What happens to the lake if Romney wins?

[Pineedles]

I don't want to start a political conversation here, just trying to understand the implications as it applies to the lake, if Romney becomes President. I'm sure he loves the lake, as do most all of us, and would probably want to continue to enjoy it with his family on occasion. Taking that as a given, what would be the impact to the "defensive zone" that most likely would be set up around the compound?

[robmac]

If you remember when he was Govenor he had a rope line that streched pretty far off shore. So I would say if elected that area would be totally off limits. JMHO

[camp guy]

I don't think any new president will have a lot of time to vacation and kick back - they will be totally consumed trying to re-orient our country back to a jobs-based economy that they will be luck to leave the Oval office for lunch.

The white line in place when he was Massachusetts governor wasn't his doing, it was the security forces. The locals know him, and politely ignore him. Now I am not ignorant of the difference between being a governor and being president, so clearly there will have to be security measures in place.

It would be interesting, to say the least.

[Grant]

And diving Clark's Point would probably result in a life-changing encounter with a Navy Seal. Even if he becomes the nominee, say buh-bye to that dive site.

And can you imagine the Secret Service detail on a Sunday when President Romney heads to the church north of downtown? Main Street would be cordoned off, locked down, gridlocked and lined with black Suburbans filled with gun-toting dudes in armor.

And then there's the news media...satellite trucks, primping talking heads, traffic...

Just sayin'...

[webmaster]

If you remember when he was Govenor he had a rope line that streched pretty far off shore. So I would say if elected that area would be totally off limits. JMHOhttp://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/530/medium/7Mitts_Place.jpg (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1454)

[jrc]

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

[VitaBene]

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

Or Pease. It is an easy helo ride from Hampton area!

[hancoveguy]

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?

HCG

[WakeboardMom]

We need someone who lives on Martha's Vineyard to weigh in. They've experienced it first-hand.

[joann721]

If he makes the Wolfeboro house his "CAMP DAVID" then we could be in for some challenging summer moments. But, IMHO, any inconvenience in the Wolfeboro area would be worthwhile for the the value of having a business man running the country again .... :D

[webmaster]

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?

HCGhttp://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160024&postcount=21

[NBR]

Go over to Kennebunkport and visit walkers Point. Plenty of security but not a big hassle for others.

[patman]

Or Pease. It is an easy helo ride from Hampton area!

I used to work in an office at Pease. When Bush visited, he would fly in to Pease and they'd shut traffic down while the black SUVs and all the security escorts went by, then they'd head up 95.

K'port is 45 minute drive from Pease, Wolfeboro is about an hour. I'd bet they'd drive instead of the helicopter, probably with a rolling blockade up 16 and 11.

Between the security and the gawkers, it played major havoc with the traffic everywhere along the route.

[Jonas Pilot]

Go over to Kennebunkport and visit walkers Point. Plenty of security but not a big hassle for others.

It's a lot easier to secure a peninsula.

[Heaven]

I can't wait!
The only compensation for having a republican in office is to have one with a home on the lake ; )

[tis]

Go over to Kennebunkport and visit walkers Point. Plenty of security but not a big hassle for others.

It was a bit of a hassle when he was there. THey closed the whole road down so you couldn't go through. When he wasn't there it was fine.

[jrc]

OK I'm feeling better about him landing in Pease and going direct to Wolfeboro.

When the French President rented the house around the corner from Mitt, they shut down a favorite anchoring spot. So President Mitt is welcome, but he can't bring any friends.

[Pineedles]

If you click on this page it will show you the location of Romney's home. There is a red square around the property. I imagine the "red perimeter" will have to be enlarged if he is there as POTUS.

http://wikimapia.org/4224479/Lakefront-Estate-of-Mitt-Romney-candidate-for-the-Republican-nomination-for-president-in-2008

[beagle]

One day last summer he must have had some vip's up for lunch because there were 2 seaplanes taking turns landing in S Wolfeboro bay and taxing in to shore. I would say they landed about a dozen times coming in, and the same later around 5 o'clock leaving. Pretty cool.

[beagle]

never did this before, don't know if it will work

[patman]

I wonder if the neighbors could apply for a tax abatement due to lost usage from the security zone...or even sue Romney for lost property value. Security zones don't just go away after their subject is out of office...

Here's hoping it doesn't become an issue...for one reason or another.

[NoBozo]

never did this before, don't know if it will work

That's a De Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver. Arguably the most well known and rugged bush plane ever. Single Pratt & Whitney Radial engine of 450 HP. Built from 1948 to 1969. Eight passengers including pilot. Still used extensively in Washington State/Puget Sound .. and Alaska. :) NB

[Pineedles]

It's always nice to hear about our own, here in Connecticut, Pratt & Whitney.:)

A seashore frontage in K'prt, ME has its own challenges, but there has to be more concern with line of sight to the compound in Wolfeboro? Top of Rattlesnake, Varney, Worcester, Barndoor Islands? It is an expansive area to be covered to protect POTUS. This isn't the Mass State Police protecting the Gov. It's the Secret Service protecting the President of the United States. I don't think it is a rope 125 ft from shore. Think about folkes. I could be a BIG zone!

[meredith weekender]

Pine needles is right. We could have submarines, coast guard cutters and aircraft carriers positioned around the lake. :laugh::laugh::laugh: maybe the secret service will take over the islands as lookouts?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Rattlesnake Guy]

What happens?

New Hampshire gets mentioned on the news as much as Maine and Texas did.

Our biggest industry is tourism.

I can see the Mount having a "Summer White House Cruise".

[Lakesrider]

More like this...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/NHolds/AIRFORCE.jpg

[fatlazyless]

In March, 1991, Vice President Dan Quayle went skiing at Waterville Valley and his vice president's airplane landed at Laconia Airport. Traveling up Rt 93 from Gilford to WV, Rt 93 was closed on both sides, north and south, and the VP caravan traveled north on the south bound side. When he was skiiiing the secret service surrounded him on the ski trail almost like a football team protecting the quarterback plus the ski trail was roped off closed at the top.

For Mitt to become the president would mean some very good business for Sawyer's ice cream and fried clams what with all the government people flying into Laconia Airport.

When MITT becomes president and wants to show off his waterski trick with the step ladder attached to the aquaboard, most likely he'll be surrounded by a group of waterskiing secret service. Way-to-go MITT!

[VtSteve]

It's still June, very early. I don't want to say, again, that he has no chance. I just wouldn't worry about it.

[Lakesrider]

"I don't want to start a political conversation here........"

Well that went out the window.....:laugh:

[Shreddy]

That's a De Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver. Arguably the most well known and rugged bush plane ever. Single Pratt & Whitney Radial engine of 450 HP. Built from 1948 to 1969. Eight passengers including pilot. Still used extensively in Washington State/Puget Sound .. and Alaska. :) NB

No way!? I wish I had one one of those ZTG-352341 Flambunctuator take-off water hootananny's thing-a-ma-jigs with DGW solar power to warm my coffee up. :D

[John A. Birdsall]

I think it would be great to have a Air Craft Carrier (USS Nimitz) a submarine USS New Hampshire SSN??? A destroyer escort, and a battlewagon stationed at Lake W. But what would be better is to see them get it there and launch it. The Winniupasaukee Bell had quiten a trip from Portsmouth to Alton Bay and then a job in launching her. and that is not much bigger than a life boat on the Nimitz. Maybe the Nimitz could be launched at Victoria Pier.:laugh::laugh:

[patman]

I think it would be great to have a Air Craft Carrier (USS Nimitz) a submarine USS New Hampshire SSN??? A destroyer escort, and a battlewagon stationed at Lake W.

Naaw...think BIIIG. How about a *bunch* of aircraft carriers, stretching from T'boro neck to Laconia. End to end. So you could drive across. Think of how much time you'd save driving across the lake instead of around it! Suddenly all the online 'search for our closest store' searches would be useful!!!

[RLW]

Where is his house on the lake anyway? Just so I can stay away when the time comes?HCG

http://i52.tinypic.com/2s8k8lh.gifDo you know something that we don't?????:)

[joann721]

I think it would be great to have a Air Craft Carrier (USS Nimitz) a submarine USS New Hampshire SSN??? A destroyer escort, and a battlewagon stationed at Lake W. But what would be better is to see them get it there and launch it. The Winniupasaukee Bell had quiten a trip from Portsmouth to Alton Bay and then a job in launching her. and that is not much bigger than a life boat on the Nimitz. Maybe the Nimitz could be launched at Victoria Pier.:laugh::laugh:



This comment made me smile... my deported 96 year old Aunt asked me with a smile on day if I had ever seen a whale in the lake... :-)

[sa meredith]

I don't want to start a political conversation here, just trying to understand the implications as it applies to the lake, if Romney becomes President. I'm sure he loves the lake, as do most all of us, and would probably want to continue to enjoy it with his family on occasion. Taking that as a given, what would be the impact to the "defensive zone" that most likely would be set up around the compound?

