How about THIS for a new Lakes Region attraction!!!

Airwaves · 11-24-2009, 06:13 PM

The U-S Navy announces the availability of the Aircraft Carrier John F Kennedy for donation!

This'nThat · 11-24-2009, 07:25 PM

Sorry, no can do. Won't fit into my dock.

Sal · 11-24-2009, 07:32 PM

Challenge for all the physics/math whizzes who worked out the curvature of the earth problem, a while ago:
Let's assume the existence of a humongous helicopter to pick the carrier up and fly it to Winni.
How much would the surface of the lake rise when the ship was gently plopped down in a deep part of the lake?

NoBozo · 11-24-2009, 08:14 PM

In the early ninety's, The USS Iowa (BB-61), one of THE Four Largest Battleships ever built by the US during WWII was mothballed in Newport, RI for awhile. Prior to that (1987) I had the opportunity to sail aboard Iowa and observe her capabilities. Very impressive. Her sister ships were USS Missouri, USS Wisconsin, and USS New Jersey.

The city of San Fransisco wanted the IOWA for a Museum. One (or more) of their high powered female Senators lobbied to get the IOWA, and raised over $3m dollars to have the IOWA towed over to SF from Newport. It was done. Problem was...when the IOWA got there, the SF Mayor..or whatever his title was... said NO. This is a WAR MACHINE and we don't want it here. So the IOWA was relegated to an 80 mile tow up the river to another place.

Don't want no stinkin Warships in OUR town.

Just sayin. NB

dog paw · 11-24-2009, 08:22 PM

Oh how cool it would be to ride a F16 off the flight deck of that bad boy

OCDACTIVE · 11-24-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dog paw

Oh how cool it would be to ride a F16 off the flight deck of that bad boy

My best friend is currently a LT CMD and navy test pilot. He told me funny stories from that ship. It was well past its prime to put it mildly.

For example: He told me stories of the showers only turning on for a matter of seconds then off for 20 seconds then back on. He said you only could pray that no call came on while you were in the shower because you would be suiting up covered in soap.

It was the last desiel carrier left.

He just finished testing and syncing in the new George Bush's cables and landing systems this past summer. Incredilble to hear what these guys go through.

Ok sorry, back on topic:

Although Lake Winni is huge The carrier would take up too much room. Other then the logistics of it, getting it their etc. What town / bay do you think it would fit in? I can't think of one.

NoBozo · 11-24-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

It was the last desiel carrier left.

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Sorry OCD: There were NO Diesel Cariers. All the older Cariers, (Designated CV), and almost every surface ship (WW2+) from destroyers on up, had 1200 PSI Steam Turbines.

All the latest Carriers are disignated CV(N)... for Nuclear.

All the latest Destroyers are GAS Turbines.

NB

OCDACTIVE · 11-24-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Sorry OCD: There were NO Diesel Cariers. All the older Cariers, (Designated CV), and almost every surface ship (WW2+) from destroyers on up, had 1200 PSI Steam Turbines.

All the latest Carriers are disignated CV(N)... for Nuclear.

All the latest Destroyers are GAS Turbines.

NB

Thank you... I stand corrected. I knew it was the last carrier that was not nuclear...

Have a great thanksgiving.

NoBozo · 11-24-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

Thank you... I stand corrected. I knew it was the last carrier that was not nuclear...

Have a great thanksgiving.

That's OK OCD. I'm Ex NAVY and live up the road a few miles from the Naval Base Newport for the past 40+ years. You have a good holiday as well.

NB

Airwaves · 11-24-2009, 09:17 PM

She's only a little less than 5 times the size of the Mount...it'll fit!

Rattlesnake Guy · 11-24-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal

Challenge for all the physics/math whizzes who worked out the curvature of the earth problem, a while ago:
Let's assume the existence of a humongous helicopter to pick the carrier up and fly it to Winni.
How much would the surface of the lake rise when the ship was gently plopped down in a deep part of the lake?

Fully Loaded at 78145 tons the water would rise just under 1 inch.
0.93 inches

It's a big ship and an even bigger lake.

