"Social Distancing" at the Lake

[The Real BigGuy]

So, anyway you can to get those homeless “eyesores” out of your pure conservative lily white world! How about helping them find a job, or a place to live?

Sometimes people just suck!


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[rsmlp]

My son is director of computational biology at a biotech firm in Cambridge, MA so this stuff is literally his wheelhouse. Allow me to shed some light on some Covid math.

Firstly, there's PLENTY of data to extrapolate conclusions from BUT also plenty of variables. Variables make math conclusions iffy. The number one variable is "how many people in the US are infected with Covid"? We don't know since testing cannot possibly collect all the precise data but it is undoubtedly FACTORS greater than the 100K reported thus far. We DO know number of deaths caused directly by Covid; 1704 as of latest data collection. Please not a wrote DIRECTLY as that will come into play shortly.

The simple math is 1704/104000 or about 1.6% BUT that is indeed overstating the death rate as the PRESUMED number of cases is AT LEAST 250,000 and probably higher so 1704/250000 equals about .7%. My son says that the whisper number is right around .5%.

Still pretty damn deadly. The GOOD news is children under the age of 15 or so are practically impervious to Covid. We do not know why. That said, there are healthy younger people dying from Covid but MOST deaths are older or more vulnerable people.

Short of a vaccine-which we won't see for at least a year, the ONLY way to slow down Covid is isolation. There is simply no other option. It is possible that warmer weather may reduce he spread but we don't know that either.

So America has a choice; as several on this forum and our illustrious POTUS have suggested, GO BACK TO WORK! Understand that if we go down that path that 20-50% of Americans will become infected, we will completely overwhelm our healthcare system which means that INDIRECTLY (no room at the hospital) hundreds of thousands will die and DIRECTLY (let's use a 25% infection rate and be optimistic) about 500,000 Americans will die and I would guess that's on the low side.

OR

Hunker down except for absolute essential workers for 4-6 weeks and the economy does whatever it will do but it won't be pretty either. Note that this will NOT eradicate the virus but rather slow it down.

Those are the choices.

[WinnisquamZ]

My son is director of computational biology at a biotech firm in Cambridge, MA so this stuff is literally his wheelhouse. Allow me to shed some light on some Covid math.

Firstly, there's PLENTY of data to extrapolate conclusions from BUT also plenty of variables. Variables make math conclusions iffy. The number one variable is "how many people in the US are infected with Covid"? We don't know since testing cannot possibly collect all the precise data but it is undoubtedly FACTORS greater than the 100K reported thus far. We DO know number of deaths caused directly by Covid; 1704 as of latest data collection. Please not a wrote DIRECTLY as that will come into play shortly.

The simple math is 1704/104000 or about 1.6% BUT that is indeed overstating the death rate as the PRESUMED number of cases is AT LEAST 250,000 and probably higher so 1704/250000 equals about .7%. My son says that the whisper number is right around .5%.

Still pretty damn deadly. The GOOD news is children under the age of 15 or so are practically impervious to Covid. We do not know why. That said, there are healthy younger people dying from Covid but MOST deaths are older or more vulnerable people.

Short of a vaccine-which we won't see for at least a year, the ONLY way to slow down Covid is isolation. There is simply no other option. It is possible that warmer weather may reduce he spread but we don't know that either.

So America has a choice; as several on this forum and our illustrious POTUS have suggested, GO BACK TO WORK! Understand that if we go down that path that 20-50% of Americans will become infected, we will completely overwhelm our healthcare system which means that INDIRECTLY (no room at the hospital) hundreds of thousands will die and DIRECTLY (let's use a 25% infection rate and be optimistic) about 500,000 Americans will die and I would guess that's on the low side.

OR

Hunker down except for absolute essential workers for 4-6 weeks and the economy does whatever it will do but it won't be pretty either. Note that this will NOT eradicate the virus but rather slow it down.

Those are the choices.

So we pull the band aid off now or we wait and pull it off later. Either way, it will be painful


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[Irish mist]

So, anyway you can to get those homeless “eyesores” out of your pure conservative lily white world! How about helping them find a job, or a place to live?

Sometimes people just suck!


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People like you ALWAYS get around to the race-card. It never fails.

[Mr. V]

There wasn't a homeless problem when I was growing up (baby boomer): seems to me the first time I noticed / heard of it was in the 1990's, and it mushroomed since then.

What happened to us as a country, that family no longer take care of their own?

That question was rhetorical.