This might be a good analogy. Back when I was a kid, 7th, 8th, 9th grade (late 70's, early 80's) my best friend's next door neighbors were very very wealthy. They owned a summer home, oceanfront, in Kennibunkport, Maine. My friend was an only child, so whenever his family travelled with the neighbors to Kennibunkport for a weekend, he took a friend along so he had something to do, as the adults pretty much "cocktailed" all weekend. What a great place to spend time in the summer...although I was far to young to appreciate it. Anyway...as a kid, I got to know the people who owned the home. Well, later in life, by coincidence, they came into my pace of business and I recognized them. We talked for quite some time, and I inquired as to what the town was like after Bush Senior became president (the Bush family owns a summer home in Kennibunkport, for anyone who may not know). They said it all started when he was Vice President...1981. And only got worse. When a trip was planned to Kennibunkport by Bush, the "forward team" of secret service would show up to town days ahead doing security sweeps, and closing many well travelled roads. When Vice President Bush (later President Bush) was actually there, sections of beaches were closed, and many more streets. The folks I knew expressed that it was extremely intrusive, and often made it very difficult to enjoy a weekend. The secret service acted in a way that was not at all sensitive to the fact that many of the wealthy summer residents simply wanted to go about their business. Street closings often cause traffic jams, and made simple trips to the diner for breakfast impossible.
And that was back in the 80's. I can only imagine what type of security messures are taken in this day and age.
I would think a president spending a couple of days at his lake house will not be a good thing. Especially if he decides to go out to dinner or do some bar hopping (probably not bar hopping).

[John A. Birdsall]

Well, I told my grand kids that there were whales in the lake, and I said here comes one now. My wife did not speak for a month!:emb:

[LIforrelaxin]

If Mitt where to become president, or even just become the Republican Candidate, The lake would never be the same. Once secret service comes into the picture, there will be whole sale changes when he is in town... further more you have to deal with those changes even after he leave office as the Secret Service stays involved after he leave office.

On the flip side property values around the lake would sky rocket....Much as the do everywhere a president has a home.

Now on the flipside, things do calm down after a president is out of office for a while. Last year while in Kennebunk Port for our honeymoon, we where informed that the elder Bush was at Walkers Point for the long weekend... the differences where very subtle, around town... First his boat went from the harbor area, out to a morning just off shore, and the two secret service boats left harbor and started Patroling around the point. After that there really wasn't an intrusion on life around the area. However having said that, last year marked something like 14 years or so out office for President Bush Sr.

[NoBozo]

MY FRIENDS: This is NOT a problem. Just vote for The ONE...and the lake will not be affected. :D :D NB

[lawn psycho]

The Bush's actually fly into Sanford, not Pease. They take motocade to K-port.

I live not far from Walker's point. When the family is there, it's not that big a deal it's when he's on the move and streets get closed, etc it can be a pain.

When Bush's boat is on the mooring ball, two divers inspect it before they bring him out to hop onboard. The have a Coast Guard boat that patrols around the property and if you try to get close on the water they will send you away from the area. There are cameras all over the property. I ride my bike along Ocean Ave and the property is fenced and you can see they have every angle covered.

If Romney becomes the GOP candidate and/or the president, I suspect a fairly large area will be blocked off as a restricted area on the water. That would likely be the only impact on the water.

When the motorcade is on the move, the streets are closed, they have a couple forward posted vehicles that conduct sweeps and then next thing you know the limo streaks by with agents hanging out of vans and suburbans in close proximity to the president. The motorcade does not follow the posted speed limit that is for sure:)

[Jonas Pilot]

Walker's Point Maine.

[ApS]

If Mitt where to become president, or even just become the Republican Candidate, The lake would never be the same. ...On the flip side, property values around the lake would skyrocket....Much as they do everywhere a president has a home.
When President Nixon took office, I watched as an island near Miami became his second home—and Key Biscayne then changed drastically. I had friends on Key Biscayne which at that time, was a sleepy community of modest one-story ranch homes, long public beachfronts, and wide-open spaces.

But today? :eek2:

"Key Biscayne is one of the wealthiest communities in the United States. The community, which is only accessed by boat and the Rickenbacker Causeway, served as the Florida home to former president, Richard Nixon and actor Andy Garcia...

The community of Key Biscayne is an affluent population by local and national standards...The median household income for Key Biscayne is $86,599...The property values of Key Biscayne reach a total of $2 billion and Key Biscayne ranked number 134 on Worth’s’ 250 Richest U.S towns in 2001.

In September of 2004, the town mayor restricted the use of wave runners and jet skis within 300 feet of the shoreline. The city also has begun the groundwork to implement new zoning codes that would prompt redevelopment and protect Key Biscayne’s “character.”

The island currently contains five public parks and about 30 acres of beach.
http://mpoportal.fiu.edu/community_history_view.cfm?hist_id=22

While the number of public parks is up, "wide open-spaces" for the public is down.

A land-rich Miami family donated a huge coconut plantation for the "open-air enjoyment" of every person: local "Movers and Shakers" fought that generous and philanthrophic donation in court, and now Key Biscayne has Professional Tennis Championships instead. :rolleye2:

I hope Romney sells his place before any radical change arrives at the Lakes Region. :eek:

[Kamper]

If only somebody would buy the place. Then there'd be no problem.

[Slickcraft]

If it becomes Lake MittWinni, the Marine Patrol budget will get a big bump up.

Fortunately for us Welch Island would be outside the security perimeter excepting a probable infrequent boat ride. With the "Beast" limo weighing an estimated 14,000 lbs, a special boat may have to be constructed to carry the functional equivalent around the lake in style.

[dpg]

What....Your all assuming he's going to win??

[john60ri]

This comment made me smile... my deported 96 year old Aunt asked me with a smile on day if I had ever seen a whale in the lake... :-)

Sorry your aunt was deported. Back in the Old Country, is she?

[Lucky1]

I missed a day of classes now and then. Remind me again, why would anyone want to be President? If it would be hard on us to have the traffic and security details, what must it be like to have to deal with all the problems of The United States? Then take off for a weekend and have to be surrounded and have roads closed because some nut out there thinks it would be great to take a gun and kill you????

"If drafted, I will not run; if nominated I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve." William Tecumseh Sherman.

Thank God for all who serve OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY. Our Governement is not a perfect system, but I just don't know a better one. I will proudly put up with any inconvenience that any President causes, and I will be eternally grateful for being born in America.

Happy weekend to all and wish I could be there!! May try to get there earlier.

[Pineedles]

what....your all assuming he's going to win??


Dewey Wins!

I don't mean for this to be a political statement. I am just curious about what everyone's experience and imagination can come up with. BTW, you all have been very imaginative and I appreciate your contributions. Submarines? Excellent!

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Where exactly is Clark's Point when traveling by boat. I would like to find Romney's house when out on the lake. I looked on the Duncan chart and I can't seem to find it.

[tis]

From downtown Wolfeboro by boat, follow the shoreline on your left going by Brewster Academy, then Brewster (Sandy) Beach. Continue around the "corner". That outermost point is Clark's Pointe. It is a few houses beyond that.

I am not very good at explaining things but hope that helps. You really can't miss it though if you just continue along that shore.

[jrc]

As I understand it, the Romney house is on the east side of Springfield Point.

If you find Little Barn Door Island on the chart, due east of there is the Varney Islands, then Worcester Island then Springfield Point.


Wow I guess I'm at the wrong house.

[tis]

It would be across from Springfield Point.

[gravy boat]

Well, skinny dipping after dark would be out. Who knows how many SS divers' eyes would be peering up from the depths around the bay! :D

Much activity surrounding the premises would be monitored, I would think. More so a few weeks before he comes to town and during the visit. Plain clothes surveillance, video cameras strategically placed, etc. I'll lend the SS the motion-activated camera I gave hubby a few years ago -- it's still in the box!

I would imagine the poor people of Wolfeboro will see gridlock when he's on the move, but that would be about it. Dignitaries would not likely come to NH, but the White House or Camp David. Logistically a nightmare for all. They'll likely not draw any more attention to a visit as necessary, unless it involves good PR for the WH.

GB

[Merrymeeting]

My in-laws live a short way outside of Kennebunkport. My recollection is that Bush's presence there was of minimal impact.

As others have mentioned, he rarely entertained dignitaries there.

If anything, some of the businesses complained that people stayed away because they assumed it was going to be crowded/crazy.

On occasion, there would be the random road closure, but not enough to worry about.

My biggest worry would be the after affect of all the publicity that our beloved small town would get.

[lawn psycho]

merrymeeting, the biggest factor that determines the impact to you is if you are on the actual route. To Walker's point there are lots of other paths you can choose to get around if you know the area.

In the case of the Lake, if you happen to be driving around the lake on a busy weekend day and a Presidential Motorcade is on the move, you may change your opinion:D It's certainly not the end of the world but you can be held up in traffic for a while if you hit the right place at the wrong time.