Flyfisha · 11-25-2009, 06:33 AM

She would make a heck of a bridge between Sleeper and Rattlesnake!!

Happy Gourmand · 11-25-2009, 07:56 AM

OK, so who has a dock that's deeper than 40'? That carries draws about 38' of water depending on its load. And I doubt you could get it going fast enough on the lake for air ops!

gtxrider · 11-25-2009, 08:31 AM

In place of repowering the Mount it could have been replaced by a carrier...

brk-lnt · 11-25-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal

How much would the surface of the lake rise when the ship was gently plopped down in a deep part of the lake?

0". But, the Lakeport dam would be pretty busy for a while

Yosemite Sam · 11-25-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt

0". But, the Lakeport dam would be pretty busy for a while

Lakeport Dam would be pretty busy for a while, man that is funny!!!

Sal · 11-25-2009, 11:23 AM

Thanks, Rattlesnake Guy. I assumed it would have been a bit more (like 2 or three inches).

Grady223 · 11-25-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Sorry OCD: There were NO Diesel Cariers. All the older Cariers, (Designated CV), and almost every surface ship (WW2+) from destroyers on up, had 1200 PSI Steam Turbines.

All the latest Carriers are disignated CV(N)... for Nuclear.

All the latest Destroyers are GAS Turbines.

NB

Actually I think you are both right - the gas turbine engine (essentially a jet engine) burns kerosene or high grade diesel fuel.

NoRegrets · 11-25-2009, 12:33 PM

Staying in the theme of "coming attraction".

Sit it next to the broads. Declare it a "dive destination" for those that like to stay above the waters surface!

Rattlesnake Guy · 11-25-2009, 09:32 PM

It would make an interesting location for the next forum fest.

trfour · 11-25-2009, 10:06 PM

would be, a huge celebration at the Noonan's New Flight Center Hangar at Laconia Airport!
I dono'bout Y'all, I'm kind'a look'in forward to it!

ApS · 11-26-2009, 04:16 AM

A U.S. Navy ship recently became a tourist attraction for scuba divers and snorkelers. At half that carrier's length—it cost over $8 million just to sink that "donation" to the bottom.

Carrier USS JOHN F. KENNEDY details, and how Congress dithered in decommissioning this carrier.

SIKSUKR · 12-02-2009, 09:59 AM

Somegood suggestions here on how to use the carrier. I would make it the next island. Imagine the possibilities of this. An amusement complex complete with skydiving, miniture golf, restaurants, and a whole new area for rafting with no residents to object.

Grant · 12-02-2009, 11:29 AM

Scrub it and sink it as a dive attraction.

CrawfordCentury · 12-02-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

It would make an interesting location for the next forum fest.

If not the actual one, then maybe a cheap knock-off replica. Fun place to lollygag for a spell.

An invitation could include a photo with the caption, "Thou Shalt Idle on False Warship."

Rattlesnake Guy · 12-02-2009, 09:53 PM

Could be a bit of a wake.

Gilligan · 12-03-2009, 12:12 PM

Find some developer to rehab it. Make condos and a resort out of the ship. Imagine the taxes some local town could collect from such a place. Complete with indoor/outdoor swimming, water park and all the attractions. Useful during all seasons.

WinnDixie · 12-03-2009, 07:18 PM

Listen, Rattlesnake Guy...you keep that monstrosity out of the Mount's way, you hear???

Rattlesnake Guy · 12-03-2009, 07:31 PM

Absolutely. The grand old lady goes where she wants.

11-24-2009, 06:13 PM	#1
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	How about THIS for a new Lakes Region attraction!!! The U-S Navy announces the availability of the Aircraft Carrier John F Kennedy for donation!

11-24-2009, 07:25 PM	#2
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	Juuuuust a bit too big Sorry, no can do. Won't fit into my dock.