[The Real BigGuy]

What “race card”? Since when did conservatives become a race? Some people will pull anything out of their butt to create controversy! I guess you’re one of the “people” I’m talking about.


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[Irish mist]

What “race card”? Since when did conservatives become a race? Some people will pull anything out of their butt to create controversy! I guess you’re one of the “people” I’m talking about.


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You left out "lily-white". Nice try.

[Mr. V]

What “race card”?

"...lily white world..."

[Mr. V]

A county jail out here on the left coast just released a couple hundred inmates well in advance of their scheduled release date due to covid-19 concerns.

[TiltonBB]

What is worse? The Corona Virus or being robbed and mugged by an ex-con on early release?

[Biggd]

What is worse? The Corona Virus or being robbed and mugged by an ex-con on early release?They are releasing non violent criminals, but it's nice to see you are trying to calm peoples fears.:rolleye1:

[The Real BigGuy]

You left out "lily-white". Nice try.



When did “lily-white” as in pure become “the race card”? I would guess that you are the ones with race issues if you are interpreting anything I said in a racial light. As Steve DiOssie said, “You’re not smart enough to put words in my mouth.”


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[Irish mist]

When did “lily-white” as in pure become “the race card”? I would guess that you are the ones with race issues if you are interpreting anything I said in a racial light. As Steve DiOssie said, “You’re not smart enough to put words in my mouth.”


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You are not fooling anyone. Your attempt to separate conservative from lily-white in post 255 when you were called out was pathetic, and a tell.

The lily-white designation added to the conservative labeling was a purposeful and common stunt to shade people on the right as racists.

As for intelligence...watching you stumble around this forum insulting and antagonizing posters these past several weeks is all I need to know about you.

[ApS]

What is worse? The Corona Virus or being robbed and mugged by an ex-con on early release?
Burglaries will be rare. ;)

[JEEPONLY]

I would suggest that phrases such as- lily white / black magic- are adjectival, not racist.

Have you ever been caught red faced?

[The Real BigGuy]

Thanks Jeeponly. I appreciate your input. Let add white wash, black as night, and yellow as the sun. Apparently political correctness has taken some people so far as parsing individual words in everyone’s sentences looking for fault. Again, I would say that negative connotations are generally generated in the reader’s minds, not necessarily in the writer’s intent. I suggest that individuals look inward before they accuse someone else. It has been said, and I believe it is a good example: people who claim they are not a racist, probably are.


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[gravy boat]

Burglaries will be rare. ;)

Burglaries will be rare.

There is a meme circulating about that - everyone is sitting at home with a firearm and enough bleach and paper towels to clean up the mess. ;)

[Biggd]

Our children have been "social distancing" for years now.
We are now seeing the effects it is having on adults.
Our moral compass is being tested and many are failing. :(
We use to say "we are turning into our parents" but I think now we are turning into our children.

[Garcia]

No wonder Gen X is so unfazed by social distancing:):):)

https://www.papercitymag.com/culture/generation-x-earns-respect-conronavirus-pandemic-stay-home/

[gwhite13]

Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republican. plus or minus 2%. Be safe don't catch the trump virus, first sign is stupidity. enjoy today

[garysanfran]

Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republican. plus or minus 2%. Be safe don't catch the trump virus, first sign is stupidity. enjoy today

I'm worried you got "the first sign"...

Probably not contagious...

[Major]

Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republican. plus or minus 2%. Be safe don't catch the trump virus, first sign is stupidity. enjoy today

I think you need a history lesson. Starting with the Civil War, Reconstruction, Segregation, Re-segregation (by Woodrow Wilson), Jim Crow, etc., the party of racism was the Democrats. HRC's idol, Robert Byrd, was the exulted cyclops of the KKK. He was in the Senate until 2010. Research what Lyndon Johnson said while returning to his ranch after signing the Civil Rights Act (which was initiated by Republicans). What you are saying is patently false. Who is the party of identity politics?

[FlyingScot]

I think you need a history lesson. Starting with the Civil War, Reconstruction, Segregation, Re-segregation (by Woodrow Wilson), Jim Crow, etc., the party of racism was the Democrats. HRC's idol, Robert Byrd, was the exulted cyclops of the KKK. He was in the Senate until 2010. Research what Lyndon Johnson said while returning to his ranch after signing the Civil Rights Act (which was initiated by Republicans). What you are saying is patently false. Who is the party of identity politics?


Agreed that there are plenty of racist Democrats, such as Byrd. But let's not throw LBJ under the same label. I don't know what he said when he got back to his ranch, but far more importantly than anything he might have said, he did champion the Civil Rights Act--at significant political cost. Richard Nixon capitalized on the backlash with his Southern Strategy, and of course, that was pretty much the end of the South for the Dems.

