BB Gun attacks, again, on Union Ave Laconia

Irish mist · 01-19-2011, 05:41 PM

Just heard on WMUR about 2 BB gun attacks on Union Ave on passing cars by the local punks. Seems Laconia had the same issue a year or 2 ago......seems nothing much changes.

Winnipesaukee · 01-21-2011, 12:44 PM

...NH is a very gun-friendly state. It's only a short matter of time before a victim CCWing returns fire.

Kamper · 01-21-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnipesaukee

... ... . It's only a short matter of time before a victim CCWing returns fire.

If someone were to point a weapon at me, I'd assume it's dangerous unless obvious to me that it's not. Since I know what a "zip-gun" is, the tension would be very high until I was sure.

Irish mist · 01-21-2011, 03:27 PM

What gets me is that this is the same area (near the hospital) where the last attacks happened. The shots most likely are coming from one of the several three-deckers there. The LPD might want to ask the neighbors which local nitwit has a BB gun.

Lakesrider · 01-21-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnipesaukee

...NH is a very gun-friendly state. It's only a short matter of time before a victim CCWing returns fire.

I whole wholeheartedly agree and hope so.

ronc4424 · 01-22-2011, 02:30 PM

Laconia police arrest 15-year-old for shooting at cars with BB gun
By Gail Ober
Jan 22, 2011 12:00 am
LACONIA — Police have charged a 15-year-old male with two counts of criminal mischief and two counts of reckless conduct for allegedly shooting an air rifle (BB gun) at passing cars on Union Avenue Tuesday afternoon.

Sgt. Gary Hubbard said Patrol Officer Joe Marquis continued to question residents of the area and was able to identify the apartment from where the shots were fired.

"He investigated and found some witnesses who said the saw the barrel of the gun sticking out of a window," Hubbard said.

Hubbard said Marquis was able to recover the BB gun from the apartment.

Police said the incidents happened within one half hour of each other when two separate motorists reported their windshields had been struck by projectiles later identified to be consistent with BBs or pellets.

Hubbard said the boy was released to the custody of his mother and will appear in juvenile court next week.

In a letter to The Daily Sun editor published today (page 5), police Chief Mike Moyer said the juvenile would be "aggressively prosecuted".

This'nThat · 01-22-2011, 03:08 PM

"the boy was released to the custody of his mother"

Lakesrider · 01-22-2011, 04:25 PM

Should have put him in lock up for few nights......

Irish mist · 01-22-2011, 05:56 PM

Good job LPD

I figured it was some kid shooting from a window in one of those apartment buildings. LPD should have asked the neighbors 2 years ago who had the BB gun.....the neighbors knew. Anyway.....happy they got him.

Argie's Wife · 01-22-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by This'nThat

"the boy was released to the custody of his mother"

...he should be glad that his mother is not me... little monster...

Heaven · 01-22-2011, 09:05 PM

"He investigated and found some witnesses who said the saw the barrel of the gun sticking out of a window," Hubbard said.

This makes it sound like they waited until they were questioned instead of calling the station when they saw the damn thing. Hope that isn't the case

Irish mist · 01-22-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Heaven

"He investigated and found some witnesses who said the saw the barrel of the gun sticking out of a window," Hubbard said.

This makes it sound like they waited until they were questioned instead of calling the station when they saw the damn thing. Hope that isn't the case

My theory was/is that the neighbors' sort of knew all along who was doing the shooting. People, in general, are passive, so it does not surprise me that the police had to be pro-active in this case. The LPD should have been as pro-active 2 years ago when this punk was playng Oswald from his window.

Seeker · 01-23-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

...he should be glad that his mother is not me... little monster...

Problem is today in our PC world what can his mother or father give him - a time out or curfew. If I did that as a 15 year old I wouldn't be sitting down til I was 16. The parents will probably wind up paying for the windshields. He should be out shoveling snow to make enough money to pay for them.