[tis]

WE had friends who lived very close to the Bush's house and when they were there and we went to visit, you could only go one direction. The road by their house was closed.

[riverat]

How much inconvienence would there be?
Vehicle searches(car and boats) and monitoring cellphone conversations? Checking adult diapers before boarding the mount? I have a feeling we will need to change the state motto.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

This woman would be unemployed.

[patman]

From today's GSN:
MITT ROMNEY (shown here in the 2008 parade with wife Ann) was one of the first politicians to sign up for the 2011 July 4th Parade. Also participating will be First District Congressman Frank Guinta and the Wolfeboro Area Democrats.

"I can see Mitt's hair from my house!"

[TOAD]

This woman would be unemployed.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::D:D:D

[tis]

Mitt is going to be in the parade in Wolfeboro Monday. Ron Paul is going to be in Wolfeboro tomorrow, at Evergrain around 2. Lots of politics this Fourth, I would say.

[Merrymeeting]

RG, for the clueless amoung us (who may only be me), can you enlighten us on who the woman is in the photo? :confused:

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Janet Napolitano is the third and current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.

Under her brilliant stewardship we now get photographed naked to get on a plane and our grand mother has her diaper searched. The references to the enhanced security to get on the Mount if Mitt was to become the prez gave me the very pleasant thought that perhaps we might get someone in the position that could stop terror without creating more of it in the process.

[winnisummergal]

I live in the state she governed for years and our economy is now one of the worst in the United States and our borders are awful. I'm not necessarily a fan of our current governor but I feel for her and the mess she is trying to clean up. I cannot believe this woman is in charge of Homeland Security when you look at the security of the state she previously governed....:confused:

[webmaster]

Guys, please limit your comments to the impact this could have on the lake and surrounding communities. There are many other forums where you can express your political opinions.

[Kamper]

... Air Force One ...

More likely land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

If they use one of the 747's, Hanscom AFB not Boston Logan would be better for security purposes.

Manchester can take 'heavies' now but they'd probably use Pease because there is still an Air Force presence there, if they didn't use Hanscom.

[tis]

I would think they would use Pease too. It would be closest and it is a great runway and as you said, the AF still have a presence there. I wish Pease would get another commercial airline in there.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Mitt's new swim platform would fix a lot of issues.

[SAMIAM]

Good call,Don....it's so easy to slip into political debate and it just goes downhill.That's why we love the forum.....everybody is happy (all most):coolsm::coolsm::coolsm::coolsm:

[lawn psycho]

I would think they would use Pease too. It would be closest and it is a great runway and as you said, the AF still have a presence there. I wish Pease would get another commercial airline in there.

Air Force 1 is not always the widebody 747. It's whatever plane the president flies on.

When Bush I and Bush II were up for trips to Maine, the most common method was for them to fly the smaller plane into Sanford and then use motorcade to K-port. Sometimes, they would use the 747 into Pease but that was the exception, not the norm. Then they high-tailed it up the Maine Turnpike.

If Romney were to get elected President, there are a couple options they could do. They could fly to Pease and helicopter to Laconia then motorcade. They could do the same operation but instead fly to Sanford then Laconia via heli. Or the could use a plane direct to Laconia but I don't know enough about what planes they use and runway length to know what works and what doesn't.

Here's a picture of Air Force One at Sanford Maine I snagged from the web. You can clearly see it's not a 747....

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Marine One can land on three plywood disk on the White House lawn. I am sure they can find a spot near Brewster or the Golf Course. If I was over there, I would be proud to let Marine One land in my yard no matter who was aboard.

As long as I could post the pictures of course. :D

When I am in DC, I always stop to look up in pride of the power of the office of the President.

[Heaven]

Perhaps the huggin's pad? Or Wolfeboro neck at the Marriots "airport", or, there are other private pads in town.

[tis]

Romney is a friend of the Marriot's so maybe---. Never thought of that. :laugh:

[SteveA]

http://politicalscoop.wmur.com/romney-returns-to-nh-for-two-day-visit-next-week

Romney in the Lakes Region for the 4th.

[KBoater]

Mitt will pay Brewster Academy $$$$$$$ to land Marine one on their fields
and no impact to traffic will happen except for the beach goers at Brewster Beach.
However roping off part of Winni will happen.
Just my solution.

[ApS]

Romney is a friend of the Marriot's so maybe---. Never thought of that. :laugh:

It was a Marriott executive (http://http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=81508&postcount=17) who suggested that Romney buy in Wolfeboro.

[SteveA]

Or the could use a plane direct to Laconia but I don't know enough about what planes they use and runway length to know what works and what doesn't.....


Laconia Airport and the Gilford Selectman would never allow that! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[topwater]

Mitt will be over for Dinner and Drinks tonight, I will ask him what his plans will be.

[Pineedles]

Mitt will be over for Dinner and Drinks tonight, I will ask him what his plans will be.

I thought Mormons don't drink.:laugh:

[topwater]

Only behind closed doors my friend....only behind closed doors.... By the way, one of these Monday mornings, I should pick you up at your dock for a day of fishing.

[Kamper]

Air Force 1 is not always the widebody 747. It's whatever plane the president flies on. ....

True. Maybe they'll recondition an amphibian out of moth-balls and resurect the call-sign "Navy One."

[Pineedles]

Only behind closed doors my friend....only behind closed doors.... By the way, one of these Monday mornings, I should pick you up at your dock for a day of fishing.

OMG, It would be most appreciated my friend! My son has been bitten by the bass disease after I told him about the "reef" that exists off our dock that you told me about. He suspected such, and has since pulled multiple bass as well as a very cantankerous pickeral from this "line" that you drew for me. The "slugos?" you gave me that day have worked everywhere. CT River, Winnie, you name it. Thank you again! J's preffered lure is mostly now topwater lures but he has introduced me to salty crayfish.

We will be up there the first week of September, J and I, and would love to hook up with you. He wants to rent a pontoon for the week and I am in agreement that this would be the best way to access the weedy areas that produce. I was real disspointed to hear about Conway's closing. It's nice when your son appreciates fin and fur as a pasttime.

[topwater]

Consider it done.. Shoot me a IM when your up for the week.

[magicrobotmonkey]

Mitt must have been spending the holiday weekend up at the lake, because he was in Laconia's 4th of July parade yesterday! I figure it was the closest one to his place so he could do a little campaigning and get back to enjoying the lake.

[songkrai]

Where does Romney claim his residency today/now?

[TOAD]

Where does Romney claim his residency today/now?

Campaign Trail, USA.

[Lakesrider]

Mitt's new swim platform would fix a lot of issues.

OMG, you should send that to him at his Wolfeboro address.
That is an awesome Idea.....
Wouldn't that be something, having to hold the Mount out in the Broads while he did his arrival and departures?
LOL!:D

[SteveA]

he lives in his sons unfinished basement... according to voter registration in Belmont Mass. :rolleye1:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/if-mitt-romney-lived-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-did-he-commit-voter-fraud/

The video from MSNBC is near the bottom of the page... pretty funny.

[Argie's Wife]

I was living in Wells, ME when the Papa Bush was president, and lemme tell you... nothing could screw up summertime traffic like Team Pres coming into town... and that was before 9-11 - security wasn't as tight back then as it is today!


And isn't there an airport in Wolfeboro or Tuftonboro? :confused:

[ClosetExtrovert]

I will offer up my own personal govenor Christie for a substitute. He's a little rough around the edges, but seems to be getting the job done. Oh..and he's fat. Hope that's not a problem.

[NoBozo]

I was living in Wells, ME when the Papa Bush was president, and lemme tell you... nothing could screw up summertime traffic like Team Pres coming into town... and that was before 9-11 - security wasn't as tight back then as it is today!

And isn't there an airport in Wolfeboro or Tuftonboro? :confused:


There used to be an airport in Wolfeboro on Wolfeboro Neck but someone decided it would be better suited as a Condo Park. Trouble is, nobody was buying or building. I think the Marriot's own the land now.

There's no airport in Tuftonboro. Nearest airport on the Wolfeboro side of the lake is on Rt 25 in Moultonboro. :D NB

[Barbara]

The Marriott's do own whatwas once the airport. It was subdivided into building lots with septic systems and underground utilities in place before the bottom dropped out of the housing market. The Marriott's bought the whole shebang. They have close ties to the Romney's and it would be an easy place to land a helicopter. However, I recently talked to someone who worked in the White House under Bush and asked about how he would get into town if he were President. The answer I was given was that he would fly into Pease on Air Force One and then by helicopter right up to the neighborhood which could be the hospital, golf course, Clark Park. There would not be a lot of traffic tie ups, but the people who live down Clark Rd. In the area where he lives will have tough screening to go through every time they go in or out whenever he would be in residence.

[jrc]

Let's assume he will land in Pease and drive the motorcade in normal situations. According to the map thing it's 47 minutes. It's 42 minutes to Laconia, but that means a smaller plane or a transfer of planes.

