Garmin GLO - External GPS antennae for IPAD with GloNASS

Piston · 03-17-2013, 06:31 AM

I recently received a new iPad as a gift from my company. I'm thinking of adding the Bizer app and using my iPad as a chartplotter. I know this has been done before, but I'm curious if anyone has used it with the Garmin GLO gps antennae?

It's an external (wireless) antennae that connects to the iPad via Bluetooth. It has a rechargeable battery that lasts up to 12 hrs, or you can plug it in using a cigarette lighter adapter (or hardwire).

I have read reviews online about other Bluetooth enabled GPS antennae's for the iPad, but haven't seen too many people actually using the GLO. Does anyone have any experience using one?

The two main reasons I'm extremely interested in this model, is for one, it is able to use GLONASS satallites for better accuracy and reliability in addition to regular U.S. satallites. The second thing I like about it is that it's made by Garmin, and I've always had good luck using their GPS' and equipment.

Thanks for any info!

Link to Garmin site if interested:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=158&pID=109827

camp guy · 03-17-2013, 12:00 PM

I am sorry, really I am, but I can't help myself: What did "Piston" just say?

NoBozo · 03-17-2013, 02:53 PM

I'd be afraid of having the iPad slide off my lap and land on the floor. One hand for the steering wheel, one for the throttle, and one for the iPad.

Boats aren't as stable a platform as a car.

NB

Bear Island South · 03-17-2013, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

I'd be afraid of having the iPad slide off my lap and land on the floor. One hand for the steering wheel, one for the throttle, and one for the iPad.

Boats aren't as stable a platform as a car.

NB

They make mounts to go hands free, I have seen one you can place in a cup holder and another that suctions to glass.

diz · 03-17-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

I'd be afraid of having the iPad slide off my lap and land on the floor. One hand for the steering wheel, one for the throttle, and one for the iPad.

Boats aren't as stable a platform as a car.

NB

These guys make great mounts. They're modular so you can pick the mount and then a bracket or suction cup for attaching it.

Ram Mounts

NoBozo · 03-17-2013, 06:08 PM

OK: Not being an iPad owner I wasn't aware of the mounting options.

NB

Piston · 03-18-2013, 03:41 AM

Yes, as mentioned, there are many mounts available for iPads, even marine specific ones with fully waterproof cases. There are apps for iPads and iPhones that are meant specifically for navigation. Companies like Navionics, Garmin, and others make mapping/charting software that cover the globe, and along with the very good processing of an iPad, are very good, reliable chartplotters. Ipads are used in many boats and megayachts, even some ships have them as backup and redundancy.

For those that aren't aware, even Bizer has a dedicated app for navigation using an iPad.

The 3G/4G models have integrated GPS however, being somewhat marine savy and experienced myself, I am naturally apprehensive about trusting my position to the inferior GPS receiver built in to the iPad. This is why I'm interested in an external GPS antennae, and especially interested in one with GLONASS capabilities.

I believe this may be a relatively new antennae so maybe not too many people own them yet, I suppose I might be one of the first.

I'm hoping one of you have tried this out and have an opinion on it.

Basically, GLONASS just refers to the Russian GPS satellite's that we now have access to, so in essence, it gives us the ability to use an additional 24 satellites for GPS navigation. It's more reliable and more accurate.

gslpro · 03-18-2013, 08:51 AM

Hey Piston. I am guessing that you should have some damn good accuracy of capture on that receiver. My old garmin Zumo could figure out which way I was facing while sitting down inside of my house. If I rotated in my chair, it did as well. That was high-sensitivity 5+ yrs. ago. What they have now should give even more of an accurate fix. I was thinking about running an external ant. for my new ipad as well, but I have a dedicated gps with bizer chart on board already, I decided to use this more as a moving handheld bizer chart, and loaded it with the brad goodman Lake Winni application. Until I get on the water, I can't say how much I would trust the receiver in the ipad, but I am sure it will be fairly accurate. That being said, any chartplotter in my mind should still be only a reference of where your eyes should see something, though playing the devil's advocate on the use of gps, it is also something to go by when that buoy simply isn't there, or where it is supposed to be.