NoBozo · 01-23-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeker

Problem is today in our PC world what can his mother or father give him - a time out or curfew. If I did that as a 15 year old I wouldn't be sitting down til I was 16. The parents will probably wind up paying for the windshields. He should be out shoveling snow to make enough money to pay for them.

In Rhode Island..We are taliking about "Licensing"..and showing proof of "$100,000 of Insurance" for anyone mowing lawns or shoveling snow. Minors included.

Kids selling lemonaid in the summer will probably be included in the bill. They have already been sited for selling without a license. You can't make up this CRAP... NB

RailroadJoe · 01-24-2011, 06:06 AM

Better make sure they cite those Girl Scouts for selling those cookies too!

Rusty · 01-24-2011, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

In Rhode Island..We are taliking about "Licensing"..and showing proof of "$100,000 of Insurance" for anyone mowing lawns or shoveling snow. Minors included.

So….. if I live in RI and the law passes the way you have written it I will have to have a license and show proof of 100K worth of insurance if I mow my lawn or shovel snow around my house?

Or…did you mean that if someone else other than the owner mows my lawn or shovels snow around my house this law will effect them?

Argie's Wife · 01-24-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe

Better make sure they cite those Girl Scouts for selling those cookies too!

Oh and don't forget the legal insurance lawsuits for the transfats that's in those cookies that Girl Scout is selling...

(Once again, I duck & run for cover behind my mug of coffee...)

tis · 01-24-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

In Rhode Island..We are taliking about "Licensing"..and showing proof of "$100,000 of Insurance" for anyone mowing lawns or shoveling snow. Minors included.

Kids selling lemonaid in the summer will probably be included in the bill. They have already been sited for selling without a license. You can't make up this CRAP... NB

How do they keep coming up with these laws that (I think) most of us don't want????? Or do a lot of people want them????

songkrai · 01-24-2011, 09:21 AM

The Men and Women in Blue worked like lightning on this one this time.

But it took a letter to editor from a Moultonborough resident back in 2008 to get them to take this kind of assault/crime seriously this time.

Interesting how this works.

songkrai · 01-24-2011, 09:38 AM

My LPD story.

Laconia.

Was with an older gentlemen in Laconia driving/shopping. We stopped at a local gas/store on Union Ave. He went in for one package of cigarettes. The person behind counter asked for ID. OK. That's fine. Even though gentleman was in his 60's - there may be a company policy to ask ALL for ID. Fine. So gentleman shows his current NH drivers license. The clerk/cashier wanted to take it and write it down. WHAT? The older gentelman stated that he would hold onto the drivers license but that clerk could be able to read the date of birth and view picture. NO. Clerk state that he needed to take drivers license and write down or place information into "computer". NO WAY. We left and drive directly to the Laconia Police Department.

Anyone ever been in there. Not user friendly. Nice lady behind the small bullit proof window stated that this has nothing to do with the police. I mentioned the crime of Identity Theft - by the way - Laconia did have a McD's employee stealing CC information.

My friend then asked for a police officer to speak to. Some bookworm came out and pooh poohed the whole thing. No big deal. If clerk in store wants to write down all the information from a customers drivers license then that is fine.

And a perception here: This Laconia officer seemed to exhibit the behavior or attittude that my friend was bothering him from real police work.

Maybe this is a grand over reaction on my age 60's friend. But Identity Theft is big business in the good ole USA.

In my opinion the LPD needs more than just a new building with a skateboard playground in back.

NoBozo · 01-24-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

So….. ?

Or…did you mean that if someone else other than the owner mows my lawn or shovels snow around my house this law will effect them?

YES, that's the way the "proposed" law is to be written.

They are also trying to define the difference between "Lawn Care" and "Landscaper". Some are saying that "Landscaper" requires Formal Education. Don't ask me to explain it..I Can't. NB

ClosetExtrovert · 01-24-2011, 10:20 AM

We had a carload of kids with 2 paintball guns trash our neighborhood. I didn't want them brought up on charges. I wanted them to wash the fences and houses they messed up in the middle of the blazing heat - with a toothbrush.