In emergency situation they can land Marine One on the golf course or in the lake! The usual helicopter is amphibious.

http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/SH-3-Sea-King-helicopter-163.preview.jpg

[tis]

The runway of the old Wolfeboro Airport is now a road, but it really would make a better runway than what used to be there.

[lawn psycho]

When Obama visited Acadia National Park in Maine, he arrived in a Gulfstream III. Clinton also flew on a Gulfstream III

Who knows what they'll use but given the short flight from Andrews AFB to New England it makes more sense to fly the smaller planes.

Again, I will be surprised if they don't use Sanford. They already have the logistics worked out and can heli from there.

I was in Claremont in 94/95 when Clinton visited. I have seen a fair share of motorcades;)

[ApS]

There's no airport in Tuftonboro. Nearest airport on the Wolfeboro side of the lake is on Rt 25 in Moultonboro. :D NB

:confused: ...but my Dad tells me, at one time, there were many airports in Tuftonboro! :(

'Course, that was in the 1930s, when any green field was "an airport". :emb:

—including the 10th green at the "Bald Peak Golf Course" :eek2: where many golfer-pilots would land to play golf!

:)

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Let's assume he will land in Pease and drive the motorcade in normal situations. According to the map thing it's 47 minutes. It's 42 minutes to Laconia, but that means a smaller plane or a transfer of planes.

In emergency situation they can land Marine One on the golf course or in the lake! The usual helicopter is amphibious.

http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/SH-3-Sea-King-helicopter-163.preview.jpg

Can see Mitt doing a water landing and jumping out onto a waiting PWC for a beach landing to grill burgers with the family.:)

[This'nThat]

Can see Mitt doing a water landing and jumping out onto a waiting PWC for a beach landing to grill burgers with the family.:)
And doing it all without a single strand of hair out of place.

[WakeboardMom]

Apparently, even people in LA find Mitt's Wolfeboro residency an interesting topic.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/10/nation/la-na-hometown-wolfeboro-20110710

[Pineedles]

Great article, thanks. But where exactly is....

"there's an ice fishing tournament in nearby Alden Bay".:laugh:

[jrc]

It's intentional misdirection to fool the Ruskies.:laugh:

[WakeboardMom]

Great article, thanks. But where exactly is....

"there's an ice fishing tournament in nearby Alden Bay".:laugh:

I posted that link on FB and mentioned "Alden Bay" specifically. My son commented, "I emailed the author with the correction."

Gotta love NH pride!

[Barbara]

They got the Lawn Chair Drill Team wrong too. There are six women in the group, not counting the banner carriers and drummer who are also women. I'm one of the Lawn Chair Ladies!!!!!

[fatlazyless]

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110821/NEWS0605/708219964

About four months from now, probably on the first Tuesday in January, is the NH presidencial primary election. I definitely expect to bump into Mitt, Rick, & Barack over the next couple months, down at the new Meredith-Family Dollar, all waiting in line at the check-out to pay for their $3.50 frozen pizzas!

"Well, just look who's here........helloooooo Mr Mitt!" .....very smart to be stopping in here....this new store is located smack dab in the middle of Meredith's year round, full time, local neighborhood people, and except for the last 2008 election, Meredith almost always favors the Republican candidate in November.

[Smith Point]

I know there is an Air force 1, and Marine 1, Motorcade 1, (army) but is there a Navy 1? What kind of boat does the president get? If I was president that would be my first question, where is my new boat!

[Pineedles]

Romney says he "loves Lake Winnipesaukee."



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57341069-503544/after-tough-iowa-debate-romney-back-in-n.h/

[Rattlesnake Guy]

I know how he feels. Coming back home to New Hampshire can be a great sense of comfort and decompression. I think that if we get Mitt as a president, this kind of tips his hand that New Hampshire might be a likely place to recharge the batteries and get some quality think time.

[topwater]

Mitt who? Newt is the next President and he doesn't have a place up here.

[LIforrelaxin]

In deed you are correct RGuy..... I while I see it as a great thing for a president of have a place to get away too, I am not sure I want to see it in the lakes region. It might lead to restrictions that none of use are fond of....
It also tends to lead to a real estate boom, which may drive some of us off the lake.....

Not that this would keep me from voting for Romney If I feel he is the right the person for the job.....

[codeman671]

In deed you are correct RGuy..... I while I see it as a great thing for a president of have a place to get away too, I am not sure I want to see it in the lakes region. It might lead to restrictions that none of use are fond of....
It also tends to lead to a real estate boom, which may drive some of us off the lake.....

Not that this would keep me from voting for Romney If I feel he is the right the person for the job.....

Bring on the boom. I am tired of seeing my market value plummet...

[SteveA]

Bring on the boom. ...

I don't think I'd use the term "boom" in any discussion of a Presidential candidate. :emb::emb:

These secret service guys a have no sense of humor!

Just Kidding!

[barefootbay]

He needs to seriously up his game as he is in danger of losing the nomination once again.

[Heaven]

I think he is trying to hard to "play the game" and not keeping it focused on his own message.

[Winnisquamguy]

Not that this would keep me from voting for Romney If I feel he is the right the person for the job.....I hope all the people up here are thinking this way.Would hate to see someone lose because someone thinks it is going to be a inconvenience to them.

[LIforrelaxin]

I think he is trying to hard to "play the game" and not keeping it focused on his own message.

That is one of the many Reasons I still believe Romney to be a long shot. He starts his campaign earlier then any one else, because he has the money to do so. And while there is no real opposition, his message is always quite clear. He is a business man, he see the opportunity to take a business approach to government. (no different the Ross Perot, and Donald Trump). However as additional candidates start to come into the light, and the political game starts, Romney losses traction, as he has to take hard fast stances on issues, that in the beginning he skirts around. There is a reason this man seems to only play in politics.

I will consider Romney, but first he has to make it through the primary season.

[Merrymeeting]

Just a friendly reminder... these forums are for the lake. While it's appropriate to discuss Romney in light of his residence here, lets be careful this thread doesn't branch into a political/candidate discussion.

[laketrout]

I'm more worried about Air Force One coming in over my boat into Laconia airport. Think they can land a 747 in there?

More likely they land in Boston and Marine One to Laconia.

If he gets elected--The USAF uses smaller jet aircraft that coud land in Laconia- Helicopter Marine 1 and doubles would be everywhere- I lived near Kennebunkport Maine during Bush1 and the Helicopter traffic was everywhere = annoying.
Kennebunk and the Kennebunkport still attact people today due to the Bush family living there- it might be a boom for local business and or a curse to quiet smalltown life.

[MAXUM]

No matter what happens to Mitt in the presidential race you can't fault the guy if he wants to take a vacation and decides to head to the lake just like everyone else on this forum does. If he does win and comes to the lake I don't begrudge him for doing so, it will without a doubt screw the area up while he's in town. Remember too that will extend beyond whatever time he may be in the White House (if he gets that far).

As a side note, get educated on the candidates running for President and vote. It's not only a privilege but an obligation as a citizen. Many have died or sacrificed a great deal so you have the ability to do so! :)

[dpg]

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest? :D

[LIforrelaxin]

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest? :D

That would put Forum Fest into a whole new category now wouldn't it....

[SAMIAM]

Merrymeeting makes a good point.....so easy to slide into political debate which is not allowed in this forum......thanks to Don

[Pineedles]

Wouldn't it be cool if he wins and goes to the forum fest? :D

THAT would be SO cool!

[Hermit Cover]

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

[LIforrelaxin]

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

I don't think it would mean anything for the Romney camp on Winnipesaukee... except maybe reduced use.... Romney bought the camp because he liked the area, unless he no longer enjoys the lake, he will still want to use it....

[MAXUM]

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

Sounds like he'll need me to be his personal caretaker for his 'camp' in Wolfeboro. :rolleye2:

[Pineedles]

Nothing wrong with putting out your resume early.:D

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Have you seen his Christmas card? I think his family can keep more than one house full with plenty to spare.

http://mittromneycentral.com/uploads/romney-family-photo-xmas-600px.jpg

Can't tell if this picture was taken at the lake?

[SteveA]

Great looking Family!

What's up with the matching "outfits" on all the kids? (Maybe they got one of those coveted 30% off coupons from Kohl's?) :)

The little bit of the house you can see looks to be the same color as his lake house and the trees and bushes look like typical NH stuff. Just guessing.

Here is a family picture from the 2008 Campaign that is from Winnipesaukee.

5672

[Heaven]

Christmas card? : / Is that how they do it on the left coast?

[TOAD]

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt :rolleye2:, wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. ;) What's that all about? :confused:

[riverat]

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt :rolleye2:, wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. ;) What's that all about? :confused:

very observant for 5 in the morning lol
is strange tho

[AC2717]

haha I agree,
but one thing to note his hands are placed different

[upthesaukee]

We have 8 grandchildren ranging in age from 6 to 21, with some of the kids living with "ex's". After the youngest was born, we tried several times to get a picture of all 8 together. It took over 3 years before we got the "baby" in a picture with her other 7 cousins. In the past 3+ years, we have not had the opportunity to get the 8 together again for an updated picture.