DanP · 03-18-2013, 01:13 PM

I've used the Lake Winni app (which has the Bizer chart) for two seasons with my iPad 2 that has built in GPS (it is the 3G version) and its great. Search for some of my previous posts.

Unless you have the wifi only iPad, I think the external GLO is overkill. I've never had an issue with satellite reception and from what I can tell I get great accuracy. My old Garmin handheld would show the satellites connected and the accuracy but the charting was inferior.

If you have an iPhone you have a built-in backup as well. You buy the app once and use it on all your devices.

My iPad has a leather like case which I just prop up on my dashboard and it works OK. I really want to get this mount...

http://www.seasucker.com/shop/seasuc...bracket-mount/

Billy Bob · 03-18-2013, 02:34 PM

I have been using the i pad on my fishing boat here in Florida for some time.
It has a selection of several charts you can use all very good .
The boat is an open fisherman ( wet ) but with a plastic case no problem.

The big issue is the i pad isen't great out in the sun . at times it's just imposable to see , add a pair of polaroid glasses and it becomes a blank screen . As a result it's hard to use when the boat is moving .
If you are going to use it under a sun shade etc thats one thing but out in the sun you need a different option.

Piston · 03-19-2013, 01:33 AM

Well, regarding the external antennae vs. internal, I'm actually not sure if I'll have the wifi only version or not. I haven't actually received the iPad yet but all I need to do is pick it up.

That's a really good point about the sun and the screen being unreadable in direct light. I will mostly have my bimini up for shade for the baby, although I DO prefer it down

I figure it's worth a shot for the very minimal investment it would be. I think the app is only $35 or $40 and then the $100 for the antennae.

That seasucker mount looks really nice, sounds impressive, I'll look into that more as well.

As a side note, I also have a Garmin Oregon handheld with the Bizer charts loaded onto it, which is what I've always used in the past, and although it does work really well, it is a very small screen and better for hiking/motorcycling than it is for boating. I certainly don't NEED the iPad, more of a cheap toy than anything

Gslpro,
It's a good point about not completely relying on the GPS. I would never 100% trust any single system for nav.

03-17-2013, 06:31 AM	#1
Piston Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Upton, MA/Alton Bay Posts: 81 Thanks: 20 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Garmin GLO - External GPS antennae for IPAD with GloNASS I recently received a new iPad as a gift from my company. I'm thinking of adding the Bizer app and using my iPad as a chartplotter. I know this has been done before, but I'm curious if anyone has used it with the Garmin GLO gps antennae? It's an external (wireless) antennae that connects to the iPad via Bluetooth. It has a rechargeable battery that lasts up to 12 hrs, or you can plug it in using a cigarette lighter adapter (or hardwire). I have read reviews online about other Bluetooth enabled GPS antennae's for the iPad, but haven't seen too many people actually using the GLO. Does anyone have any experience using one? The two main reasons I'm extremely interested in this model, is for one, it is able to use GLONASS satallites for better accuracy and reliability in addition to regular U.S. satallites. The second thing I like about it is that it's made by Garmin, and I've always had good luck using their GPS' and equipment. Thanks for any info! Link to Garmin site if interested: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=158&pID=109827

03-17-2013, 12:00 PM	#2
camp guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: formerly Winter Harbor, still Wolfeboro Posts: 1,135 Thanks: 284 Thanked 480 Times in 271 Posts	Garmin GLO - External GPA ... I am sorry, really I am, but I can't help myself: What did "Piston" just say?

03-17-2013, 02:53 PM	#3
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Just A Thought I'd be afraid of having the iPad slide off my lap and land on the floor. One hand for the steering wheel, one for the throttle, and one for the iPad. Boats aren't as stable a platform as a car. NB

