Bill Filed to Modify and Enhance Speed Limits in NH

[fatlazyless]

howdi....hey check out today's www.cmonitor.com and its' front page "Brakes on boat speed limits" top story along with a boat & water photo....the photo looks like it was taken from an airplane or maybe from the Harry Hood "drink milk" blimp??? Ok, enough with that and on to some highly relevant and intelligent speed limits comments....I'm think'n good today but ain't got nuth'n to say now?

Ok, but here's someone with an intelligent e-mail comment from the bottom of this Concord Monitor front page article.
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Marine Speed by hoytbrook 12/02/10 6:38am

As a cottage owner on a small lake and former board member of our protective association, I have personally witnessed some terrifying incidents related to speed. Nearby Sunapee Lake has also had a lot of dangerous boat activity. Lack of recorded arrests and fines is probably due to a lack of manpower on a small staff of marine police. If the new Republican majority thinks that taking away the speed limits in support of a hazy definition of safe operation, they ought to spend a weekend day/night on one of our larger lakes. I wonder if these people have grandchildren who have been endangered by reckless boaters!!!

[VtSteve]

Over the past 10 years, Barrett said, there have been three boating deaths attributed to speed. One of those is the 2008 death of Stephanie Beaudoin of Meredith, who died when a boat piloted by her best friend, Erica Blizzard, crashed into Diamond Island on Lake Winnipesaukee in the dark, early morning hours. State authorities estimate Blizzard was going at least 33 mph.

This year, Barrett said, the Marine Patrol issued eight tickets for speeding on the lake, resulting in court-issued fines in the vicinity of $100.

"That's testimony to the fact that there aren't a lot of people that go that fast," Barrett said.

Barrett said speed on the lake wasn't a problem before the limits were passed, and the small number of violators suggests to him that it is still a minor concern.

Well we knew that. Interestingly enough, I believe all three accidents (at least 2), were too fast for conditions. I also take exception to people that seem to think the CG rule is vague or hard to interpret.

Any boater that can't understand CG Rule 6, should not be on the water. Period.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Ok, but here's someone with an intelligent e-mail comment from the bottom of this Concord Monitor front page article.

That's funny that you find a comment intelligent. Here is something from the actual article that I found "intelligent":

Originally Posted by David Barrett, who oversees the state Marine Patrol as head of the Division of Safety Services

"That's testimony to the fact that there aren't a lot of people that go that fast"

and

Barrett said speed on the lake wasn't a problem before the limits were passed

[sunset on the dock]

There seems to be a lot of press today about the SL like the following in the LDS. I feel beneath the humorous exterior of this letter is a clever and apt analogy as to why the new SL legislation may have trouble gaining much traction in Concord....that and the fact that our reps and senators, as I understand it, have become weary so many years of arguing this legislation. The letter underscores the "doublespeak" that has been alluded to in this forum. JMO

Letters
Is the 'safe' boating crowd really trying to repeal DWI law?
Dec 02, 2010 12:00 am
To the editor,

Any truth to the rumor that the "safe" boating gang is filing another "safety enhancement" bill, this one to repeal our Boating-While-Intoxicated law, eliminating defined blood alcohol limits in favor of allowing boaters to "use their own judgment and drink till they don't think they are sober enough to helm a boat, according to prevailing conditions"?

Ed Chase

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

There seems to be a lot of press today about the SL like the following in the LDS. I feel beneath the humorous exterior of this letter is a clever and apt analogy as to why the new SL legislation may have trouble gaining much traction in Concord....that and the fact that our reps and senators, as I understand it, have become weary so many years of arguing this legislation. The letter underscores the "doublespeak" that has been alluded to in this forum. JMO

Letters
Is the 'safe' boating crowd really trying to repeal DWI law?
Dec 02, 2010 12:00 am
To the editor,

Any truth to the rumor that the "safe" boating gang is filing another "safety enhancement" bill, this one to repeal our Boating-While-Intoxicated law, eliminating defined blood alcohol limits in favor of allowing boaters to "use their own judgment and drink till they don't think they are sober enough to helm a boat, according to prevailing conditions"?

Ed Chase

BIM recently wrote another in a series of derogatory posts, the last one deriding some of us for saying bad things about him. The above is yet more proof why some of us continue to do so. The entire boating community seems to be doublespeak to you guys. Yet whenever you post, it's not true.

One would think that someone who had claimed to be not only a sailor, but also spent 1,000 or 2,000 hours a season on the water would know something about CG Rule 6.

Instead, he chooses to accuse others of being wild drunks. Nice guy your friend "Ed". I still wonder why the papers allow him to use so many different names

Try to clean up the act boys.

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Any truth to the rumor that the "safe" boating gang is filing another "safety enhancement" bill, this one to repeal our Boating-While-Intoxicated law, eliminating defined blood alcohol limits in favor of allowing boaters to "use their own judgment and drink till they don't think they are sober enough to helm a boat, according to prevailing conditions"?

Ed Chase

A "rumor" apparently created by Ed Chase himself? This is similar bad behavior that TB was caught engaging in. Notice how he never gave a proper response to the insane accusations he posted.