LIforrelaxin · 01-24-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

YES, that's the way the "proposed" law is to be written.

They are also trying to define the difference between "Lawn Care" and "Landscaper". Some are saying that "Landscaper" requires Formal Education. Don't ask me to explain it..I Can't. NB

Sounds like pretty typical liberal BS to me. It also sounds like the typical rhetoric of today's society. Nothing anymore is every and "accident" there is always someone to blame, and far be it that anyone pay for the the damages of an accident out of there pocket. Kids have been mowing lawns and shoveling snow to make a few extra bucks for years. Now it seems in RI that they want to make that 15 or 16 year kid the responsible party, if something happens. It sucks to have a rock flung from a mower into a window, or to have a slip on the ice. But it sucks more to know that little Johnny isn't going to be able to go over and help out his elderly neighbors with out having to have 100K of insurance, just in case he flings a rock into there window, or can't scrape the snow and ice down to absolute clean pavement.

On the flipside, little Johnny can figure out that if those elderly neighbors aren't home, and they have a protected window, that he can smash it climb in and grab a few things with out getting noticed.

Now I am not saying that we are breeding criminals, but what I am saying, is that this society strips more and more rights away from people, even kids... that they are creating an environment which leads to more crime. Why go out and work for 20K a year at burger king, when if your smart about it, you can steal 20K in a couple of months.

People in this country, have created the current state of society through selfishness and greed.. Hummm kind of sounds like why we separated from England over 200 years ago.... History has a way of repeating itself...

Anyways sorry to rant... I guess I am not moving to RI anytime soon, it sounds worse then Massachusetts.

Chickie · 01-24-2011, 10:48 AM

Remember the teenage boy, Michael Fay, who was caned for vandalizing cars in Singapore a few years ago? Caning is the routine punishment meted out for such things in that country. If you can receive that kind of punishment for scratching cars, just think what you would get for shooting at them? Wonder if it is time to think about stricter punishment for young hoodlums? Something they would long remember and make them think twice before doing it again.

01-19-2011, 05:41 PM	#1
Irish mist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 682 Thanks: 122 Thanked 85 Times in 49 Posts	BB Gun attacks, again, on Union Ave Laconia Just heard on WMUR about 2 BB gun attacks on Union Ave on passing cars by the local punks. Seems Laconia had the same issue a year or 2 ago......seems nothing much changes.

01-21-2011, 12:44 PM	#2
Winnipesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 233 Thanks: 14 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts	I've said it before and I'll say it again... ...NH is a very gun-friendly state. It's only a short matter of time before a victim CCWing returns fire. __________________ Sail fast, live slow!

01-22-2011, 02:30 PM	#6
ronc4424 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Danvers,Ma & Ashland,Nh Posts: 71 Thanks: 151 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts	crime solved Laconia police arrest 15-year-old for shooting at cars with BB gun By Gail Ober Jan 22, 2011 12:00 am LACONIA — Police have charged a 15-year-old male with two counts of criminal mischief and two counts of reckless conduct for allegedly shooting an air rifle (BB gun) at passing cars on Union Avenue Tuesday afternoon. Sgt. Gary Hubbard said Patrol Officer Joe Marquis continued to question residents of the area and was able to identify the apartment from where the shots were fired. "He investigated and found some witnesses who said the saw the barrel of the gun sticking out of a window," Hubbard said. Hubbard said Marquis was able to recover the BB gun from the apartment. Police said the incidents happened within one half hour of each other when two separate motorists reported their windshields had been struck by projectiles later identified to be consistent with BBs or pellets. Hubbard said the boy was released to the custody of his mother and will appear in juvenile court next week. In a letter to The Daily Sun editor published today (page 5), police Chief Mike Moyer said the juvenile would be "aggressively prosecuted". __________________ “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

01-22-2011, 03:08 PM	#7
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	Speaks volumes, doesn't it? "the boy was released to the custody of his mother"

01-24-2011, 10:20 AM	#22
ClosetExtrovert Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey where the weak are killed and eaten. Posts: 79 Thanks: 84 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	This past summer We had a carload of kids with 2 paintball guns trash our neighborhood. I didn't want them brought up on charges. I wanted them to wash the fences and houses they messed up in the middle of the blazing heat - with a toothbrush.

