Help New Restaurant/Cafe Open

[SkipEarth]

here is link below I am moving from NY and going to open a great Restaurant/Cafe

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...on/cafe-uliano

[RLW]

SkipEarth, glad you have joined us. Have fun and enjoy the Winni Forum while making many new friends and the best of luck with your new endeavors.

[Pineedles]

Interesting concept, having people fund your project. I would suggest folks take a look at some of the projects on the kickstarter website.

[Rolie]

Originally Posted by SkipEarth

here is link below I am moving from NY and going to open a great Restaurant/Cafe

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...on/cafe-uliano

Is this legit? Anybody care to make a donation toward my retirement?

[GM doc]

Originally Posted by SkipEarth

here is link below I am moving from NY and going to open a great Restaurant/Cafe

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...on/cafe-uliano

Sounds a little "sketchy" to me.
But, I wish you well with your adverture.

[SkipEarth]

Not Sketchy By donating you get some cool rewards Kickstarter is a great Funding Website works wonders its how I funded my Photography book and it also made me a producer on a movie lol. Anyway if anyone caresto help with my project I would greatly appreciate it and youll get a cool reward!

Please share link with others in the area.

[Jonas Pilot]

So for a $5,000.00 investment I get my name on a wall, my name on a menu, a free soda, a free t-shirt, my name on a lunch special, a web link, 52 lunches for two, and a used table. All this for only a $5,000.00 donation. That sounds like a fair deal, for the business.

[TiltonBB]

Let me get this straight:

You want people to send money to someone they don't know, to invest in a business that isn't operating, at a location that has not been determined. The business may or may not ever get off the ground and will be run by someone who might move into New Hampshire some day, but has not had enough success in life to come up with his own funds to start a business.

Gee, sounds like a great investment, what could possibly go wrong?

Suggestion: It sounds like funds might be a little tight. Start another website for people to donate funds for your New Hampshire apartment and a moving van to help with your anticipated move.

[Jmo77011]

I have heard of this website before, and it actually is legit. I would wonder how successful a restaurant like the one you are planning would actually be. Most places have a healthy alternatives available already, and if you want fat free milk for your coffee, you can just ask for that (usually). Good luck.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Jonas Pilot

So for a $5,000.00 investment I get my name on a wall, my name on a menu, a free soda, a free t-shirt, my name on a lunch special, a web link, 52 lunches for two, and a used table. All this for only a $5,000.00 donation. That sounds like a fair deal, for the business.

I take it you (and others) are somewhat unfamiliar with Kickstarter?

Kickstarter is a way of crowd-sourcing startup investments. Individuals can post business plans, set investment levels, and set rewards. Because Kickstarter can't deal with ensuring everyone is an accredited investor, you are really "pre buying" and not technically "investing".

The person running the campaign chooses what you are buying for your "investment". Sometimes they want to build a $50 widget, and a $250 investment gets you 5 widgets, or 5 widgets and a thank you note, or generally some other scenario of you getting exactly what you purchased.

In other campaigns, the person is looking for pseudo-donations, the value of the thing you get is going to be less than the value of the goods/services you receive, but that is only if you are discounting the philanthropic effect of your donation.

if the funding goals are not met, the person does not get the partial funds raised.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this method of raising funds. It is more beneficial to the entrepreneur than taking out a bank loan, and gives more people the ability to help participate in the stimulation of the economy, with financial risk managed to their tolerance level.

[Jonas Pilot]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this method of raising funds. It is more beneficial to the entrepreneur than taking out a bank loan, and gives more people the ability to help participate in the stimulation of the economy, with financial risk managed to their tolerance level.[/QUOTE]

Yea, OK.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

I take it you (and others) are somewhat unfamiliar with Kickstarter?

Kickstarter is a way of crowd-sourcing startup investments. Individuals can post business plans, set investment levels, and set rewards. Because Kickstarter can't deal with ensuring everyone is an accredited investor, you are really "pre buying" and not technically "investing".

The person running the campaign chooses what you are buying for your "investment". Sometimes they want to build a $50 widget, and a $250 investment gets you 5 widgets, or 5 widgets and a thank you note, or generally some other scenario of you getting exactly what you purchased.

In other campaigns, the person is looking for pseudo-donations, the value of the thing you get is going to be less than the value of the goods/services you receive, but that is only if you are discounting the philanthropic effect of your donation.

if the funding goals are not met, the person does not get the partial funds raised.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this method of raising funds. It is more beneficial to the entrepreneur than taking out a bank loan, and gives more people the ability to help participate in the stimulation of the economy, with financial risk managed to their tolerance level.