Now who was it that posted a huge thread containing a list of what he said were mean things? That's correct, the very same person that posts lies like the above.

Hint: That's why some of us say things like that about you

These aren't just little white lies meant to be funny, nope, their Giant Big Whoppers of lies that are made up by people fearing that they will be uncovered again. Thankfully, the Big Whopper Lies are being stated in public.

[winni83]

Is there any truth to the rumor that Elchase, Bearislandmoose, Ed Chase and Warren Clark are all one and the same person and that in post number 235 in the Barber’s Pole thread, one Bearislandmoose stated unequivocally that:

“In fact, I have apparently been the only one on this forum using his real name until now.”

It seems that in addition to being factually challenged, this person is also identity challenged.

[jarhead0341]

Originally Posted by winni83

Is there any truth to the rumor that Elchase, Bearislandmoose, Ed Chase and Warren Clark are all one and the same person and that in post number 235 in the Barber’s Pole thread, one Bearislandmoose stated unequivocally that:

“In fact, I have apparently been the only one on this forum using his real name until now.”

It seems that in addition to being factually challenged, this person is also identity challenged.

you can probably add slingshotengaged as another name...... if it counts from another forum

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

There seems to be a lot of press today about the SL like the following in the LDS. I feel beneath the humorous exterior of this letter is a clever and apt analogy as to why the new SL legislation may have trouble gaining much traction in Concord....that and the fact that our reps and senators, as I understand it, have become weary so many years of arguing this legislation. The letter underscores the "doublespeak" that has been alluded to in this forum. JMO

Letters
Is the 'safe' boating crowd really trying to repeal DWI law?
Dec 02, 2010 12:00 am
To the editor,

Any truth to the rumor that the "safe" boating gang is filing another "safety enhancement" bill, this one to repeal our Boating-While-Intoxicated law, eliminating defined blood alcohol limits in favor of allowing boaters to "use their own judgment and drink till they don't think they are sober enough to helm a boat, according to prevailing conditions"?

Ed Chase

The editor of Laconia Daily Sun should have enough journalistic integrity to refuse to print such manure. I have a lot of business aquaintances who advertise in the Sun, so if they keep this up I will urge these people to stop advertising in this rag. While they're at it, I suppose SBONH will sponsor a bill to make everyone sail and kayak naked (and why not drunk too). This will be the next embellishment by ELMOOOSECHASER! I want some of whatever MOOSEMANCHASER is smoking.

[gtagrip]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

There seems to be a lot of press today about the SL like the following in the LDS. I feel beneath the humorous exterior of this letter is a clever and apt analogy as to why the new SL legislation may have trouble gaining much traction in Concord....that and the fact that our reps and senators, as I understand it, have become weary so many years of arguing this legislation. The letter underscores the "doublespeak" that has been alluded to in this forum. JMO

Letters
Is the 'safe' boating crowd really trying to repeal DWI law?
Dec 02, 2010 12:00 am
To the editor,

Any truth to the rumor that the "safe" boating gang is filing another "safety enhancement" bill, this one to repeal our Boating-While-Intoxicated law, eliminating defined blood alcohol limits in favor of allowing boaters to "use their own judgment and drink till they don't think they are sober enough to helm a boat, according to prevailing conditions"?

Ed Chase

You can't just make this stuff up. Oh wait, I guess you can!

[VtSteve]

What did our gang of merry little SL supporters do in recent days.

They lied about me sending a PM (by now, most know no such thing happened)

They lied about me threatening them (again, nope)

They lied about me being this weird gun owner (nope, none of them)
(They also continue to lie on another site about this, posted as fact. Thanks El

Now they lie on this forum and in others, , and in the newspaper, about a safe boating organization supporting a new law about eliminating BUI laws.

(This is particularly interesting since a famous accident on Winni occurred after the perpetrator was drinking to excess in a WINFAB founder's bar. All receipts turned up missing).

I repeat BIM. Exactly what was incorrect about labeling many of you as liars? Yes, that's exactly what I call people in person that engage in this sort of behavior.

Interesting lives these people live.


So there's what I have guys, just through today, and it's an abbreviated version.

[Bearislandmoose]

Originally Posted by VtSteve

What did our gang of merry little SL supporters do in recent days.

They lied about me sending a PM (by now, most know no such thing happened)

They lied about me threatening them (again, nope)

They lied about me being this weird gun owner (nope, none of them)
(They also continue to lie on another site about this, posted as fact. Thanks El

Now they lie on this forum and in others, , and in the newspaper, about a safe boating organization supporting a new law about eliminating BUI laws.

(This is particularly interesting since a famous accident on Winni occurred after the perpetrator was drinking to excess in a WINFAB founder's bar. All receipts turned up missing).

I repeat BIM. Exactly what was incorrect about labeling many of you as liars? Yes, that's exactly what I call people in person that engage in this sort of behavior.

Interesting lives these people live.


So there's what I have guys, just through today, and it's an abbreviated version.

Oh shut up already. Go back to Vermont and worry about Lake Champlain. (I really wish the moderator would let this one through...I'm just so sick of this guy's garbage). Blah blah blah blah blah. Put a sock in it.