Given your interest in this though, doesn't it at least bug you that Trump has said a number of things that have inflamed racial tensions? Just for example--don't you wish he had not said there were good people on both sides when referring to the Charlottesville white nationalist march?

[Garcia]

Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republican. plus or minus 2%. Be safe don't catch the trump virus, first sign is stupidity. enjoy today

One of the interesting thing about racism is that almost no one identifies as a racist. Instead, all across the political spectrum, from one side to the other, people say they are not racist - but can point to those who are.

[garysanfran]

Just for example--don't you wish he had not said there were good people on both sides when referring to the Charlottesville white nationalist march?
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Obama as being "clean"?

[Major]

Agreed that there are plenty of racist Democrats, such as Byrd. But let's not throw LBJ under the same label. I don't know what he said when he got back to his ranch, but far more importantly than anything he might have said, he did champion the Civil Rights Act--at significant political cost. Richard Nixon capitalized on the backlash with his Southern Strategy, and of course, that was pretty much the end of the South for the Dems.

Given your interest in this though, doesn't it at least bug you that Trump has said a number of things that have inflamed racial tensions? Just for example--don't you wish he had not said there were good people on both sides when referring to the Charlottesville white nationalist march?

LBJ was a reluctant champion. He did it to secure votes, plain and simple. The CRA started as a republican initiative in the late 1950s.

Nothing Trump has said has bugged me. He calls thing as he sees them. Regarding Charlottesville, the other side he was referencing wasn't the white nationalists, but the first amendment supporters. There were many groups there. He has NEVER said that he supports the KKK or white nationalists.

He was on national TV for 15 years, worked with hundreds if not thousands of people. If he had any hint of racism, or is a racists, we could call on dozens of examples from this period of time. NOTHING. (As an anecdote, I know a producer of the Apprentice, who is far from conservative, who states that Trump was good to everyone, and that there was never any instances of misogynist or racist behavior.) He has been in the public light for nearly 40 years. NOTHING. These accusations are about as real as Russian collusion.

[TiltonBB]

Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republican. plus or minus 2%. Be safe don't catch the trump virus, first sign is stupidity. enjoy today

Your lack of intelligence is showing. The facts do not support your claim. Perhaps you may wish to think a little more before you post.

Hillary tried the same approach, making false claims about Republicans: How did that work out for you?

Some notable Republican progress to help minorities:

Civil Rights Act of 1960: "Eisenhower signed the GOP’s 1960 Civil Rights Act after it survived a five-day, five-hour filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats."

Desegregating schools (1957): Dwight Eisenhower "deployed the 82nd Airborne Division to desegregate Little Rock’s government schools over the strenuous resistance of Governor Orval Faubus (D., Ark.)."

Emancipation Proclamation (1863): The first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, issued an order freeing all slaves in the confederacy.

The First Asian-American U.S. Senator (1959): The first Asian-American senator, Republican Hiram Fong, was elected in Hawaii.

[garysanfran]

With a lack of intelligence.

Ignorance I associate with a lack of knowledge.

gwhite13 could increase HIS knowledge by reading some of the posts in this Forum.

From my experience, stupidity keeps more than a 6' distance from the members on this Forum, because the numbers are few.

Lot of knowledge is past through this Forum, and thanks to all those who share knowledge AND intelligence with others.

Name calling is for the intellectually vapid with no intellectual knowledge to share.

[FlyingScot]

there was never any instances of misogynist ...behavior

You know, you lose all credibility for your fair points (like Byrd was a racist) when you follow them with stuff that we all know is not true. You might Google Trump misogynistic statements, then ask a partner at your law firm what would happen to an employee who said this stuff on the job or even broadcast while not on the job.

[Major]

You know, you lose all credibility for your fair points (like Byrd was a racist) when you follow them with stuff that we all know is not true. You might Google Trump misogynistic statements, then ask a partner at your law firm what would happen to an employee who said this stuff on the job or even broadcast while not on the job.

I hate to break it to you, worst things are said in locker rooms all the time. He had a private moment with a reporter over 10 years ago. If that's all you have then you don't have much.

What he said to Billy Bush cannot be compared to saying something to an employee in a business or workplace setting. I taught and conducted presentations on workplace harassment and discrimination for years in the military. I have a lot of experience in this area of the law.

