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And just in case anyone needed more proof that ice completely covers the bay, this from Alton Bay's web cam this morning after last night's snow.
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Still there after last nights monsoon?
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The ice in M'boro bay is gone! There was some slush ice pushing up against the beach, but we went from almost fully iced in to wide open in 24 hours. Maybe it will start again later this week.
THURSDAY UPDATE: Quite a bit of ice back in and north of M'boro bay. It was 9F at 7AM.
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When I went through Alton Bay this afternoon there was still Ice. Don't know if it will make through the night with all the rain. Amazed it lasted with all the wind we had. My house was creaking. "Course that could have been my ol' bones instead.
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We drove through Alton Bay this afternoon and the ice didn't extend out as far as the bandstand anymore. It seems the ice between the bandstand and Sandy Point had melted or broken up in the wind during the past couple days.
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Ice in Alton Bay this morning is all the way out to Echo Point, and completely across from shore to shore.
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And here are some more Alton ice pictures from this morning.
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Just one day....what a dif one day can make....yesterday the Cat-Bear passage had almost zero ice....and today it is iced all the way across....with zig-zaggy ice formations....just like that famous ice bridge between Russia and Alaska!
Don't ya know, I still have not removed my boat...so's if you see someone armed with an ice chopper and a big hammer chopp'n away at that Cat-Bear ice tomorrow in a 16' Alumacraft.....that will be me. Have not started the outboard even once since about April 10, so getting through the ice will probably be secondary to getting the engine started. Hey....some bad habits just never change? ![]()
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Thanks for the pic's!!!!!!!!!!
aaAAHHhhh I miss being there.......... sorry to go off topic,...How can some of the docks in the previous pictures withstand the ice without damage. Without any experience on this, I thought they had to be lifted/removed, or bubblers had to keep the ice from crushing the legs or supports. I'm just curious, thanks for any answers. |
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So are we calling this "Ice In"?
Cause if you look at the first post in my thread.....Welllllllllll...... http://winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11137 |
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Looking at the BearCam, it looks like there's enough open water to get to Shep Brown's by going around the outside of Bear Island, via the Bear-Mark Island Passage. The Cattle-Bear passage is totally booked up with about 1/4 mile sheet ice.
Y-Landing to Pine Isl is iced. Beyond Pine and out to Bear it was look'n like open water as of yesterday. Anyone know about the open water condition of the nwz at the BearCam? And, still don't know about getting the outboard started? Had to purchase a new fuel line because the primer bulb was hard as a rock from being left in the boat all summer with no gas inside the line, or something. ![]()
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Not for nothing, Less, but just what do you have a boat in the water for if you don't ever use it?? It hasn't been run since April???? Did you really expect it to start? Sheesh! BT
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Turning the ignition key today at about 2-pm for the first time since last April 10 not only started the outboard right up, but also startled a large bald eagle that had been perched in a neighboring huge pine tree. I was very astounded hearing the engine just start right up like that! The engine never-ever missed a beat and it ran like an engine should run the whole trip.....perfectly....no-fool'n! Watching that big eagle silently fly across to Bear Island made me think it was some type of an Indian good luck omen or something. The openings between Mark and Bear, and Timber and Mark, all looked iced, plus there was some free floating ice around Buoy 3, so I headed around Timber & the witches enroute to the boat ramp at Shep Browns. Crossing between Bear and Jolly(? or Round ?) there was about 300-yards of sheet ice, which was just a warm up for what lay ahead. Crossing around the north end of Bear, there must have been about 1000-yards of sheet ice on the east side of Bear, and I was so relieved to make it through that I felt compelled to make a touchdown sign in a big triumph as I passed the BearCam location. That open water up ahead was looking real good! Am I crazy? That's a good question! It certainly was something that I do not plan to do again, slicing through all that ice like that. How thick was the ice? I have no clue, but it must have been pretty thin, like maybe 1/2" or something because the 16' V-hull aluminum boat w/ a 40-hp powered right through it all, not too much problem. That was the first time I ever did that so I didn't know what to expect, but definitely will not be doing that again anytime soon. That was sick! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Yeah right. Next winter we will be calling the Russkies over with this bad boy,
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That was most likely between Bear and Treasure Islands as I headed over to Treasure because it looked like it had either a smaller ice area, or hopefully a no-ice area to be boating through. Treasure has the all-wood, old fashioned looking bridge. Mentioning Round Island was just a boo-boo on my part. Jolly is easily identified with its' dock building and nameplate, and the dining building at Camp Lawrence on Bear is another easy id. That was one scary ride, yesterday.....good grief! Was very happy to get into the open water close to Shep Brown's take-out ramp, and hop on my bicycle for a fast peddle home to get the truck & trailer!
