Five More Islands

webmaster · 11-21-2013, 03:51 PM

How many islands are on the lake? 365? 274? Several different numbers are thrown around, many based on folklore.

This site has always used Bizer's list of the islands on Lake Winnipesaukee as the official number posted on our homepage. The count was at 253 until recently but has now jumped to 258. From the Bizer website:

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In the summer of 2013, Ron Guilmette and his nephew took it upon themselves to kyack to all the islands and to photograph them. Ron added five islands to the list and offered corrections to the list as well.

Think about that. Ron and his nephew kayaked to 258 islands this summer! Anyone want to double-check his findings?

Happy Gourmand · 11-21-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

How many islands are on the lake? 365? 274? Several different numbers are thrown around, many based on folklore.

This site has always used Bizer's list of the islands on Lake Winnipesaukee as the official number posted on our homepage. The count was at 253 until recently but has now jumped to 258. From the Bizer website:

Think about that. Ron and his nephew kayaked to 258 islands this summer! Anyone want to double-check his findings?

I think he missed one and needs to start over!!

tis · 11-21-2013, 03:53 PM

That is pretty amazing!

RLW · 11-21-2013, 04:33 PM

I believe any mathematical number should always double checked and not by the original maker of the numbers. I would be more than happy to do it but being disabled and cannot swim I will decline to except the responsibility. Any other takers????

bclaker · 11-21-2013, 05:01 PM

Was the count made before or after draw down?

ITD · 11-21-2013, 05:20 PM

And they keep telling us they don't make land anymore......

RLW · 11-21-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bclaker

Was the count made before or after draw down?

Dam good question!!!

Slickcraft · 11-21-2013, 06:09 PM

I'm wondering if there is an accepted definition of what constitutes and island on Winni.

I would assume that there is some minimum square footage above the reference line. For example I assume that a certain rock between Round and Forty is not an island but then what is?

salty dog · 11-21-2013, 06:37 PM

Anyone seen any large disturbance or smoke on the lake lately?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vllHh...2PQDCqC7yfHAIg

Lakeboater · 11-21-2013, 06:47 PM

Japan got a new island so winni might as well!

upthesaukee · 11-21-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft

I'm wondering if there is an accepted definition of what constitutes and island on Winni.

I would assume that there is some minimum square footage above the reference line. For example I assume that a certain rock between Round and Forty is not an island but then what is?

There must be vegetation on the "rock" to be an island.

JasonG · 11-21-2013, 10:26 PM

Very cool

Dumb question, as I am sure this has been covered, but how is it that in 2013 there is still uncertainty with the island count? Is it a matter of simply missing them or based on a changing definition?

Thanks!

webmaster · 11-22-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft

I'm wondering if there is an accepted definition of what constitutes and island on Winni.

I would assume that there is some minimum square footage above the reference line. For example I assume that a certain rock between Round and Forty is not an island but then what is?

Bizer's definition is right on the page that I linked to:

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Our first task was to define what constitutes an island. What is the dividing line between a large rock and a small island? When does one island become two? Well, this is our definition; your results may vary: It must be surrounded by water at high lake in June; It must have vegetation (otherwise it's just a rock); Man made breakwaters do not count as islands, BUT we do count former natural islands where fill has been added to join two land masses; There must be at least a three foot height difference between the island's tallest point (including vegetation) and the surrounding water's shallowest depth (e.g. if the surrounding water is only 14 inches deep, the island must rise at least 22 inches above the surface).

BroadHopper · 11-22-2013, 01:35 PM

I wonder if there is a definition as to what is considered taxable property?

Should they tax a rock that is above water line at mean lake level or should it be x amount of square footage with vegetation? If anyone can find this piece of info than this should be the criteria for an island.

brk-lnt · 11-22-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I wonder if there is a definition as to what is considered taxable property?

No, that would limit their ability to levy taxes too much. Most towns go by a "we'll know it's taxable when we see it" philosophy.

11-21-2013, 04:33 PM	#4
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	I believe any mathematical number should always double checked and not by the original maker of the numbers. I would be more than happy to do it but being disabled and cannot swim I will decline to except the responsibility. Any other takers???? __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

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salty dog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly Cove, Ma Posts: 356 Thanks: 287 Thanked 147 Times in 81 Posts	New islands Anyone seen any large disturbance or smoke on the lake lately? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vllHh...2PQDCqC7yfHAIg __________________ I'd rather be relax'n at Winnipesaukee

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BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,512 Thanks: 3,118 Thanked 1,090 Times in 784 Posts	Definition I wonder if there is a definition as to what is considered taxable property? Should they tax a rock that is above water line at mean lake level or should it be x amount of square footage with vegetation? If anyone can find this piece of info than this should be the criteria for an island. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

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tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,411 Thanks: 719 Thanked 1,381 Times in 957 Posts	That is pretty amazing!

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bclaker Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Laconia Posts: 479 Thanks: 545 Thanked 147 Times in 66 Posts	Was the count made before or after draw down?

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ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,860 Thanks: 461 Thanked 666 Times in 366 Posts	And they keep telling us they don't make land anymore......

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Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and West Alton Posts: 3,218 Thanks: 1,175 Thanked 2,002 Times in 915 Posts	I'm wondering if there is an accepted definition of what constitutes and island on Winni. I would assume that there is some minimum square footage above the reference line. For example I assume that a certain rock between Round and Forty is not an island but then what is?

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Lakeboater Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 391 Thanks: 20 Thanked 130 Times in 93 Posts	Japan got a new island so winni might as well!

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JasonG Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 310 Thanks: 48 Thanked 45 Times in 33 Posts	Very cool Dumb question, as I am sure this has been covered, but how is it that in 2013 there is still uncertainty with the island count? Is it a matter of simply missing them or based on a changing definition? Thanks!

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