SB464 Hearing Yesterday

hazelnut · 03-12-2010, 06:32 PM

It was so great to meet you Rattlesnake Gal. Yes I was forced to take a personal day yesterday in order to testify.

I am actually so glad that I did. I've ticked one more item off of my "Bucket List." This year I have been fortunate to actually serve on a Jury for a one week case involving a Mayhem and Assault & Battery charge and now I have had the privilege of speaking in front of a senate committee.

I urge everyone reading this to take the time some day and speak at a public hearing regarding a cause that is important to you, no matter what side of the coin you are on. One thing that was evident yesterday is that people are extremely passionate about this issue on both sides. (As if we didn't know that already)

Thanks to all that spoke and I've received many nice comments and emails regarding my testimony and I thank you for that. Overall it was a very positive experience. DoTheMath, Rattlesnake Gal and I stayed until the bitter end and it was a LONG day!!!

DoTheMath · 03-13-2010, 02:18 PM

Good to meet you too RG! I thought the day went really well, good testimony from both sides of the issue and 99% of it seemed to be well thought-out and presented.

HN is right - he, RG and myself did stay and see it through to the very end - it was even worth the $5 parking ticket I got!

I hope this continues to be a process that we can see through to the end and offers up an end result that makes the lake enjoyable for all!

Cheers -

DTM

LIforrelaxin · 03-15-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hazelnut

... it was a LONG day!!!

I am sure it was.... Our governmental process is a wonderful thing.... However it tends to be lengthy and dry, with all the formalities and procedures....

mbhoward · 03-17-2010, 03:14 PM

All,

I just received an email today from the AMC urging me to support the bill (!). I've reproduced the message below in its entirety. They obviously don't know me as I am against any speed limits. Still, I am a little saddened that the AMC would shotgun out a message like this to it's members in NH. At least, I think that's how I got this email. I am an AMC member and have even stayed in the lodges with a friend. Overall, I like and support the organization but I REALLY don't like this. Clearly the troops are being mobilized.

Mark

This message is reproduced without any modifications or edits. A simple cut and paste so please don't yell at or blame me for what they say.

===============

Ask your State Senator to Support SB 464
Dear Mark,

The New Hampshire State Senate will soon be voting on a bill, SB 464, to make permanent the 45/25 mph speed limits on Lake Winnipesaukee that was in effect last summer (2009), and will be in effect this summer (2010), but is scheduled to expire in January 2011.

Summer 2009 showed that the 45/25 mph speed limits do, indeed, work. Many more kayaks were seen on Lake Winnipesaukee, and many residents expressed feeling safer and enjoying their time on the lake more. Most boats abided by the speed limits, and no major speed-related accidents occurred. Making the speed limits permanent will only enhance compliance, as more boaters will know about and expect the limits, and users of the lake—including tourists, campers, and, of course, families—will have certainty that the lake will be a safer place to recreate.

If you have an experience of how the speed limits improved your experience of the lake this past summer, please email or call your State Senator today. Your personal story is the most effective and persuasive information your Senator can receive. But even if you don’t have a personal story, please take the time to email or call your State Senator in support of SB 464. Here is some information you might find helpful:

⋅SB 464 is supported by the NH Camp Directors Association, 12 marinas, and thousands of Lake Winnipesaukee users and residents;
⋅Speed kills, be it on a highway or on a lake. New Hampshire has speed limits on its highways, its 7000 miles of motorized trails (for ATVs, dirt bikes, and snowmobiles), and many of its lakes and ponds. Speed limits on Lake Winnipesaukee will help protect the resource as well as the recreational experience for a broader spectrum of users;
⋅Lake conditions are often unpredictable and sometimes chaotic. Boats have no brakes, headlights, or side mirrors. Unlike our highways, lakes do not have lane markings or traffic signals. Instead, lakes do have constantly changing conditions: waves, wind, and often compromised visibility. Traffic goes in all directions. As on roads in town centers, or on multi-use trails, where many different types of users are side-by-side, the 45/25 mph speed limits allow a safer coexistence of all lake enthusiasts.

(Signed by Susan Arnold)

Director of Conservation
Appalachian Mountain Club

Seaplane Pilot · 03-17-2010, 04:54 PM

Why don't they stick to the purpose of their charter? I'm telling them to cancel my membership - TODAY.

DEJ · 03-17-2010, 04:58 PM

I thought the speed limit discussion was closed? Webmaster Don, before I respond I will ask, are you going to allow responses?

mbhoward · 03-17-2010, 05:45 PM

I am the poster of the AMC email.

My purpose was to inform, not inflame. If anyone took offense, I apologize as that was not the intent. The initial post seemed to talk about the number of people that went to Concord to speak on the topic. I thought it would contribute to tell everyone about another large organization who was mobilizing its members. I stated my position on the topic (against) in the spirit of disclosure.