It may be a legitimate (kickstart) but Still sounds way too risky for me and in a world where you can't trust anyone these days........as the Sharks would say. "I'm Out". Everyone thought that Bernie Madoff was legit too

[Newbiesaukee]

This may be a good idea, certainly microloans for very specific purposes seem to be helpful in underdeveloped countries.

I do not see $20,000 as any reasonable amount for the setting up of a restaurant, so I guess I don't get it. Perhaps the entrepeneur has significant other funding sources.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by SkipEarth

here is link below I am moving from NY and going to open a great Restaurant/Cafe

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...on/cafe-uliano

How do you go from your first venture "Manscapes", A grooming boutique for men, to a health food deli? Winnipesaukee is a big lake but you might be "fishing" in the wrong spot




About this project
What is ManScapes?

ManScapes is a full service spa and all in one grooming center for the modern Man. ManScapes will have all of your grooming needs under one roof. Our Barbers/Stylists will cut and style your hair. Our Threader will give you groomed, masculine eyebrows. Our Manicurist will neatly manicure your nails. Our stand up tanning bed will give you a nice even bronze tan that will look natural. We also offer waxing for your back or chest.
Upon walking into ManScapes, you will instantly realize that you have never been in any place like it.
As soon as you walk through the door, the Classic/Modern lounge-like feel will take you in… A full size pool table, a leather couch and a 60” HDTV on the wall. Walk in a little further and 5 of the most comfortable barber chairs you have ever sat in are set in front of a huge spotless mirror surrounded by pillared cherry wood and an onyx granite countertop. Beyond that a private waxing room awaits for all you’re grooming needs. Besides these modern yet essential grooming services we offer a full line of products to help you maintain your look and keep you looking like the professional Man that you are. We will have a full line of hair and body products, shaving kits, Colognes and even Ties, Watches and Cuff Links.

What’s Unique About ManScapes?
If you are a private man, passerby’s can only see the lounge/waiting area from outside. The pool table, TV and couch.
We will be open seven days a week, starting early for those that require a touch up before work.
Just like a lounge or club we will have specials for our VIPS. Mondays will be reserved appointments for VIP members only. VIPS will also have the option to come in an hour before we open to the public everyday.
Besides all the state of the art amenities that ManScapes has to offer, enjoy a free bottle of water, coffee, cappuccino or espresso while you wait.
ManScapes is your one stop, all in one grooming and style shop. Forget your numerous trips to separate locations. Just one appointment or pit stop can take care of all your grooming and style needs.

What Will Your Funding be used for ?

As per Kickstarter policy , You can not Start a business as your project and so we wont.

We will use your funding for the initial start up costs we are going to encounter to start up ManScapes.

The initial Costs are ...

Equipment - Chairs and all the furniture needed to make ManScapes a success

Real Estate - For the leasing of a Place big enough for ManScapes

Advertising- For the Initial Marketing and Promotion of our Grand Opening.

Kickstarter further states "A project has a clear beginning and an end"

The start of our project will begin as soon as funding is secured and the end of the project is the day ManScapes opens.

Please Help us Make the Dream of MAnScapes a reality by Pledging anything even $1 because every but counts.

My Sincere Thank You to all who will be a part of this.

Peter G. Uliano

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[Rolie]

Originally Posted by Jonas Pilot

So for a $5,000.00 investment I get my name on a wall, my name on a menu, a free soda, a free t-shirt, my name on a lunch special, a web link, 52 lunches for two, and a used table. All this for only a $5,000.00 donation. That sounds like a fair deal, for the business.

But wait...that's not all.... If you act before midnight you will also get a personalized coffee mug...with your name inscribed with a permanent marker in the color of your choice, as long as it's black!

Maybe I just don't get it.

[MarkinNH]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

if the funding goals are not met, the person does not get the partial funds raised.

If the goal is not met and the person does not receive the funds raised through the donations, what happens to the funds that were raised ?
Do the people who made donations get the $$ back ?

[Pineedles]

Although I didn't spend a lot of time on the web-site, it does say that if the goal is not reached the donors get their money back. This concept is pretty unique and if you are interested, go to the site and read about it. It's easy to make jokes about it being a scam, but I don't see it as that. If you look at the site there are projects that return to the donor a 10th of what they contribute yet they are funded at 130%, 200%, and more. Why? People either are supporting the arts in their own way or they like the recognition.

There's a restaurant in NYC that if you dine with them about 1,000 times they'll paint a caricature of you on their wall. Some people are willing to do this. A bit crazy? Maybe. It does take all types to make the world go round.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by MarkinNH

If the goal is not met and the person does not receive the funds raised through the donations, what happens to the funds that were raised ?
Do the people who made donations get the $$ back ?