I'm guessing that the two pictures (and I'm sure many more) were taken at the same family gathering, probably by a professional photographer, and there were multiple posings. If we had trouble getting 8 kids together, how easy is it to get a family that size together for a family photo op.

Just a thought.:rolleye1:

PS: I just added up the people, and the original had 28 people, the second photo showed 22. Hmmmmmmmm. Now I don't know, and I've had two cups of coffee.

[LIforrelaxin]

Do we really need to scrutinize the photo's this much?.....

At any rate on thing to think about is photo shop is a wonderful thing....

Upthesaukee if you are really interested in getting a family photo, look for a photographer that is will to work with you... You might not be able to get everyone together at once, but I know many people that have had large family photos done over the course of several sittings....and then all the photos merged.....

[AC2717]

Life i agree
but we are all in a Christmas haze, stuck at work not wanting to work, it is is not snowing nor summer time, nor ice, so there is nothing else to talk about
with that said

MERRY CHRISTMAS and yes it is a Christmas Tree, not Happy Holidays or a holiday tree

[patman]

The guy on the right end of the picture looks like he is wearing the same shirt :rolleye2:, wearing the same smile and holding the same baby that didn't grow at all over the course of a year and the baby has the same black outfit on. ;) What's that all about? :confused:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073747/

:D

[RailroadJoe]

Why not a spruce tree with decorations. That should satisfy everyone including the US government.

A friend I knew called it a Hunnaka bush, I think he was pulling my leg. Is there such a one?

[SteveA]

Why not a spruce tree with decorations. That should satisfy everyone including the US government.

A friend I knew called it a Hunnaka bush, I think he was pulling my leg. Is there such a one?

Yes, and becoming more common in many Jewish homes. Even has decoration advice here...
http://www.ehow.com/how_5637_decorate-hanukkah-bush.html

And having said that ....I'll give myself an... :offtopic:

[TOAD]

very observant for 5 in the morning lol
is strange tho

IT'S ALIENS I TELL YA!!!...ALIENS!!!....ALIENS AT WORK !!!!!! :eek::devil:


http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Funny%20Animated%20Emoticons/crazy%20homer%20face.gif

[fatlazyless]

Mitt and his wife were in Ashland, NH, the exact geographic center of New Hampshire, yesterday evening, giving an energized stand-up routine to a room full of reporters, and locals. By the time I rolled through Ashland, I stopped after seeing the two big Romney buses, and all the police, and walked up to the American Legion Hall there to take a look-see. Unfortunately, the entry door was locked with what probably was security guard on the inside, a stocky guy in a medium grey suit & tie. Anyway, the Legion Hall has two large picture windows, so it was pretty interesting to watch it all from the outside without any audio, just the body languauge and the presentation. It looked like a very high-powered event, what with all the news people, two campaign buses, satelite trucks, police and you know what ...... I bet you ten thousand dollars there will be a 30-second clip of it on today's tv news, or something! ... .;)

[MAXUM]

...... I bet you ten thousand dollars there will be a 30-second clip of it on today's tv news, or something! ... .;)

Wow this from the fellow that loves Wal-Mart? I would have figured you for a 10 dollar bet :rolleye2:

[Smith Point]

If Mitt wins the only thing that I can imagine is, that the marine patrol will double, with state police on board, coast guard cutters allover the place, navy seals tooling around, secret service marine division stopping every vessel within a ¼ of a mile of mitts place. Just going to Wolfeboro for a ice cream cone would be a nightmare wondering if your going to get torpedoed out of the water!
In my opinion Mr. Romney is the best person to for the job at hand, but should I vote for a another candidate for my own selfish reasons to save the way of life I have been accustom to on the lake?

[phoenix]

Kennebunkport seems to have survived and i suspect will help property values when they show images from the lake. Vote who you think will help the country the best and see where it goes

[Belmont Resident]

Kennebunkport seems to have survived and i suspect will help property values when they show images from the lake. Vote who you think will help the country the best and see where it goes

I heard from those involved that he has personal interrests in the Northern pass project and would like to see it go thru. Sad..

[Grandpa Redneck]

I have plenty of reasons NOT to vote for Mitt, and the Lake has absolutely nothing to do with them. 2A Lies to start with. Only one candidate has NH values of Liberty, Freedom and Frugality, and the record to show he means what he says.

[Pineedles]

Please don't get into a political debate here. This thread is to discuss the imaginable and the unimaginable (read that as funny and or serious) consequences of having a presidential retreat here on the lake.

[Zeke]

One real change will be regarding airspace control, especially if he were around, possible even family members. A no fly zone is usually in place around the residence of a president, wherever that may be at the time. It could possibly affect access to Laconia airport when he was here. I remember when George Walker visited many years back, the airspace was shut down, and that was just for a visit.

[Lucky1]

MY FRIENDS: This is NOT a problem. Just vote for The ONE...and the lake will not be affected. :D :D NB

But the country will be.

[Lucky1]

Please don't get into a political debate here. This thread is to discuss the imaginable and the unimaginable (read that as funny and or serious) consequences of having a presidential retreat here on the lake.

I think it would be lovely to have a president have a summer White House on our wonderful lake. Certainly it will get us national attention.

[Belmont Resident]

I think it would be lovely to have a president have a summer White House on our wonderful lake. Certainly it will get us national attention.

This is the same guy who several years ago had off duty Mass state troopers patrolling the waters off of his property illegally keeping boaters away. The waters of NH are a public right of way; we do not need over bearing arrogant politicians keeping order with their own private out of state police force.
If he was to get elected and visits the lake I think you will find a lot of unhappy inconvenienced boaters and drivers on that side of the lake.

[Pineedles]

This is important to know, if it happened.

This is the same guy who several years ago had off duty Mass state troopers patrolling the waters off of his property illegally keeping boaters away.

Can you provide us with evidence of this happening?

[Flylady]

If he were elected what make anyone think of all of the places he might go (with little vacation time) is to the lake. Safe bet if it were to happen it would be a short stay!

[Greene's Basin Girl]

If he were elected what make anyone think of all of the places he might go (with little vacation time) is to the lake. Safe bet if it were to happen it would be a short stay!
I agree. Mitt is building a huge house in California. Once the NH primary is over it may be out of sight out of mind for Mitt, especially if he wins the presidency. My guess is that he won't be here very much.

[robmac]

I remember when that happened,I think Don reposted it earlier in this thread

[Belmont Resident]

This is important to know, if it happened.

This is the same guy who several years ago had off duty Mass state troopers patrolling the waters off of his property illegally keeping boaters away.

Can you provide us with evidence of this happening?

His actions made the news in both states and had many in this area shaking our heads at his actions. It was several years ago and was a topic on the forum.

[tis]

Well one thing I will be willing to bet if he becomes president: He will not go to the dump-er transfer station- in his old clothes anymore.

Nor will he be able to just pop in to the local hardware store or lumberyard.

[Pineedles]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PROPELLER
Islander, I remember when Governor Romney put out swim lines 2 years ago & some neighbors kayaked inside the swim line & some fishermen fished inside the swim line. When he complained I recall that it was stated on this website that they did nothing illegal. Maybe discourtious but not illegal.

Reply by Islander:
As I remember it, the Massachusetts State Police detail guarding the Govenor put out those lines without a permit. That is why a boat could legally enter the area.

Below is a copy of the swim line rules. Boats are not allowed in swim areas. They also require that only the shore front property owner can obtain a permit. This shows the property owner has rights to the lake that others do not have.
________________________

Saf-C 404.08 Swim Lines.

(a) No person shall operate a boat within any permitted swim line on any public body of water.

(b) No person shall put or place a swim line in the public waters of any public body of water without prior written approval of the director.

(c) An application for a swim line permit, DSSS 41, shall be submitted to the director by the shore front property owner, or a duly authorized agent.

The above is a discussion between PROPELLER and Islander in the Diver Flag thread of the boating section. It ocurred in 2005. It is the only reference I could find in the forum in a search of Romney and Police.

[upthesaukee]

We won't have to be aggravated by not being able to dock in Wolfeboro while looking at the handicap dock empty:laugh:. We won't be able to get by the armada blocking Wolfeboro bay.

[Little Bear]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-romney-wolfeborotre80901o-20120109,0,6165701.story

[rdant]

From a private pilot's perspective, with Mitt as Prez, it won't be a good thing around the lake. Since 9/11, the Secret Service applies large area flight restrictions around the President where ever he goes.

So, I hope he's nowhere close by during the Winter Festival at Alton Bay, because there will be no Ice Runway flyin. And access in and out of Laconia Airport will likely be restricted.

[MAXUM]

Or how about the 4th of July? No fireworks?

[riverat]

Or how about the 4th of July? No fireworks?

No he said he likes to "fire" them.

