engineering company and was tasked with updating a (NUSC) submarine laboratory.

Anyhow, we had a couple of Bubbleheads who were either Retired or recently separated from the Submarine Service. At the same time, the Clancy book "Hunt For Red October" had just come out. I seemed to be the first to find a copy. Before long everyone in the office had a copy and was reading the book during lunch.

One of our ex Bubbleheads was a "Plank Owner" (Ret) in Nautilus (SSN-571, THE First Nuke Boat) As they were reading the book, people in the office started asking him questions about such things as "Sosus".. and other little tidbits in the book. His Response: Just a smile and a shrug. Sub Sailors are "Debriefed" when leaving the service. They are sworn to NEVER talk about what they saw or did during their service. I know a few of them. They will NOT respond. One of them has been a friend for over 40 years. NO Comment on Sub OPS. This friend was on a boat that was Cable Tapping the Soviets in Russia during the cold war. All he will admit was he was on a particular boat. "Blind Mans Bluff" told me what his boat had been doing. As we used to say back then: "Negative Further". THEY are patriots. NB

DEFINITION: Plank Owner: A sailor who was part of the Original Commissioning crew on any Navy Ship.. or in this case a "Boat".

BOTTOM LINE: Those who served must remain Silent. Civilians (authors) who run across stuff can publish whatever they want.

Pineedles · 02-11-2011, 07:56 PM

This thread is definitely OK as far as I'm concerned Don. People are connecting through shared experiences and even some jokers (non-military) folks like me can add to the conversation. Keep up the good work you guys rock. And, thanks for your service to our Country!

trfour · 02-11-2011, 08:34 PM

Our brother Mel was stationed aboard the USS Hazelwood while serving in the Navy. They had a Family cruise on a visit to Boston, and my sister Dianne and I got to go aboard and enjoy the day complete with a steak dinner. 1959- 1960, as I recall. A great experience for us!!

Here's some history and other specifics on this ship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hazelwood_(DD-531)

Terry
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ApS · 02-12-2011, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Since we are TOTALLY off topic, maybe with some interest in old submarine Sea Stories.. I'll relate this: ...Anyhow, we had a couple of Bubbleheads who were either Retired or recently separated from the Submarine Service. At the same time, the Clancy book "Hunt For Red October" had just come out. I seemed to be the first to find a copy. Before long everyone in the office had a copy and was reading the book during lunch...people in the office started asking him questions about such things as "Sosus".. and other little tidbits in the book. His Response: Just a smile and a shrug. Sub Sailors are "Debriefed" when leaving the service. They are sworn to NEVER talk about what they saw or did during their service. I know a few of them. They will NOT respond. One of them has been a friend for over 40 years. NO Comment on Sub OPS. This friend was on a boat that was Cable Tapping the Soviets in Russia during the cold war. All he will admit was he was on a particular boat. "Blind Mans Bluff" told me what his boat had been doing. As we used to say back then: "Negative Further". THEY are patriots. NB

1) Tom Clancy gets plenty of classified data into his books: all it takes is one to "talk" over a bottle or three.

2) "Sosus" got corrupted, and Toshiba caused the waste of billions of US taxpayers' dollars. I have Navy friends who won't touch Toshiba products. (I own none.)

3) TIME magazine has published accounts of many of our still-classified operations, costing us even more billion$ in American "intellectual property".

This is not to mention America's "Newspaper of Record".

trfour · 02-13-2011, 03:39 AM

We also found a better way to route them out! No contest. Run silent, run deep, is in the past! Acres per Second is a proof + to this.

Class, I don't think so...

And I very proudly served as a Spec. E-4 during the Vietnam war, in the signal Core, kept my mouth shut pretty good in those times...

Now, out the 'nother side, Oh, don't we have Acres P S.

"Shut Up, trfour!"

Terry
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Skipper · 02-25-2011, 06:56 AM

Radar detectors may be good to have on board but what if we all used radar and Laser jammers?

You can Google Radar or Laser Jammers and find some that work and some that are illegal to use on the roads of some states. I don't see any that are illegal to use on boats.