11-24-2009, 08:14 PM	#4
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	OFF TOPIC..A Little In the early ninety's, The USS Iowa (BB-61), one of THE Four Largest Battleships ever built by the US during WWII was mothballed in Newport, RI for awhile. Prior to that (1987) I had the opportunity to sail aboard Iowa and observe her capabilities. Very impressive. Her sister ships were USS Missouri, USS Wisconsin, and USS New Jersey. The city of San Fransisco wanted the IOWA for a Museum. One (or more) of their high powered female Senators lobbied to get the IOWA, and raised over $3m dollars to have the IOWA towed over to SF from Newport. It was done. Problem was...when the IOWA got there, the SF Mayor..or whatever his title was... said NO. This is a WAR MACHINE and we don't want it here. So the IOWA was relegated to an 80 mile tow up the river to another place. Don't want no stinkin Warships in OUR town. Just sayin. NB

11-25-2009, 07:56 AM	#13
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Docking OK, so who has a dock that's deeper than 40'? That carries draws about 38' of water depending on its load. And I doubt you could get it going fast enough on the lake for air ops!

11-25-2009, 08:31 AM	#14
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	don't repower the Mount In place of repowering the Mount it could have been replaced by a carrier...

11-24-2009, 07:32 PM	#3
Sal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 311 Thanks: 103 Thanked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Challenge for all the physics/math whizzes who worked out the curvature of the earth problem, a while ago: Let's assume the existence of a humongous helicopter to pick the carrier up and fly it to Winni. How much would the surface of the lake rise when the ship was gently plopped down in a deep part of the lake?

11-24-2009, 08:22 PM	#5
dog paw Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Oh how cool it would be to ride a F16 off the flight deck of that bad boy

11-24-2009, 09:17 PM	#10
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	She's only a little less than 5 times the size of the Mount...it'll fit!

11-25-2009, 06:33 AM	#12
Flyfisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rattlesnake Island Posts: 140 Thanks: 58 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	She would make a heck of a bridge between Sleeper and Rattlesnake!!

11-25-2009, 11:23 AM	#17
Sal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 311 Thanks: 103 Thanked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Thanks, Rattlesnake Guy. I assumed it would have been a bit more (like 2 or three inches).

11-25-2009, 12:33 PM	#19
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	Staying in the theme of "coming attraction". Sit it next to the broads. Declare it a "dive destination" for those that like to stay above the waters surface!

11-25-2009, 09:32 PM	#20
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	It would make an interesting location for the next forum fest.

11-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#21
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	A More Likely Scenario... would be, a huge celebration at the Noonan's New Flight Center Hangar at Laconia Airport! I dono'bout Y'all, I'm kind'a look'in forward to it! __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

11-26-2009, 04:16 AM	#22
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,939 Thanks: 2,209 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	Dithering a Diving Donation's Decommissioning... A U.S. Navy ship recently became a tourist attraction for scuba divers and snorkelers. At half that carrier's length—it cost over $8 million just to sink that "donation" to the bottom. Carrier USS JOHN F. KENNEDY details, and how Congress dithered in decommissioning this carrier.

12-02-2009, 09:59 AM	#23
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	JFK Island Somegood suggestions here on how to use the carrier. I would make it the next island. Imagine the possibilities of this. An amusement complex complete with skydiving, miniture golf, restaurants, and a whole new area for rafting with no residents to object. __________________ SIKSUKR

12-02-2009, 11:29 AM	#24
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,500 Thanks: 376 Thanked 230 Times in 124 Posts	Scrub it and sink it as a dive attraction. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

12-02-2009, 09:53 PM	#26
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Could be a bit of a wake. Attached Images

12-03-2009, 12:12 PM	#27
Gilligan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Bay State Posts: 119 Thanks: 8 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts	The next resort Find some developer to rehab it. Make condos and a resort out of the ship. Imagine the taxes some local town could collect from such a place. Complete with indoor/outdoor swimming, water park and all the attractions. Useful during all seasons. __________________

12-03-2009, 07:18 PM	#28
WinnDixie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 239 Thanks: 44 Thanked 75 Times in 17 Posts	Toooot!! Listen, Rattlesnake Guy...you keep that monstrosity out of the Mount's way, you hear???

12-03-2009, 07:31 PM	#29
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Absolutely. The grand old lady goes where she wants.