01-21-2011, 03:27 PM	#4
Irish mist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 682 Thanks: 122 Thanked 85 Times in 49 Posts	What gets me is that this is the same area (near the hospital) where the last attacks happened. The shots most likely are coming from one of the several three-deckers there. The LPD might want to ask the neighbors which local nitwit has a BB gun.

01-22-2011, 04:25 PM	#8
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Should have put him in lock up for few nights......

01-22-2011, 05:56 PM	#9
Irish mist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 682 Thanks: 122 Thanked 85 Times in 49 Posts	Good job LPD I figured it was some kid shooting from a window in one of those apartment buildings. LPD should have asked the neighbors 2 years ago who had the BB gun.....the neighbors knew. Anyway.....happy they got him.

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01-22-2011, 09:05 PM	#11
Heaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 516 Thanks: 126 Thanked 94 Times in 66 Posts	"He investigated and found some witnesses who said the saw the barrel of the gun sticking out of a window," Hubbard said. This makes it sound like they waited until they were questioned instead of calling the station when they saw the damn thing. Hope that isn't the case

01-24-2011, 06:06 AM	#15
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Better make sure they cite those Girl Scouts for selling those cookies too!

01-24-2011, 09:21 AM	#19
songkrai Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 725 Thanks: 35 Thanked 145 Times in 98 Posts	The Men and Women in Blue worked like lightning on this one this time. But it took a letter to editor from a Moultonborough resident back in 2008 to get them to take this kind of assault/crime seriously this time. Interesting how this works.

01-24-2011, 09:38 AM	#20
songkrai Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 725 Thanks: 35 Thanked 145 Times in 98 Posts	My LPD story. Laconia. Was with an older gentlemen in Laconia driving/shopping. We stopped at a local gas/store on Union Ave. He went in for one package of cigarettes. The person behind counter asked for ID. OK. That's fine. Even though gentleman was in his 60's - there may be a company policy to ask ALL for ID. Fine. So gentleman shows his current NH drivers license. The clerk/cashier wanted to take it and write it down. WHAT? The older gentelman stated that he would hold onto the drivers license but that clerk could be able to read the date of birth and view picture. NO. Clerk state that he needed to take drivers license and write down or place information into "computer". NO WAY. We left and drive directly to the Laconia Police Department. Anyone ever been in there. Not user friendly. Nice lady behind the small bullit proof window stated that this has nothing to do with the police. I mentioned the crime of Identity Theft - by the way - Laconia did have a McD's employee stealing CC information. My friend then asked for a police officer to speak to. Some bookworm came out and pooh poohed the whole thing. No big deal. If clerk in store wants to write down all the information from a customers drivers license then that is fine. And a perception here: This Laconia officer seemed to exhibit the behavior or attittude that my friend was bothering him from real police work. Maybe this is a grand over reaction on my age 60's friend. But Identity Theft is big business in the good ole USA. In my opinion the LPD needs more than just a new building with a skateboard playground in back.

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01-24-2011, 10:48 AM	#24
Chickie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 38 Posts	Singapore Justice? Remember the teenage boy, Michael Fay, who was caned for vandalizing cars in Singapore a few years ago? Caning is the routine punishment meted out for such things in that country. If you can receive that kind of punishment for scratching cars, just think what you would get for shooting at them? Wonder if it is time to think about stricter punishment for young hoodlums? Something they would long remember and make them think twice before doing it again.