03-18-2013, 08:51 AM	#8
gslpro Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Holden, MA Posts: 80 Thanks: 14 Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts	Garmin quality Hey Piston. I am guessing that you should have some damn good accuracy of capture on that receiver. My old garmin Zumo could figure out which way I was facing while sitting down inside of my house. If I rotated in my chair, it did as well. That was high-sensitivity 5+ yrs. ago. What they have now should give even more of an accurate fix. I was thinking about running an external ant. for my new ipad as well, but I have a dedicated gps with bizer chart on board already, I decided to use this more as a moving handheld bizer chart, and loaded it with the brad goodman Lake Winni application. Until I get on the water, I can't say how much I would trust the receiver in the ipad, but I am sure it will be fairly accurate. That being said, any chartplotter in my mind should still be only a reference of where your eyes should see something, though playing the devil's advocate on the use of gps, it is also something to go by when that buoy simply isn't there, or where it is supposed to be. __________________ Gary and Diane 290 Fiesta Vee "Nauti Bonnie"

03-18-2013, 01:13 PM	#9
DanP Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Lake Winni App is a No Brainer I've used the Lake Winni app (which has the Bizer chart) for two seasons with my iPad 2 that has built in GPS (it is the 3G version) and its great. Search for some of my previous posts. Unless you have the wifi only iPad, I think the external GLO is overkill. I've never had an issue with satellite reception and from what I can tell I get great accuracy. My old Garmin handheld would show the satellites connected and the accuracy but the charting was inferior. If you have an iPhone you have a built-in backup as well. You buy the app once and use it on all your devices. My iPad has a leather like case which I just prop up on my dashboard and it works OK. I really want to get this mount... http://www.seasucker.com/shop/seasuc...bracket-mount/

03-17-2013, 06:08 PM	#6
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	OK: Not being an iPad owner I wasn't aware of the mounting options. NB

03-18-2013, 03:41 AM	#7
Piston Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Upton, MA/Alton Bay Posts: 81 Thanks: 20 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Yes, as mentioned, there are many mounts available for iPads, even marine specific ones with fully waterproof cases. There are apps for iPads and iPhones that are meant specifically for navigation. Companies like Navionics, Garmin, and others make mapping/charting software that cover the globe, and along with the very good processing of an iPad, are very good, reliable chartplotters. Ipads are used in many boats and megayachts, even some ships have them as backup and redundancy. For those that aren't aware, even Bizer has a dedicated app for navigation using an iPad. The 3G/4G models have integrated GPS however, being somewhat marine savy and experienced myself, I am naturally apprehensive about trusting my position to the inferior GPS receiver built in to the iPad. This is why I'm interested in an external GPS antennae, and especially interested in one with GLONASS capabilities. I believe this may be a relatively new antennae so maybe not too many people own them yet, I suppose I might be one of the first. I'm hoping one of you have tried this out and have an opinion on it. Basically, GLONASS just refers to the Russian GPS satellite's that we now have access to, so in essence, it gives us the ability to use an additional 24 satellites for GPS navigation. It's more reliable and more accurate.

03-18-2013, 02:34 PM	#10
Billy Bob Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tiera Verdi Fl & Moultonborough Posts: 295 Thanks: 115 Thanked 154 Times in 92 Posts	i pad I have been using the i pad on my fishing boat here in Florida for some time. It has a selection of several charts you can use all very good . The boat is an open fisherman ( wet ) but with a plastic case no problem. The big issue is the i pad isen't great out in the sun . at times it's just imposable to see , add a pair of polaroid glasses and it becomes a blank screen . As a result it's hard to use when the boat is moving . If you are going to use it under a sun shade etc thats one thing but out in the sun you need a different option.

03-19-2013, 01:33 AM	#11
Piston Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Upton, MA/Alton Bay Posts: 81 Thanks: 20 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Well, regarding the external antennae vs. internal, I'm actually not sure if I'll have the wifi only version or not. I haven't actually received the iPad yet but all I need to do is pick it up. That's a really good point about the sun and the screen being unreadable in direct light. I will mostly have my bimini up for shade for the baby, although I DO prefer it down I figure it's worth a shot for the very minimal investment it would be. I think the app is only $35 or $40 and then the $100 for the antennae. That seasucker mount looks really nice, sounds impressive, I'll look into that more as well. As a side note, I also have a Garmin Oregon handheld with the Bizer charts loaded onto it, which is what I've always used in the past, and although it does work really well, it is a very small screen and better for hiking/motorcycling than it is for boating. I certainly don't NEED the iPad, more of a cheap toy than anything Gslpro, It's a good point about not completely relying on the GPS. I would never 100% trust any single system for nav.