[The Real BigGuy]

But for crimes sake Major he is/was running for President. Shouldn’t the American people expect and be entitled to better from their leader? This is why, while I respect the office, I can’t respect the man!


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[4 for Boating]

Look I'm not crazy about what Trumps says and would not want to work for him (Trying to judge him on his actions and not words)

BUT - I gave up a long time ago on expecting/looking for a role model in a President.

Obama - seemed like a nice/good guy > not a big fan of his policy

George W > did not seem like the brightest bulb (No WMD's)

I mean Clinton raped a couple of woman didn't he?
I guess when he was not flying around on Epstein's private plane to the Bahamas and have a relationship with an employee in the white house.

It seems like the country has lost the ability to call balls and strikes.

[FlyingScot]

Look I'm not crazy about what Trumps says and would not want to work for him (Trying to judge him on his actions and not words)

BUT - I gave up a long time ago on expecting/looking for a role model in a President.

Obama - seemed like a nice/good guy > not a big fan of his policy

George W > did not seem like the brightest bulb (No WMD's)

I mean Clinton raped a couple of woman didn't he?
I guess when he was not flying around on Epstein's private plane to the Bahamas and have a relationship with an employee in the white house.

It seems like the country has lost the ability to call balls and strikes.

Oops--did not mean to thank you, but did mean to reply:

Obama and George W are both gentlemen, both role models on a personal basis--honest people trying to make America a better place.

Clinton is a cad, as you note.

Trump is an over-the-top misogynist. To your point about judge a person based on actions, rather than words, and to Major's question wondering if I'm only worried about locker room talk--we might all remember that Trump is being sued by over 20 different women from multiple walks of life and political perspectives. Here's a list (for those who demand more than Wikipedia, all these names are in the public record, google-able and available on other websites too):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

[4 for Boating]

I almost had my 2nd THANKS! - joke

To be clear I don't necessary disagree/dispute with the link you provided.
BUT > To also say/recognize he has not done some good things for the country would be back to my point about the inability to call balls and strikes.

Is "cad" some sort of codeword for rapist?

[VitaBene]

I almost had my 2nd THANKS! - joke

To be clear I don't necessary disagree/dispute with the link you provided.
BUT > To also say/recognize he has not done some good things for the country would be back to my point about the inability to call balls and strikes.

Is "cad" some sort of codeword for rapist?

Old school!

"If you say that a man is a cad, you mean that he treats other people, especially women, badly or unfairly. [old-fashioned] He's a scoundrel! A cad! "

[Wifi-1]

If one doesn't like their child payment, they need to go back to court to prove their position, not thumb their nose at their kids to get "free" money.

[JEEPONLY]

Burglaries will be rare.

There is a meme circulating about that - everyone is sitting at home with a firearm and enough bleach and paper towels to clean up the mess. ;)

This is supported by the news- gun inventories are depleted in many shops!
SAD.

[JEEPONLY]

If one doesn't like their child payment, they need to go back to court to prove their position, not thumb their nose at their kids to get "free" money.

What are you talking about? Who's getting free money?

Please clarify.

[Top-Water]

Intersting social distancing story on WMUR this morning.

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/panama-announces-separate-quarantine-days-for-men-and-women-to-help-combat-spread-of-covid-19/

Panama announces separate quarantine days for men and women to help combat spread of COVID-19.

[fatlazyless]

Intersting social distancing story on WMUR this morning.

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/panama-announces-separate-quarantine-days-for-men-and-women-to-help-combat-spread-of-covid-19/

Panama announces separate quarantine days for men and women to help combat spread of COVID-19.

Hey Top-Water ...... this is from Panama City, Florida ..... and this report is an April fool's day joke, type of a made up story ...... it's meant to be an April fool's joke and not a real believable news report.

It is truly FAKE NEWS ..... done for a joke, or something.

[Top-Water]

Hey Top-Water ...... this is from Panama City, Florida ..... and this report is an April fool's day joke, type of a made up story ...... it's meant to be an April fool's joke and not a real believable news report.

It is truly FAKE NEWS ..... done for a joke, or something.

You should take it to the CNN Wire and click the link Suggest a Correction

[fatlazyless]

Both the Conway Daily Sun and the Laconia Daily Sun have joke stories running for April 1.

The best joke story is in the www.conwaydailysun.com with a photo of Gov Chris Sununu and Sec Frank Edelblut surrounded by a big number of back-packs ..... starting a back-pack company .... April fools'.

Chris Sununu has hiked the entire 2100-mile Appalachian trail something like 25-years ago, so he knows his back-packs ...... dat's a lot of back-pack'n ..... walk'n from Georgia to Mt Katahdin!
.....................