Yes.

So, you look at an idea and kick in $10 or $100 for someone that is trying to raise $5000. If you're the only believer, then it never gets funded and you're out nothing. If it does get funded, then you are clearly not the only one who sees merit in the idea.

[baygo]

Originally Posted by SkipEarth

here is link below I am moving from NY and going to open a great Restaurant/Cafe

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...on/cafe-uliano

I wish kickstarter.com had been around in the 80's when I was in pursuit of my first restaurant.

I'm not sure how far $20,000 goes in NY but it seems to me that it's a bit shy of an amount to work with in the Lakes Region. Then again what do I know

Best wishes SkipEarth, I look forward to trying cafe uliano.

[Mr. V]

Oh, please.

I've given money to a relative through kickstarter.com to help her pay to record an album, but giving money to a stranger?

For a vegan restaurant?

What is the difference between donating to you or handing a couple bucks to a scryfft freeway offramp beggar holding up a cardboard sign saying "Will Work For Food?"

[Espo]

What a funny post. You realize that EVERYONE on this site would rather eat off the dollar menu meal and be paid for it! You are barking up the wrong tree but I wish you luck. Unless the food and drinks are free nobody on the winni forum will be there anyway. Maybe jealousy? Good luck and message me privaely when you get things in order.

[MarkinNH]

Originally Posted by Espo

Unless the food and drinks are free nobody on the winni forum will be there anyway.

Your statement clearly insinuates that all the members on this forum are cheap bums. You may speak for yourself, but you sure as hell don't speak for me !!!
For a new member who only joined the forum this month and with only 13 posts, might I suggest that you get to know (so to speak) the members here better before you start judging us.
Personally, I find your statement quite insulting !!!!

[Winnisquamguy]

Originally Posted by Espo

What a funny post. You realize that EVERYONE on this site would rather eat off the dollar menu meal and be paid for it! You are barking up the wrong tree but I wish you luck. Unless the food and drinks are free nobody on the winni forum will be there anyway. Maybe jealousy? Good luck and message me privaely when you get things in order.

Well I notice the time of the post was 3:00 am did you have one to many cocktails at your Friday night dinner down at O Steaks?

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by MarkinNH

Your statement clearly insinuates that all the members on this forum are cheap bums. You may speak for yourself, but you sure as hell don't speak for me !!!
For a new member who only joined the forum this month and with only 13 posts, might I suggest that you get to know (so to speak) the members here better before you start judging us.
Personally, I find your statement quite insulting !!!!

I agree with your rejection of the conclusion that all members of the forum are cheap.

However, it should be noted that he joined a year ago in 2010, not 2011.

He is still wrong, no matter when he joined!

[MarkinNH]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I agree with your rejection of the conclusion that all members of the forum are cheap.

However, it should be noted that he joined a year ago in 2010, not 2011.

He is still wrong, no matter when he joined!

Yes, my error. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I read the 2010 and then spaced it. There should be an smiley icon for "embarrassed"
My apologies to Espo for that blatant error in my post.

[SAMIAM]

Ok,.....let's see......

1 Double garland convection oven $9,745.00
1 2 Door True reach in fridge........$5,800.00
1 Manitowoc ice machine $4,217.00
1 Beverage-air salad/prep unit $6,751

Oooops......went over budget a little.....another $150,000 or so and you should be good to go

[sa meredith]

OK, so I like to stir things up as much as anyone...however, I don't see the point here.
It seems as though this "Kickstart" web site is legit (not a scam), and the OP is interested in using it to start a business. Never mind the fact that maybe his expectations, buget, or businesss plan may need some fine tuning. Fair enough.
Why is OK for so many poeple to ridicule and belittle this guy? While others accuse him of a scam.
His post was very brief and sincere, I believe.
And ESPO...what the heck is that about? What a strange thing to write.

[Steveo]

As of 8am this morning the project (funding) was cancelled. Don't know what happened

[GTO]

Originally Posted by Steveo

As of 8am this morning the project (funding) was cancelled. Don't know what happened

If we all gave up on our dreams that quickly. Maybe he realized that nobody here was falling for it. Funny how after the initial post....he never posted again

[Pineedles]

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[SkipEarth]

It was not a scam and if my budget was shy it was because I do have some start-up money. I am serious about moving to NH and I love it there! mainly because I found the people so friendly. I do not know why everyone felt the need to ridicule me over this when I was being sincere and honest.

