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Old 01-05-2015, 07:21 PM   #1
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Default Official 2015 Ice-In Thread

This is the Official 2015 Ice-in Thread. Please post your
comments about this year's Ice-in here.

There is ice in Moultonborough Bay and in some of the coves.

It is typically 33-35 degrees at the Weirs when the broads skims over. The Lake temp as of this morning, reported by the Winnipesaukee Dataphone is 35 degrees. (1-5-2015) The forecast this week is for very cold temperatures. There will be little wind Wednesday January 7th. We can hope for the lake to skim over.

The Ice-in page went live a few minutes ago at www.rattlesnakecam.com/icein.htm. If you have a webcam or know of one, please post the information in this thread and I will add it to the page. If you have a webcam that I have in the defunct section of the ice in page, please post here if it will be coming back at some point.

For those of us who are addicted to watching the lake freeze, enjoy. If you are new to the lake, come back often and watch the progress of Ice-in!

Please visit this thread for the latest news and the Ice-in page for current images of the freezing progress. (Please click on the ads at webcam sites and support the sponsors. This provides revenue to keep the cams alive)

As always Please post your pics of the freezing lake here.

See you on the ice!
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PS: My site was hacked some time ago and I am in the process of repairing the broken links. Thanks for your patience.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:33 AM   #2
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I look forward to your "Ice In" page post every year, thanks for the winter enjoyment!
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is it ?? I want to get out on a liquid big lake
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I'm seeing some new ice on the webcams today.
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Default In front of Black Cat just froze over

As I sit here in my office on Tuesday afternoon at about 3:00 I just saw the entire span of my view on the SW side of Black Cat turn from open water to ice in the matter of about 30 minutes. After ten years at this location that was a first for me.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:22 PM   #8
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Default One ice house on Alton Bay...

I believe that it is a bob house owned by the man who is the airport manager for the ice runway. It will serve mainly as a hospitality hut for the runway.

Not sure how thick the ice is, but he is very careful about getting out on the ice.
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Top pic is at 2:30pm today, on the dropcam I could see the water moving a bit. At 4:00pm I looked at snake eyes and was surprised to see ice, I went back and looked and the broads had a thin sheet of ice (bottom pic). Thought I'd share.
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Today was a tipping point day I think...lots more ice everywhere! However, we are one day closer to "Ice Out".
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Since 2:05 pm when I last posted, all those places that were water are now ice. Pretty cool. Never seen it lock up in real time...in a manner of speaking.
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Here is a shot from Snake Eyes after 3 today. If you go to rattlesnakecam.com and click on Time Lapse Videos you can see the ice form. Really cool... so to speak!

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Hopefully the forecasted winds won't undo what's already in place.....
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locked up from end long island over to jolly Island now. won't see "wahta" now util spring! all we need now is about a foot of snow for sledding
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Default Watch out for air gaps

Be extra careful with ice along the shore. The lake is about a foot high and the dam is running fast to lower it. On Jan 6, while checking ice thickness, I found areas along the shore with just one inch of weak ice over top an air gap. Once out about a foot, the ice was at least 3" and safe for walking.
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In the past I took images saved every 30 seconds from the BearCam to create ice and and ice out videos. You can watch the process of several days in just 1 minute.

Ice In


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ippl-XSUseU

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Checked my camera this morning and it looks like Winnisquam is mostly skimmed over in front of our place on the west side just south of Pot Island. 2 days ago there were wave crashing on the shore.
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The last open areas on Merrymeeting closed up last night, and I heard several expansion booms during the night. Ice-In is here and the ice is expanding rapidly.
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Here is a shot from Snake Eyes after 3 today. If you go to rattlesnakecam.com and click on Time Lapse Videos you can see the ice form. Really cool... so to speak!

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your :really cool, so to speak" comment was really cold......lol!
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LOVE these cameras! They are such fun to watch. Good thing your dock wasn't in the water, BI, when that ice came back.
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The broads ice in front of Snake Eyes has just blown away.
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Is there a certain thickness the ice is, as an average when ice-out happens, as we watched in Bear Islander's video?
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:12 PM   #24
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of Moultonborough Bay, this morning (1/7/15). It's all iced in.
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Looks like Broads open again on Snake Eyes webcam
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Default More open today

The upper photo was taken yesterday at about 11 am from Belknap Point. The lower photo is about 8 am today, temp minus 10 deg.

Yesterday there was ice from Ames Farm out to Diamond, all open today. The wind really did a job on any thin ice.
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Today's satellite view. Excellent progress. As usual Sebago is the last to freeze if at all.


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Default Interesting tidbits.

Sebago Lake does freeze over, usually after Winni and Sebago usually ice out before Winni. Not sure why.

Lake Tahoe never freeze. Some facts to ponder:

The average temperatures for the winter months at Lake Tahoe are
December: 14 degrees Fahrenheit,
January: 15 degrees,
and February 17 degrees.
These temperatures are not cold enough to freeze such a large expanse of water.

Some statistics about the Lake may help you to see why it doesn't freeze.
Though sitting at an elevation of over 6,200ft:
Lake Tahoe is 22miles wide by 12miles long
1645ft maximum with an average depth of 989ft
The lake's surface area is 122,200 acres
With a volume of 39 trillion gallons
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The sun shines at Lake Tahoe during 75% of the year, or 274 days.
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Sebago Lake does freeze over, usually after Winni and Sebago usually ice out before Winni. Not sure why.