Ok, so here's a March 4, 2020 CNN video report on Congressman Matt Gaetz from Florida wearing a gas mask as a way to mock legislation to provide funding to protect against the 2020 coronavirus pandemic, the Coronavirus Preparedness and Response Supplemental Appropriations Act.

www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/gaetz-coronavirus-gas-mask/index.html

How 37-year old, Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz from Florida's 1st district in the north-west Florida pan handle area that includes Panama City, thought about the coronavirus on March 4, less than one month ago.

.....and, this is not a joke.

[ApS]

Both the Conway Daily Sun and the Laconia Daily Sun have joke stories running for April 1.

The best joke story is in the www.conwaydailysun.com with a photo of Gov Chris Sununu and Sec Frank Edelblut surrounded by a big number of back-packs ..... starting a back-pack company .... April fools'.

Chris Sununu has hiked the entire 2100-mile Appalachian trail something like 25-years ago, so he knows his back-packs ...... dat's a lot of back-pack'n ..... walk'n from Georgia to Mt Katahdin!
.....................

Ok, so here's a March 4 2020 CNN video report on Cong Matt Gaetz from Florida wearing a gas mask as a way to mock legislation to protect against the coronavirus.

www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/gaetz-coronavirus-gas-mask/index.html

How 37-year old, Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz from Florida thought about the coronavirus on March 4.

.....and, that's no joke!
This Floridian voted for Matt Gaetz [R-FL].

I'd actually never seen his face until last evening! :eek2:

Of course, the accompanying article was a negative one...:rolleye1:

[WinnisquamZ]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/business/economy/coronavirus-inequality.html
Good read. Different view


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[gravy boat]

What is worse? The Corona Virus or being robbed and mugged by an ex-con on early release?

At least you can defend yourself with your firearm if mugged...

[gravy boat]

But for crimes sake Major he is/was running for President. Shouldn’t the American people expect and be entitled to better from their leader? This is why, while I respect the office, I can’t respect the man!


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Now, I COULD see not respecting the man if he took sexual advantage of an intern while holding the office of President...and then lied about it.

I COULD also see not respecting his wife, who not only belittled and tried to tarnish the reputation of the intern her husband just sexually harassed but also tried to tarnish the reputation of the other women with whom her husband is alleged to have had "sexual relations".

But then again I can see how one instance of locker room talk long before holding public office would be considered equally as horrible...

To each his or her own.

[Top-Water]

Hey Top-Water ...... this is from Panama City, Florida ..... and this report is an April fool's day joke, type of a made up story ...... it's meant to be an April fool's joke and not a real believable news report.

It is truly FAKE NEWS ..... done for a joke, or something.

KTLA 5 News in Los Angeles ............... did you forget your medication again.:patriot:

I guess its like you a little bit............. done for a joke, or something. Try the country of Panama.

[fatlazyless]

Yes, oh well, my bad .....that's Panama City, Panama, and not Panama City, Florida?

I had just read two April fools joke stories in the LaDaSun and Conway Sun, and this story seemed like another April fool joke coming from WMUR.

So, what do I know ..... it is the real deal ....... oh well!

Still say the best April fool, make believe story is on Gov Sununu opening a back-pack store...... which sells ..... budda-bing ...... back-packs! ...... April 1, Conway Daily Sun.

Does he have a Chuck Roast model in like new condition?

[coolyourjets]

LBJ was a reluctant champion. He did it to secure votes, plain and simple. The CRA started as a republican initiative in the late 1950s.

Nothing Trump has said has bugged me. He calls thing as he sees them. Regarding Charlottesville, the other side he was referencing wasn't the white nationalists, but the first amendment supporters. There were many groups there. He has NEVER said that he supports the KKK or white nationalists.

He was on national TV for 15 years, worked with hundreds if not thousands of people. If he had any hint of racism, or is a racists, we could call on dozens of examples from this period of time. NOTHING. (As an anecdote, I know a producer of the Apprentice, who is far from conservative, who states that Trump was good to everyone, and that there was never any instances of misogynist or racist behavior.) He has been in the public light for nearly 40 years. NOTHING. These accusations are about as real as Russian collusion.

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.


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[ApS]

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.
Checked.

The BBC version is widely criticized.

:rolleye1:

[Major]

Google it. There are several reports of racist behavior while he was on the Apprentice. So, it’s not really NOTHING.


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I don’t need to google anything. My source is solid. He knows Trump and his family well. This is FAKE news.


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