[Pineedles]

At sometime we WILL atract his attention, and hopefully he will address our concerns.:)

[HomeWood]

It appears we are closer to possibly finding out.. He won NH.

[Kamper]

This question has gone 'Main Stream.'

http://news.yahoo.com/wolfeboro-nh-braces-possible-white-house-north-002708834.html

[Charlie T]

In the long run if he wins it will raise property values in the area as well as the "American Spirit" and our overall standard of living in the entire country. Bring him on!

[Greene's Basin Girl]

On Fox last night they stated that Romney's summer house was in Belknap County. Do those reporter's from out of town know anything????

[joey2665]

I also heard that on Fox and said the same thing to my wife.

[tis]

We also heard that and said the same thing! Doesn't that once again prove how much you can believe of what you hear in the news????

[upthesaukee]

Maybe the same architect that designed the Walmart Plaza in Gilford/Laconia also designed Mitt's house, and there is a corner of the property that is Alton :D.

[tis]

:laugh::laugh: But not even very close to the Alton line!

[Mink Islander]

On Fox last night they stated that Romney's summer house was in Belknap County. Do those reporter's from out of town know anything????

Is that a rhetorical question???

[patman]

On Fox last night they stated that Romney's summer house was in Belknap County. Do those reporter's from out of town know anything????

Naaw. It's just the Fox (faux?) news reporters in general that don't know anything. :D:D

[Redwing]

If Romney does become President, and there are restrictions at Laconia Airport, I wonder how this will impact the Noonans' skydiving efforts?

[Bizer]

Is this the right thread to post this question???

During the recent campaigning, did Mitt stay at his own house at all?

[miketerrain]

If he becomes president and he decides to vacation there, it won't be fun to drive,walk or even boat in the area. The reality is that the Secret Service will make it a huge frozen zone. They don't care if people have been there since the 1950's and disrupting peoples lives. I've been in an areas when both President Bush and Obama comes to town, it's not a fun commute. As far as boating, there will be a huge area that will be shut down to the public. There will be plenty state, local and secret service personal on boats protecting the waterfront.
But on a lighter note. If the Secret Service believes they can't ensure his safety and secure the surrounding perimeter, they won't let him stay there. Hopefully it's the latter scenario.

[Grant]

On a related note (I probably mentioned this before), if any of you divers like exploring Clark Point, this will DEFINITELY be out of the question during a Romney administration. But if you're down for an adventure, I'm sure a dive there would result in a very quick encounter with a Navy Seal diver. :eek:

[AC2717]

One might think, that if it is unknown that he is there, there would be no attention to be drawn to the area, and therefore no big deal,

which is the way I would want to have it.

[Merrymeeting]

My in-laws live in Kennebunkport. For the most part, the impact was negligable when George Sr was president.

As others have suggested, while he was in office he spent minimal time there. When he was there, he tended to stay in his own compound.

If anything, the shop owners complained that it actually hurt business. People assumed it would be bad so they stayed away.

[alsadad]

January 2013
Immediately following the inauguration, the government shuts down all websites featuring aerial images of the lake and closes Laconia Airport to all non-military traffic. In an unlikely alliance, Skydive Laconia joins forces with Flyguy to pepper the FAA with prank calls (Is your De Havilland Canada DHC-2Beaver running? Better catch it!).

February 2013
After completely restoring the American economy in just two weeks, President Romney jets away for a well-deserved vacation. Four Secret Service agents, disguised as typical New Hampshire ice fishermen (RayBans, black overcoats, wing tips and Uzis) are rescued from the waters off of Clark Point when a sudden thaw weakens the ice. WinniDivers boasts its best winter season ever after recovering three Suburbans, two anti-aircraft missile emplacements, and Marine One from under the ice. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires a controlling interest in WinniDivers.

March 2013
Vice President Gingrich resigns after the Laconia Citizen exposes his dalliance with a waitress at the Wolfeboro Inn. The resulting publicity boosts sales beyond even George Soderberg’s wildest dreams. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires a controlling interest in the Inn.

April 1, 2013
President Romney announces his nominee to replace Gingrich – our own Bear Islander. BI promptly takes to the airwaves to propose a Constitutional Amendment that would permit camp directors nationwide to unilaterally impose no-wake zones of up to 2 miles in diameter around any waterfront camp. President Romney also announces his nomination for a vacancy on the Supreme Court – Ralph Nader. Fortunately, this all turns out to be an elaborate April Fools joke, except for the part about BI as VP and except for the part about the Constitutional Amendment. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital acquires Camp Lawrence, Camp Nokomis, Camp Tecumseh and Camp.

May 2013
President Romney takes another well-deserved vacation on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee. In a surprising move, SBONH endorses a lake-wide no-wake zone to facilitate security precautions for the NH White House. In an equally surprising move, the “lame-stream liberals” at WINNFABS oppose the restrictions and distribute T-shirts with their new slogan: Live Free, as long as it’s under 45. Easter Seals announces the suspension of its lake-related fund raising activities, sensing that a “Poker Paddle” just won’t have the same draw. Sensing a golden business opportunity, Bain Capital…oh, never mind. Even they can’t figure out how to make money off of this.

June 2013
Waterfront property values take an enormous hit from the lake-wide no-wake zone. Or maybe values skyrocket, I’m not sure which. In either event, WINNFABS releases a statement saying, “Nyah, Nyah, we told you so.” Sensing a golden business opportunity, disgraced former Texas Governor Perry establishes a real estate firm in Wolfeboro and reminds residents that the three most important considerations in real estate are “Location, location and, uh,… I forget the other one.”

July 4, 2013
Responding to a frantic report from Clark Point of “shots fired” the CIA launches a protective drone attack. Due to an unfortunate misunderstanding concerning map coordinates, the drones destroy the Mount Washington Observatory rather than the intended target, the “Wolfeboro Fireworks Barge Sponsored by Bain Capital.”

August 2013
Espousing the virtues of bringing private sector values (CEO style) to the government, President Romney takes yet another vacation at Clark Point, where he announces plans to attend ForumFest. The Secret Service agrees only after FLL and APS agree to stay home. An unfortunate incident occurs on the boat ride to Center Harbor when, mistaking it for an Iranian aircraft carrier, a Navy escort submarine torpedoes the “Bain Capital Presents the MV Mount Washington.”

September 2013
President Romney graciously allows Bill and Hillary Clinton to use his lake home as a retreat in an attempt to rekindle their romance. Unfortunately, a recently laid-off waitress from the Bain Capital Inn at Wolfeboro saunters by in a string bikini and, well, you don’t need me to predict the rest of this little nugget. In an unrelated development, BI abruptly resigns as VP to compete on “Survivor: Governors Island.”

October 2013
October seems like a quiet month at the lake until the annual water level reduction reveals an underwater prison cell inhabited by Ron Paul, who had disappeared from public view after the Florida primary. This revelation puts the lie to the stories circulated in the press that little green men from another universe had reclaimed Ron Paul and taken him home to be the chief economic advisor to the supreme leader of the planet Latipacniab.

November 2013
Nothing happened. Really. It’s November. In NH.

December 2013
The state coffers are empty. The Governor thought the influx of tourist dollars would never end, but the month of November brought it all to a screeching halt. When the state can’t make the monthly payment, creditors repossess the White Mountains which he mortgaged to buy the Parthenon from cash-strapped Greece and to install indoor plumbing for the Governor’s Mansion. In a last ditch effort to make the state payroll, the Governor attempts to pawn Quebec, which he won in a drunken poker game with Prime Minister Harper, but no one will take it. Fearing a loss on their New Hampshire investments, Bain Capital steps in and buys Quebec, renaming it “La Belle Province Offert Par Capital du Bain.” A grateful Governor Lynch changes the state motto to “Buy low, slash jobs, sell high.”

[camp guy]

I hate to display all my naivete at once, but I just don't think Mr Romney is the type of person who would demand a lot of "pomp and circumstance" around him when elected President; although, it may be that powers beyond his immediate control (ie., Secret Service protection details) would enact some level of isolation simply because he is the President.

A lot of people in Wolfeboro are somewhat used to seeing him at the local stores and transfer station, or bicycling in his neighborhood, or walking near his home, and he just seems like the type of person who would want to continue this pattern of behavior.

Hopefully, people would leave him alone when he is in Town.

[ishoot308]

OMG Alsadad!!! My stomach hurts from laughing so much!! That has to be the funniest thing ever posted on this forum!!! How in the world did you put that all together!!

Thanks for a great laugh!!!

Dan

[crowsnest]

OMG Alsadad!!! My stomach hurts from laughing so much!! That has to be the funniest thing ever posted on this forum!!! How in the world did you put that all together!!

Thanks for a great laugh!!!