Lake Tahoe never freeze. Some facts to ponder:

The average temperatures for the winter months at Lake Tahoe are
December: 14 degrees Fahrenheit,
January: 15 degrees,
and February 17 degrees.
These temperatures are not cold enough to freeze such a large expanse of water.

Some statistics about the Lake may help you to see why it doesn't freeze.
Though sitting at an elevation of over 6,200ft:
Lake Tahoe is 22miles wide by 12miles long
1645ft maximum with an average depth of 989ft
The lake's surface area is 122,200 acres
With a volume of 39 trillion gallons
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The sun shines at Lake Tahoe during 75% of the year, or 274 days.
Broadhopper,

I've been on Sebago for over 40 years. It freezes completely only about 40 percent of the time.

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It has to be the depth of Sebago. Much deeper than Winni.
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Certainly that must be a factor. Sebago is Ave depth 107' deepest 316' Winni ave depth is 43' deepest 212'
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Yes, depth is a factor but the biggest factor is that Big Bay as it is called, is far larger an expanse of water than the broads is and is "almost" never calm. Wind of some kind is always a factor. Even on the coldest calmest night below zero it will not freeze and if it does, the wind comes up and blows it off to shore the next day. I have many pictures of my kids standing on ten to twelve foot high piles of ice on our shore front.
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I'm expecting ice in to be declared today...
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... Lake Tahoe never freeze. Some facts to ponder:

The average temperatures for the winter months at Lake Tahoe are
December: 14 degrees Fahrenheit,
January: 15 degrees,
and February 17 degrees.
These temperatures are not cold enough to freeze such a large expanse of water.
I believe you are quoting the nighttime lows. The winter highs for Tahoe are in the forties, making the overall temperature right about freezing. The average Winnipesaukee air temperature in the winter is in the low twenties, some eight-to-ten degrees cooler.

Water volume is not all that important as evidenced by Lake Baikal (150 times the water of Tahoe and frozen 4 months a year). Once the water temperature is lowered to 39F (4C), only the first foot of water needs to be cooled further. Even in the dead of winter, the lake's bottom is at 39F (4C).

However, I, too, have no idea why Sebago doesn't freeze each year.
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........However, I, too, have no idea why Sebago doesn't freeze each year.
I do.......wind, wind, wind.
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I wonder whether the predicted heavy rain and warmer temps will cause problems with the newly formed ice?
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Looking good in Alton Bay and 19 Mile Bay today 1/17/15
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Question What is the definition of Ice In?

Ok, this may sound dumb, but what does ICE IN mean exactly?

I know what Ice Out means - and it doesn't mean there's no ice.

What is the definition of Ice In?

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I am not aware of an official definition. Some years, the lake never completely freezes, yet we have an official ice out for that year. So, I believe it could be possible to have ice out without and ice in.

My only concern is once ice in is declared, some people will think the ice is completely safe everywhere on the lake. Be aware, the ice has varying thicknesses and is not safe everywhere!

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We walked from Ellacoya up Scenic Rd this morning; the ice singing was loud and continuous. While the direction was well distributed the main chorus seemed to from between Welch and Diamond out toward the Broads.
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I’ve got another stupid question. With all the bob houses in Alton bay, is there fish that deep in the bay, or is it easy excess to the lake and a good place to hang out?
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Ok, this may sound dumb, but what does ICE IN mean exactly?

I know what Ice Out means - and it doesn't mean there's no ice.

What is the definition of Ice In?

Sorry for the dumb-ish question
I do not think there is a definition. It seems that it gets called when there is no open water as seen from the air. It does not mean it is safe. I for one would not ever call ice in. Some idiot would sue if they fell through the ice.

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Ice out is "official" when the Mt. Washington can make it to all ports, right?
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There is a stream of open water in front of my dock. You can see it on Snake Eyes. Is there any other open water?

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Ice out is "official" when the Mt. Washington can make it to all ports, right?
My understanding is that this is the official definition for ice in and ice out is the mount route open or not.
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My understanding is that this is the official definition for ice in and ice out is the mount route open or not.
If this was the case, then "ice-in" should have been declared weeks ago.

I still do not think we have an official definition, although over the last ten years or so, it has been called when ice covers the entire lake.

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I don't think we have an official definition either. There was never before such a thing. But then, the definition of ice out was not always when the Mount could make it's way to all it's ports either. Emerson Aviation didn't always fly around and declare ice out.
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Imo,
Ice in = zero open water, the surface of the lake is shore to shore frozen.

Ice out = zero remaining ice, dive in.
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Old 01-19-2015, 03:43 PM   #52
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According to Wikipedia, there appears to be misconceptions about even Ice-Out. So I would surmise that there is nothing definitive for Ice-In either!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Winnipesaukee_Ice-Out
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IG, I don't see that same stream of water on the other end. But I can't imagine today is a good ice growing day.
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Oh, I do miss that live cam with the view of the gazebo that was up a couple of years ago. New view not too exciting. Any chance of getting that one back? I'm fascinated watching the ice.
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Oh, I do miss that live cam with the view of the gazebo that was up a couple of years ago. New view not too exciting. Any chance of getting that one back? I'm fascinated watching the ice.
That was a camera provided by the Spencer Hughes real estate office. There is now an insurance agency in that location. Maybe Irwin Marine - Alton Bay will put one in at their marina at the former Gillan Marine location.
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I posed the same question to Irwin after seeing pictures taken from their location at the bay. They said a Webcam was not out of the question. Fingers crossed.

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The family at Sandy Point has also shown some interest in installing a webcam, but I don't know if this will be the year. Also don't know if it would face up the lake toward Echo Point or down the bay toward the bandstand.
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