They are cheaper than a speeding ticket and if enough people have them on board then the speed trap becomes a non-issue

02-10-2011, 12:38 PM	#11
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Completely off topic.... But I hope you Bubbleheads have had the opportunity to check out the sub that started it all.... convieniently located here in Portsmouth NH! Some of the things this sub pioneered and developed are still classified! Its def a very cool place to visit! http://ussalbacore.org Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

02-10-2011, 08:06 PM	#13
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Thanks Woodsy I have seen that boat many times off the side of US-1 on the way north to Bath. Never stopped. I have been aboard a few boats..both when I was in the Navy and when I worked for Defence Contractors afterward. I have even been aboard a British Fast attack boat when it showed up in Newport some time ago. Memory's from an old Surface Puke who worked with the "Boats". There was a friendly rivalry then. I don't take that term as a put down.. The Bubbleheads referred to Surface Ships as TARGETS. NB

02-11-2011, 08:34 PM	#17
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	USS Hazelwood ( DD-531 )... Our brother Mel was stationed aboard the USS Hazelwood while serving in the Navy. They had a Family cruise on a visit to Boston, and my sister Dianne and I got to go aboard and enjoy the day complete with a steak dinner. 1959- 1960, as I recall. A great experience for us!! Here's some history and other specifics on this ship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hazelwood_(DD-531) Terry __________________________________________________ _ Attached Images __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

02-13-2011, 03:39 AM	#19
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Yes, The Skunks Of The Sea Hid In Them Tin Cans... We also found a better way to route them out! No contest. Run silent, run deep, is in the past! Acres per Second is a proof + to this. Class, I don't think so... And I very proudly served as a Spec. E-4 during the Vietnam war, in the signal Core, kept my mouth shut pretty good in those times... Now, out the 'nother side, Oh, don't we have Acres P S. "Shut Up, trfour!" Terry ______________________________________ __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

02-25-2011, 06:56 AM	#20
Skipper Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What about radar and laser jammers? Radar detectors may be good to have on board but what if we all used radar and Laser jammers? You can Google Radar or Laser Jammers and find some that work and some that are illegal to use on the roads of some states. I don't see any that are illegal to use on boats. They are cheaper than a speeding ticket and if enough people have them on board then the speed trap becomes a non-issue __________________ Skipper Learn to be a real Skipper, click HERE and learn more.

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02-09-2011, 09:03 PM	#8
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	For those who have no idea what this is about: The NR-1 was a Nuclear Mini Stealth Submarine that was developed by the Navy for.......Research...YES Research. It was in service for 50 years. Rickover, Hyman, Adm. ..The father of the Nuclear Navy was behind it. It's real mission was Top Secret for Decades. It gave the Soviets Fits. NB

02-10-2011, 06:35 PM	#12
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 668 Times in 367 Posts	I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but I did tour the Lionfish in battleship Cove nearly 20 years ago with my Cub Scout son.

02-11-2011, 11:42 AM	#14
webmaster Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,455 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 459 Thanked 3,829 Times in 840 Posts	Since this thread is hopelessly off-topic I'll add that I toured U-995 in Kiel, Germany many years ago. The interior was like a sardine can and at 6'3" I almost had to crawl through it. The bunks couldn't have been more than 15" from the ones above and below. I couldn't imagine being at sea or in battle in that thing. No place for anyone with claustrophobia. By the way, one of my favorite movies is U-571. Highly recommended for submarine warfare fans.

02-11-2011, 07:32 PM	#15
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Since we are TOTALLY off topic, maybe with some interest in old submarine Sea Stories.. I'll relate this: It was 1987 and I was working for a Defense Contractor (Navy) in Newport. Our company was an engineering company and was tasked with updating a (NUSC) submarine laboratory. Anyhow, we had a couple of Bubbleheads who were either Retired or recently separated from the Submarine Service. At the same time, the Clancy book "Hunt For Red October" had just come out. I seemed to be the first to find a copy. Before long everyone in the office had a copy and was reading the book during lunch. One of our ex Bubbleheads was a "Plank Owner" (Ret) in Nautilus (SSN-571, THE First Nuke Boat) As they were reading the book, people in the office started asking him questions about such things as "Sosus".. and other little tidbits in the book. His Response: Just a smile and a shrug. Sub Sailors are "Debriefed" when leaving the service. They are sworn to NEVER talk about what they saw or did during their service. I know a few of them. They will NOT respond. One of them has been a friend for over 40 years. NO Comment on Sub OPS. This friend was on a boat that was Cable Tapping the Soviets in Russia during the cold war. All he will admit was he was on a particular boat. "Blind Mans Bluff" told me what his boat had been doing. As we used to say back then: "Negative Further". THEY are patriots. NB DEFINITION: Plank Owner: A sailor who was part of the Original Commissioning crew on any Navy Ship.. or in this case a "Boat". BOTTOM LINE: Those who served must remain Silent. Civilians (authors) who run across stuff can publish whatever they want.

02-11-2011, 07:56 PM	#16
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 668 Times in 367 Posts	This thread is definitely OK as far as I'm concerned Don. People are connecting through shared experiences and even some jokers (non-military) folks like me can add to the conversation. Keep up the good work you guys rock. And, thanks for your service to our Country!