Dan

He must have had a tennis match with Fatlazyless on the Wal-mart side of the lake !!!! :D

[Belmont Resident]

He must have had a tennis match with Fatlazyless on the Wal-mart side of the lake !!!! :D

I heard FLL was one of those displaced during his corporate takeovers, he's been in seclusion ever since. Poor guy’s never been the same since.:emb:

[SAMIAM]

All time funniest post on the forum...laughing so hard I can't see the keyboard from the tears.

[Smith Point]

Somehow your predictions don’t seem so far from the truth.

[Pineedles]

Hilarious! I can't stop laughing over Perry's, location, location, uhhhh.:laugh::laugh:

[songkrai]

Three years ago Romney bought the La Jolla, California oceanfront home of a former San Diego Mayor and her "Jack In The Box" founder husband. The 3000+ sq. ft., $12,000,000 property will be bulldozed to make way for a 12,000 sq. ft. "West Coast White House" (Maybe) It is in close proximity to the San Diego Mormon Temple and according to Mitt....he wants to be where he can hear the waves! Close to SD Airport for AF One....and all those Camp Pendleton Marines just up the road... What does this mean for the Romney "camp" on Lake Winnipesaukee?

Bingo. This is going to be it. NH lake home probably only a tactic. A sideline in his goals. Of course, his extended family may use the lake home. I have no idea what security will be instituted for just family members.

I visited area up close to former President Nixons home in San Clemente, California. And security was quite tight with cameras everywhere on all nearby streets. Friends and I stopped on public street unknowing that Nixons home was nearby. Police arrived in less then one minute. Nixon was not there. This was at night and none of us saw any signs.

I visited area near President Nixons home in Key Biscayne, Florida. Near Miami, Florida. Again cameras everywhere with signs that stated No Stopping Do not get out of vehicle. As a young curious person I stopped and got out. On all utility poles were loud speakers. And over the loud speaker came the stern words - Get back into you car NOW. Nixon was not there. We promptly left the area. Key Biscayne is quite nice.

[Pontoon Goon]

Alsadad if The Forum had a hall of fame for posts that would be first ballot material. Well done.:laugh:

[NoBozo]

Alsadad could be Dave Barry in disguise. :D :D NB

[SteveA]

:cheers:That needs to be published in the Union Leader, or maybe some newspaper that people really read, like the Laconia Sun.

With material like that you could write for Stephen Colbert, I heard he was running! :laugh::laugh:

[ushaggerb]

Apparently, even people in LA find Mitt's Wolfeboro residency an interesting topic.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/10/nation/la-na-hometown-wolfeboro-20110710

I wouldn't read much into the Times article. Not front page news. Neither is Romney out here. L. A. doesn't pay attention to much but itself.

If you ask me what will happen to the Lake if Romney wins, it will gain some notice, as in how Kennebunkport did with the Bush's. However, nobody West of the Mississippi really has a clue where Kennebunkport is, they didn't schedule a trip to go see it, buy real estate out there, or anything of the sort.

The Lake is still a well-kept secret in the Western U.S. I'd worry more about Adam Sandler talking about it than Romney.

The flip side: if Romney loses, nobody's going to think that the Lake is some sort of 3-mile Island.

[alsadad]

Alsadad could be Dave Barry in disguise. :D :D NB

Thanks, NB. I'm not but I'm flattered by the comparison and glad that some of you enjoyed it.:) It was fun putting it together.

[Steveo]

We don't have to wait for Romney to become President we can see what it will be like this summer:



TAMPA - Mitt Romney's presidential campaign has been informed that it will start receiving Secret Service protection on Thursday, two campaign sources and a senior Republican tell ABC News.

Secret Service protection is being given to the campaign not because of a specific threat but because of the increase in crowd sizes as the primary season has progressed over the past few weeks, according to the sources, who refused to be identified because they don't have authority to comment on such matters publicly.

The Secret Service is charged with protecting presidential candidates in addition to the president himself, and providing protection to a candidate before he secures a nomination has become fairly common. Such decisions are made by the Department of Homeland Security, in consultation with congressional leadership.

The Romney campaign, which has long traveled with private security of its own, did not request Service protection, and was approached about the additional security steps in the weeks following the New Hampshire primary, the sources told ABC News.

Officials with the campaign and the Secret Service declined to comment on the decision.

Romney will become the only current Republican candidate with Secret Service protection. Herman Cain became the first candidate to receive Service protection, in November, but he ended his candidacy in December.

[bigdog]

Latest on newswire: Mitt Romney to Receive Secret Service Protection

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/exclusive-mitt-romney-to-receive-secret-service-protection/

The Lake may not be the same this summer with those Secret Service boats and helicopters patroling the waters.

Could be real busy this summer around Wolfeboro ! :)

Bigdog

[CateP]

I think Mitt is going to be really busy campaigning all over the country this summer and may be here LESS than he usually is.

[tis]

I think Mitt is going to be really busy campaigning all over the country this summer and may be here LESS than he usually is.

I thought the same thing. I don't think Mitt will be around the lake much this summer.

[AC2717]

I thought the same thing. I don't think Mitt will be around the lake much this summer.

Or next summer after he wins, he will be busy getting us back into shape

[tis]

Or next summer after he wins, he will be busy getting us back into shape

Let's hope so. We sure need to get back into shape!!!!!!!!!!!

[Belmont Resident]

Let's hope so. We sure need to get back into shape!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope so too, with all the negative BS he slings.

[Coolbreeze]

B-S is B-S... regardless of it being positive or negative. It all still is B-S.

[MAXUM]

So President Mitt is welcome, but he can't bring any friends.

Won't have to worry about Newt coming over for dinner that's for sure ;)

[RLW]

It sounds to me that there is more politics starting to come into the thread than concerns about the lake.:)

[Pineedles]

Well boys and girls if you haven't heard, Rick Santorum just bowed out. Romney is the defacto GOP nominee now. Wonder if he'll be visiting the lake this summer? He's welcome on my dock to watch the Independence Day Centre Harbor fireworks. Maybe that'll take some of the stress off the Wolfeboro residents, at least for the day. :laugh:

[SteveA]

Well boys and girls if you haven't heard, Rick Santorum just bowed out. Romney is the defacto GOP nominee now. Wonder if he'll be visiting the lake this summer? He's welcome on my dock to watch the Independence Day Centre Harbor fireworks. Maybe that'll take some of the stress off the Wolfeboro residents, at least for the day. :laugh:

If he shows up for the fireworks, can you please invite me, so I can explain to him that dogs shouldn't be strapped to the top of a station wagon? :rolleye1:

I'd also like to ask him.. "If the trees are just the right height in Michigan, what do you think of the height of our trees here at Winni?" ;)

[AC2717]

Bring on Obama!!!!!

[Pineedles]

First off, of course you're invited Steve! But, I was trying to take some of the stress off the southern residents of the lake by having him up north. If you corner him while he is here he might make an unexpected trip back to Wolfeboro and I would hate to see a barage of PT boats with bow guns blazin' to clear a path back home. :laugh:

[no-engine]

FYI!

Whatever aircraft carries President of United States, it is always known as Air Force One or Marine One.
Laconia is far too short for the usual aircraft, as we see in media
Pease would be the airport of choice. It was resurfaced just as elder Bush was becoming President. Pease has a military presence which none of us are aware the extent! And can be beefed up.

[jrc]

The big 747 often used as Air Force One won't be able to land at Laconia, there are too many parachutes landing there. :D:D

[ITD]

Actually, for the elder Bush, while Pease was used for the 747, at least one other closer to Kennebunk small airport had an interesting "presence". I used to see them when I was flying a small airplane. I would suspect Laconia would have a "presence" also if Mitt gets elected.

[Rusty]

The topic of this thread is: "What happens to the lake if Romney wins?"

My answer is: It get polluted.

[SIKSUKR]

FYI!

Laconia is far too short for the usual aircraft,

This might be the perfect push the Noonans need to get approval for Skydive Laconia. Hey, Mitt waterskis so why not pull a parachute after jumping out of Airforce 1?:laugh:

[SteveA]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-summer-vacation-full-of-competitive-sports-and-family-meetings/2012/06/30/gJQAsDFDEW_story.html

This will be interesting. Even though I do not want him to be President, I do hope he enjoys his stay at the lake. Politics aside, he seems like a good family man.

[tis]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-summer-vacation-full-of-competitive-sports-and-family-meetings/2012/06/30/gJQAsDFDEW_story.html

This will be interesting. Even though I do not want him to be President, I do hope he enjoys his stay at the lake. Politics aside, he seems like a good family man.

I agree, he seems like a good family man.

You always hear on the news how stuffy he is. When he is in Wolfeboro, he is not stuffy at all. He acts just like the rest of us. He goes into the local hardware store, lumberyard, dive store. He goes to the dump since his "son's aren't always around to do it any more". He wears his old clothes just like the rest of us. No stuffy tie and suit around Wolfeboro. Most people that I know like him and Ann. They fit right in. Really. :)

[RLW]

The topic of this thread is: "What happens to the lake if Romney wins?"

My answer is: It get polluted.