Mark

03-17-2010, 04:54 PM	#5
Seaplane Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,177 Thanks: 664 Thanked 943 Times in 368 Posts	What next - Al Gore joins WinnFabs? Why don't they stick to the purpose of their charter? I'm telling them to cancel my membership - TODAY.

03-12-2010, 06:32 PM	#1
hazelnut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,348 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 508 Thanked 462 Times in 162 Posts	It was so great to meet you Rattlesnake Gal. Yes I was forced to take a personal day yesterday in order to testify. I am actually so glad that I did. I've ticked one more item off of my "Bucket List." This year I have been fortunate to actually serve on a Jury for a one week case involving a Mayhem and Assault & Battery charge and now I have had the privilege of speaking in front of a senate committee. I urge everyone reading this to take the time some day and speak at a public hearing regarding a cause that is important to you, no matter what side of the coin you are on. One thing that was evident yesterday is that people are extremely passionate about this issue on both sides. (As if we didn't know that already) Thanks to all that spoke and I've received many nice comments and emails regarding my testimony and I thank you for that. Overall it was a very positive experience. DoTheMath, Rattlesnake Gal and I stayed until the bitter end and it was a LONG day!!!

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03-13-2010, 02:18 PM	#2
DoTheMath Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MA / Moultonborough Posts: 146 Thanks: 46 Thanked 43 Times in 18 Posts	Good to meet you too RG! I thought the day went really well, good testimony from both sides of the issue and 99% of it seemed to be well thought-out and presented. HN is right - he, RG and myself did stay and see it through to the very end - it was even worth the $5 parking ticket I got! I hope this continues to be a process that we can see through to the end and offers up an end result that makes the lake enjoyable for all! Cheers - DTM

03-17-2010, 03:14 PM	#4
mbhoward Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 34 Thanks: 33 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	All, I just received an email today from the AMC urging me to support the bill (!). I've reproduced the message below in its entirety. They obviously don't know me as I am against any speed limits. Still, I am a little saddened that the AMC would shotgun out a message like this to it's members in NH. At least, I think that's how I got this email. I am an AMC member and have even stayed in the lodges with a friend. Overall, I like and support the organization but I REALLY don't like this. Clearly the troops are being mobilized. Mark This message is reproduced without any modifications or edits. A simple cut and paste so please don't yell at or blame me for what they say. =============== Ask your State Senator to Support SB 464 Dear Mark, The New Hampshire State Senate will soon be voting on a bill, SB 464, to make permanent the 45/25 mph speed limits on Lake Winnipesaukee that was in effect last summer (2009), and will be in effect this summer (2010), but is scheduled to expire in January 2011. Summer 2009 showed that the 45/25 mph speed limits do, indeed, work. Many more kayaks were seen on Lake Winnipesaukee, and many residents expressed feeling safer and enjoying their time on the lake more. Most boats abided by the speed limits, and no major speed-related accidents occurred. Making the speed limits permanent will only enhance compliance, as more boaters will know about and expect the limits, and users of the lake—including tourists, campers, and, of course, families—will have certainty that the lake will be a safer place to recreate. If you have an experience of how the speed limits improved your experience of the lake this past summer, please email or call your State Senator today. Your personal story is the most effective and persuasive information your Senator can receive. But even if you don’t have a personal story, please take the time to email or call your State Senator in support of SB 464. Here is some information you might find helpful: ⋅SB 464 is supported by the NH Camp Directors Association, 12 marinas, and thousands of Lake Winnipesaukee users and residents; ⋅Speed kills, be it on a highway or on a lake. New Hampshire has speed limits on its highways, its 7000 miles of motorized trails (for ATVs, dirt bikes, and snowmobiles), and many of its lakes and ponds. Speed limits on Lake Winnipesaukee will help protect the resource as well as the recreational experience for a broader spectrum of users; ⋅Lake conditions are often unpredictable and sometimes chaotic. Boats have no brakes, headlights, or side mirrors. Unlike our highways, lakes do not have lane markings or traffic signals. Instead, lakes do have constantly changing conditions: waves, wind, and often compromised visibility. Traffic goes in all directions. As on roads in town centers, or on multi-use trails, where many different types of users are side-by-side, the 45/25 mph speed limits allow a safer coexistence of all lake enthusiasts. (Signed by Susan Arnold) Director of Conservation Appalachian Mountain Club

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03-17-2010, 04:58 PM	#6
DEJ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 553 Thanks: 526 Thanked 314 Times in 155 Posts	I thought the speed limit discussion was closed? Webmaster Don, before I respond I will ask, are you going to allow responses?

03-17-2010, 05:45 PM	#7
mbhoward Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 34 Thanks: 33 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	I am the poster of the AMC email. My purpose was to inform, not inflame. If anyone took offense, I apologize as that was not the intent. The initial post seemed to talk about the number of people that went to Concord to speak on the topic. I thought it would contribute to tell everyone about another large organization who was mobilizing its members. I stated my position on the topic (against) in the spirit of disclosure. Mark

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