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The worst damage occurs when the ice is not solid, such as in spring. It breaks apart and moves around. Springtime often brings free-floating ice that slams into docks. There is nothing a bubbler can do about that. If the incoming ice is sizeable enough, you can't even divert it with a metal pipe. I've tried that, and found myself sliding backwards in standing position on the dock, pushed by the momentum of the ice against the pipe I was using to try to fend off the ice. In April 2007 we had decent ice cover on the lake when along came the Patriots Day storm with sustained 45 mph winds and gusts to 64 mph. The ice broke apart and slammed many docks, taking out large pilings. An interesting thing to note about that event is that docks with bubblers suffered the most damage. Docks that were solidly iced-in got much less damage. The ice around those docks acted as a wall of equal substance that fended off the "incoming battering" ice. Bubbler areas became open water very early in the storm. At the height of the storm, those open-water areas allowed for waves filled with chunks of drifting ice that took a huge toll on whatever docks were in the clear area. There are also many location factors to consider when you decide how much you want to worry about a dock in winter. South-facing shores need very little protection because the sun hits them with increasing amounts of light all winter long (the least sunlight of the year occurs on the first day of winter in December, after which the days start getting longer and the sun gets higher in the sky.) Sun heats shoreline and shallow-submerged rocks. The rocks then heat the water & ice around them. Many parts of the lake are exposed to the weather, which gives the ice a shorter life span than it gets in sheltered areas like coves and bays. Ice behavior varies from location to location on this lake, just like the weather does. There are some shores that routinely take a beating from the ice. In others, the ice behaves itself most of the time. In exposed areas, the time to worry about dock damage is spring when the ice starts floating around. In sheltered coves and on north-facing shores that get no sunlight even on sunny days, ice may grow even during the daylight hours, which will make it behave altogether differently. On the south-facing shores, it takes near-record cold weather to get ice to grow in the daytime, and it's not uncommon to see it melting back from rocks as early as February. |
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the ice on the front of the boathouse was extensive last year. and it broke a board in the middle of the dock. The lake is not deep at our boathouse, in fact it is a job to get the boat in the boathouse after Oct 1, as there is not enough water to float a canoe in. But the dock which is about 4' from the water is pushing up on the base of the dock, actually looks like its trying to lift it.
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CanisLupusArctos, Thankyou for the very thorough explanation, I appreciate it.
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Spent the afternoon taking the dock all apart and getting it ready for my one-person removal job tomorrow, unless I am a no-show! Hey, finding reliable dock removal people is not-so-easy, especially when you are too cheap to hire someone and go do-it-all-yourself!
Anyway, all the ice from last Sunday is totally gonzo, having returned to its' liquid state. Bear to Mark, Mark to Timber, Cattle Landing to Bear: totally ice free and all open water. Most surprising to me was the meltdown of all the 1/4 to 1/2 mile ice build-up in the Cat-Bear passage. It all got melted away in the past three days.........holy-smokes.....that's a surprise! What-a-wacky-wintuh?
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Any views of ice conditions on 19 Mile Bay?
Wish there was a webcam there. Thanksd |
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It was ice covered on Thursday with snow on the ice. However it was fairly warm yesterday, but I haven't been by. I am off work today and did not see it.
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Thanks for the update. But didn't expect the blizzard; so much for skating this New Year's day.
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Twice now since Friday, I've seen a snowmobile on the Moultonborough Cam - is it that safe already?
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I started this thread on the 7th. As of today the Wolfeboro bay has frozen and then unfrozen. Today it was pretty much wide open except near the Brewster Boat House side. The wind was whipping up the water pretty good today. I could see the chop farther out. Now they say maybe hitting 40. May be a while before we actually freeze completely in.
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"I rain on this parade every year at this time. The water temperature is still hovering around 40 degrees. It will be some time before ice of any significance happens.....sorry." Not much has changed although the water temp has dropped a bit. It's still going to be a while....probably mid January at the earliest. The tell tale sign that will signal the "process" is Island Girl's "Ice In Watch" ![]() ![]() BT
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For the second time now, the passage between Cattle Landing and Bear Island is frozen solid, although it looks like it is thin enough to be traversed in a small, light weight boat. Ya never know....just maybe....a waterskier could be towed right through the one half mile of thin solid ice.....that would be interesting!
Saw a large construction barge today loaded with a yellow Caterpillar machine, moving along from around the Mark-Bear passage, and headed towards either the Weirs or Meredith Bay. Hey, it's never too late for construction!
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