No, we celebrate

[tis]

We went by his house by boat today and there were two MP boats out there. One was an old work type boat-big though and the other was a chaser boat. We also went to Robert's Cove to check out the loon baby but couldn't find it. The artificial nest is still there and I had said before it had a rope in place to hold it, but I think it must have an anchor. The rope must have been holding the nesting loon sign beside it. Has anyone seen any babies yet? Sorry, this is not a loon thread. Forget I asked. :)

[NH_boater]

I saw a motorcade blasting thru Alton on Saturday, state police cruiser, three suburbans and another St police cruiser. All had lights flashing and were traveling at a high rate of speed. Coming from W'boro. My first thought: Mitt sighting.

[RailroadJoe]

That was just me going home. sorry about the tie up.

[tis]

That cracked me up Railroad. And we thought it was Mitt. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[NHskier]

There's an article on this in today's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/02/us/politics/for-wolfeboro-nh-its-not-just-another-romney-summer.html?_r=1&hp

[songkrai]

Is the Romny house done in California?
"Plans for the expansion, first reported by Politico and later obtained by The New York Times from a rival campaign, include a split-level, four-car garage with a “car lift,” an outdoor shower, and a 3,600-square-foot basement.

A visit to the Romneys’ beachside property on Monday — one of three properties Mr. Romney and his wife, Ann, own — revealed a modest home for the wealthy enclave (at least from a street view) at the end of a quiet cul-de-sac. But an official city “Notice of Application” from April 2010 highlighted the changes to come: plans to “demolish the existing residence and construct a new, approximately 8,105-square-foot, single-family residence on a 0.41 acre site.”

LINK (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/for-romney-a-four-car-garage-with-its-own-elevator)

Here is a nice picture of Romney's summer home in California.

LINK (http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/mitt-romney.php?housephotos=3)


Where do you think he will spend his summers? The 8,105 square foot new one with automobile elevator right on the ocean or the one in NH?

[SteveA]

Where do you think he will spend his summers? The 8,105 square foot new one with automobile elevator right on the ocean or the one in NH?

No Republican will win California, so my guess would be NH.

Republicans won California from 1952 - 1988 (only exception was Goldwater).
Dems have had the state every since 1992. As the Latino population continues to grow, the state will most likely stay DEM.

[RailroadJoe]

Me thinks New Hampshire. Much too crowded over there in Calif. He would want a little privacy.

[HellRaZoR004]

Me thinks New Hampshire. Much too crowded over there in Calif. He would want a little privacy.

I agree. Those houses look stacked on top of each other.

[Pam]

Pictures of Romney's vacay on Politico:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/07/photo-of-the-day-romneys-on-a-jet-ski-127880.html

[Bizer]

There's an article on this in today's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/02/us/politics/for-wolfeboro-nh-its-not-just-another-romney-summer.html?_r=1&hp

The first words of that article are "Coast Guard", my old alma mater. Has the Coast Guard been on the lake? How about the Coast Guard Auxiliary, a volunteer boating safety organization? No one on the forum has mentioned this at all.

[tis]

The first words of that article are "Coast Guard", my old alma mater. Has the Coast Guard been on the lake? How about the Coast Guard Auxiliary, a volunteer boating safety organization? No one on the forum has mentioned this at all.

No Coast Guard boats. But maybe CG people are manning MP boats? The big boat anchored said MP on the side. The chase boat was very close and maybe tied up to the big boat and was on the land side but it also didn't look like anything I have seen on the lake. It has two big outboards on the back. Someone said today they saw the boats being hauled in which makes sense.

[Pineedles]

I'll be taking a bi-plane ride over the lake on Thursday. Christmas gift from my daughter. I imagine there will restricted airspace over the compound. I have no problem with that.:)

[Merrymeeting]

Seeing this stuff so close to home, it really makes you wonder why anyone would want the job.

Can you imagine being watched and photographed every moment you were out on your dock/beach or in town? No thanks!

[Smith Point]

Lets face it he is one of us. Family man, (my grandfather had a photo op on every departure) long time resident (we have been on the lake 100 years this year) likes water sports (avid water skier) (how old is he?) obviously like the lake. (When you have the recourses to go any where in the world for vacation where do you go?) Hope he likes the Wolfeboro fire works this year.

[Mr. V]

I just hope Wolfeboro has enough "sporting ladies" to keep those Secret Service fellows out of trouble.

After all, Wolfeboro isn't Cartagena.

[Irish mist]

Lets face it he is one of us. Family man, (my grandfather had a photo op on every departure) long time resident (we have been on the lake 100 years this year) likes water sports (avid water skier) (how old is he?) obviously like the lake. (When you have the recourses to go any where in the world for vacation where do you go?) Hope he likes the Wolfeboro fire works this year.

Mitt is 65. We should all look so good at his age:)

[RailroadJoe]

Just one of the prices paid for fame and fortune. I never worry about it.

[SteveA]

I'll be taking a bi-plane ride over the lake on Thursday. Christmas gift from my daughter. I imagine there will restricted airspace over the compound. I have no problem with that.:)

Mrs. SteveA and her Mom did the Bi-Plane ride last summer. They loved it! They flew over towards Center Harbor.

[Kamper]

... obviously like the lake. (When you have the recourses to go any where in the world for vacation where do you go?) ...

Isn't his place still on the market?

[gtxrider]

I was watching the news while getting ready for work this morning and low and behold a picture of the Romneys on a jetski and it appeared they were near the Mount dock in Wolfeboro. I could see the bridge going to the pack bay. Another shot was of a MP boat (the one that looks like a BIG INFLATABLE)

[tis]

If you are talking about Romneys' place I don't think it is on the market.

The boat parked in back of the big MP boat look liked one of those inflatables. It was hard to see that one though. I could see the big two motors but not much else other than it did look red and it did look like an inflatable. Was the one you saw red? It was tiny compared to the big one in front of it. I am thinking that one might be a CG boat???

[HellRaZoR004]

If you are talking about Romneys' place I don't think it is on the market.

The boat parked in back of the big MP boat look liked one of those inflatables. It was hard to see that one though. I could see the big two motors but not much else other than it did look red and it did look like an inflatable. Was the one you saw red? It was tiny compared to the big one in front of it. I am thinking that one might be a CG boat???

Looks like a MP boat.
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/07/02/embattled-bank-chief-pulls-out-mitt-romney-fund-raiser/feVhOSPx20n8IhsQEHexxH/picture.html

http://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2012/07/02/BostonGlobe.com/Politics/Images/romney2.jpg

[gtxrider]

Here is another.


They guy in orange with the binogulars does not seem to watching the jetski!

At the bridge in Wolfeboro. Thats the picture I saw on the news this AM

[SIKSUKR]

Oh ya.Mitts my man now.If this candidate rides PWC's...with the wife driving...well wow...no macho man complex.:laugh:I wish I was in the shape he is.

[tis]

Great pics. Thanks for posting. Glad to finally see the CG boat.

[Jonas Pilot]

Good thing she didn't listen to him. Mitt kept on saying, "To the right, to the right!";)

[CTYankee]

What do you suppose those secret service guys are really looking for with those binoculars?

[Rattlesnake Guy]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/04/article-2168478-13E65E9A000005DC-880_634x418.jpg

UK Mail Article with (9) lots of AP pics.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168478/Mitt-Romney-eats-ice-cream-photo-op-friendly-family-vacation.html
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/04/article-2168478-13E65A0F000005DC-832_634x424.jpg

[laketrout]

Great pics. Thanks for posting. Glad to finally see the CG boat.

The boat in the above picture is a NH Marine Patrol boat. The attached is a picture of one of the two US Coast Gaurd boats they brought up last week.

George

[tis]

Thank you lake. The orange one and the big silver MP were the ones in front of his house when we went by.

[Altonbayicefishingfool]

What do you suppose those secret service guys are really looking for with those binoculars?

Brazilian prostitutes on Brewster beach...

[NoBozo]

The boat in the above picture is a NH Marine Patrol boat. The attached is a picture of one of the two US Coast Gaurd boats they brought up last week.

George

See those upright posts on the bow and stern..?? Thats where..in a Heartbeat..15 seconds..they will mount a 50 Cal Machine Gun....:) NB

[WinniTroll]

Mitt hung in Maine. Between his hub-bub and the flagrant display of Marine Patrol and the S.S. I need some antacids. The parade was a real 'Mitt' Show this morning....:coolsm:

[laketrout]

See those upright posts on the bow and stern..?? Thats where..in a Heartbeat..15 seconds..they will mount a 50 Cal Machine Gun....:) NB

Your right on..

[tis]

The parade was long (an hour and a half) but I was very disappointed in the floats. People used to decorate them and they looked so pretty. Now they just stick a sign on and that is it. I think they should at least put some streamers on or something. Libby Museum had some trees and animals and one other float had a tree but other than that, there weren't any decorations. Mitt was last before the fire trucks, but I think it might have been better to have him first and end the anticipation. But maybe they thought people would leave.