As for the first person who mentioned my first kickstarter campaign "Manscapes™" Kickstarter said that project was not in their guidelines and others here in NY use my account , I allow neighborhood People with no internet to use my account/computer. Manscapes™ which was recently trademarked by me is a a salon for men and a line of male products now which I own so I did keep my first dream and follow through with it.

Furthermore I was being polite and nice and asking for help and in turn offering rewards. I actually donated on kickstarter to a movie project and it was shown at sundance and my name appeared in the credits as a "Special Thanks" did I do it for that , No . I did it because I thought the project was a good idea and wanted to see/help this person make their goals a reality.

If I offended anyone , I am sorry. The truth is though , I am the one that deserves an apology.

I posted here because like I said I love NH! I am moving there soon and I will be up there toward the end of june finishing up a business deal I have going in Meredith and also house shopping.

I look forward to being neighbors with you all and hope that you will accept My family and I and not criticize us for anything we may be doing or planning to do. We are good , kind hearted people who would help you all if you needed it.

If you read this far Thank You and God Bless you.

Peter

Manscapes™

[Belmont Resident]

If I had an extra 5K I can think of a lot of things that it could do to benefit my business or family long before I give it to a complete stranger.
Heck I wouldn't even lend a friend that kind of money.
My .02 this has scam written all over it.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by SkipEarth

, I allow neighborhood People with no internet to use my account/computer.


Manscapes™

When You move to NH can I use your internet connection. I have this business I want to try out. I call elderly people and tell them I am from Nigeria. I tell them that they have been left millions of dollars by someone they have never heard of before and all they have to do is tell me their social security number and bank account number so that I can transfer the money into their account

[ChocolateGypsy]

Originally Posted by GTO

When You move to NH can I use your internet connection. I have this business I want to try out. I call elderly people and tell them I am from Nigeria. I tell them that they have been left millions of dollars by someone they have never heard of before and all they have to do is tell me their social security number and bank account number so that I can transfer the money into their account

lmao! Sorry... couldn't help myself but...

Yes, Kickstarter is legit but there are specific guidelines... one being that it must be a *creative* or *humanitarian* endeavor. It was established to help struggling artists bring their ideas to life (notice the number of film and art projects.) I visit regularly because I'm entertained by the variety of ideas and projects. But I have noticed that Kickstarter may not be too strict about projects adhering to the creative/humanitarian requirement when there is a lot of interest in it. For the most part, I don't see many thousand dollar donations but many $5 and $10 pledges of support. In this way, (although I hate to say it) it resembles panhandling.

Simply put, Kickstarter projects are like: "hey buddy... can you spare a couple of dollars? So we can buy supplies to paint a mural on the wall near this empty neighborhood lot and help make the place look nicer. In return, we'll paint your name on one of the bricks."

[Jonas Pilot]

We already have enough schemers in New Hampshire.

[jack1706]

It takes all kinds, I guess.....
Can't believe what I'm reading!!

Turn and run the other way people..

[Mr. V]

This thread epitomizes the length and breadth of the generation gap.

Young'uns would consider giving; not their folks and grandfolks, though.

Is what it is.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

This thread epitomizes the length and breadth of the generation gap.

Young'uns would consider giving; not their folks and grandfolks, though.

Is what it is.

But according to Pineneedles in a previous post, there were zero backers and zero Pledges. Does'nt look like young'uns or old'uns considered giving

[ChocolateGypsy]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

This thread epitomizes the length and breadth of the generation gap.

Young'uns would consider giving; not their folks and grandfolks, though.

Is what it is.

I'm a young'un???

Okeee!!

[Pineedles]

If people are really serious about getting funding outside of traditional means, i.e. banks, then there are places like www.lendingclub.com that they can go to for the funds they need.

[WakeboardMom]

Originally Posted by Pineedles

If people are really serious about getting funding outside of traditional means, i.e. banks, then there are places like www.lendingclub.com that they can go to for the funds they need.

Shark Tank! Now casting...entrepreneurs wanted!



http://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank

[jeffk]

I guess I'm surprised that soliciting funds is OK on the Forum.

We have no way to check the legitimacy of the project and it sounds like the kickstarter website doesn't either. On general principles this sounds like a bad idea unless you decide to fund someone that you know. This is like a guy knocking on your door and saying "Have I got a deal for you!".

No thanks. I don't give my hard earned money way.

[jack1706]

well said.....

not only are the people of New Hampshire " so friendly ", they are intelligent,

educated and make the best neighbors, but not gullible for sure!

[ripley]

Curious: Did this guy ever really move to the Meredith area ?

[Newbiesaukee]

to your screen name, I would venture...not.