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02-17-2007, 06:20 PM | #1 |
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Snowmobile Fire
This snowmobile suddenly caught fire around 5PM on 2/17/07 between the northwestern end of Rattlesnake Island and Smith Point. The operator was unhurt. She said the sled caught fire with no warning but she was able to get away from it safely.
I didn't have my camera with me, so this picture was taken with my cellphone.
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That's one way to keep warm, should cost too much to get it out of there, looks pretty light now. Glad no one was hurt. You should sell the picture to a newspaper.
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Wow, glad she wasn't burned!
Was the sled newer or older? It always pays to check them over real good before riding. I've seen mice build nests inside the mufflers and the back pressure over heats it and can start a fire. Also you need to check all of the fuel lines and connections. Sometimes people cover their sleds or store them inside a trailer or garage and when the snow flies, just uncover them jump on and ride.
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Great picture DRH. Glad no one was hurt. Now someone will find out all about snowmobile insurance.
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Glad she was not hurt. I wonder what caused it.... That is something that would happen to me. I had my boat catch on fire a bunch of years back.
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And you still let others use yours! Great picture unless its your sled ablaze.
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Who is required to clean up this mess? Hopefully, someone got the riders name and address.
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Does anyone know if there is a timetable for the remains to be off the ice or is it like when cars go through the ice and the clock starts when the vehicle is actually IN the water?
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Maybe the April 1st deadline for bob houses applies here too?
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Not much left
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A new dive site?
Someone should tie a buoy to it and then it could be found in the spring
It is probably pretty well imbeded in the ice from the heat of the fire and will be difficult to get out... |
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It looks like it could be a pretty dangerous obstacle for anybody out riding their machine at night. I'd hate to be zipping along in an area I know is normally open ice and come across that after its too late. Somebody should be responsible for getting it out of there before another accident happens.
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I spoke to a Fish & Game officer in Alton Bay the day after the fire about removal of the snowmobile remains. He said there was so little left of the sled, basically just metal, that F&G would let it stay where it is and it will sink to the bottom when the ice melts. I was surprised by this answer, but that's what the officer told me.
No one I saw at the scene got the operator's name or other information. She was picked up by a boyfriend/husband on a second sled and they left while the first sled was still ablaze.
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I'm surprised too. Two years ago, two people sitting stationary out there on their snowmobile were run over and injured by another snowmobile!
Something less visible begs another crash—especially after dark.
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It does not really suprise me that is what they plan to do. There is very little damage that will come of it sinking best I can tell...... Something fun for a scuba diver to come across some day
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As soon as we get some more snow, the burned-out snowmobile shell will become almost invisible.
The remains are located at the following GPS coordinates: N 43 degrees, 34.214 minutes W 71 degrees, 18.529 minutes This location is approximately 1/4 mile south of the northwestern end of Rattlesnake Island.
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02-22-2007, 12:16 PM | #18 |
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I can't believe someone would just leave that there. Of course there is no way to trace its ownership if its all burnt up. I am tempted to go out myself and drag it off. Shouldn't someone have jurisdiction to remove it as a hazard to public safety and potentially a pollutant?
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A bright red bobhouse on the lake needs reflective tape on all sides to be seen at night, but a burnt out sled is OK?
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I heard the snowmobile had been removed... not sure...
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Hi all,
There is all kinds of stuff out on the lake to be wary of. When we were out riding prior to the weekend of the fishing derby, there was a trailer left in the middle of nowhere. Bottom line is that you have be very cautious out on the ice. My guess is that the primary contamination concern with this snowmobile would have been the fluids (transmission, oil, gas). But they likely all burned off in the fire. If this was removed, then the issues are basically solved. Jetskier |
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Sled Removal?
I pretty sure the owner is responsible or the state will remove it at the owner's expense! I new of someone killed on a snow mobile a couple of years ago in Moultonboro and that is what was communicated to the family...
I think the same is for any craft or obstacle that presents a hazard (both environmental or navigational)? Tank Dunstable, MA ps. I'm waiting for Sawyer's to open...has anyone heard if they're opening in Spring of 2007? |
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It is now reported that the burned out sled has been removed from the ice.
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How does this happen?
How does a snowmobile burn up like this one? Mice were mentioned as a possible cause but what else?
If I understand this situation, the remains will be allowed to sink and stay in the lake. Where can I find a list of what is and is not acceptable to dispose of in the lake? I for one would like to see the burned out sled removed from the area. On the other hand, it could join the abandoned laboratory down there. |
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Mice can certainly cause a sled to burn up. They are known for nesting in exhausts, under cowls and in airboxes and can thoroughly trash a sled. A few years ago we had some nest in and around the exhaust of our basically brand new club groomer. One of the members took it out of the garage and ran it around his house early in the season without checking it over, after about one pass it caught on fire (nesting material ignited). Luckily he was able to get it out immediately and there was hardly any damage |
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Cause of sled fire
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This fire is obviously a result of speed. The snowmobile was going so fast that friction generated enough heat to ignite a little gas spilled while fueling. This would not have happened if they had been going slower. At safe reasonable speeds the coefficient of friction over the ice is very small and there is no problem. Go very fast and it heats up. I get scared when I'm on the ice walking on a plowed path listening to the engine noises. All of a sudden I hear the loud veroom of snowmobiles getting louder and approaching fast. Can they see me over the plow berm? Will they turn in time to avoid hitting me or my party? They can't hear me over the noise of their excessively loud toys. They are a threat to us and our families and there ought to be a law. . |
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It's sarcasm. Reread his post but swap powerboat for snowmobile and kayaking for snow walking.
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Yeah, I thought it was sarcasm too. You go Mark.
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Come on you guys.I could see his tongue in his cheek from here.
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Nooo, really ?
So I wonder how "mark" feels about the Winter Derby and all them poor blind fish ?
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Mark is a tough call.....either pulling our leg or one of those radical enviromentalist moonbats......I'm guessing moonbat.
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Actually 2 sleds too close together
I believe it was caused by both the friction on the ice as well as two sleds being within 150' of the shoreline and each other. The turbulence created by the sleds as well as the ice wake pounding the shore caused heat to build up in the engine compartment and ignite the peppermint schnapps hidden there.
Once again speed, alcohol, loud machines and being too close to the shore causes issues on the lake. Did I forget to mention they were under 16 and lived in McMansion and smoked |
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Another theory ?
You know this has got me to thinking about things. Let's examine some facts. DRH got a picture of the sled on fire. DRH also got inside pics of the Pavillion fire. I've heard that Alton, where DRH lives, has had some suspicious fires. Now, using defective ... err ... deductive logik, I might begin to wonder what the commonality is in all these events. Then it hit me like a flying bat between the eyes. Quilt smuggling ! Yes, you heard, quilt smugglers right here in Alton. What famous quilt went to Rattlesnake I ? Where was that snomobile fire ... just off R.I. I do believe. Has anyone seen that quilt since said fire ? I think not. Quilts make you warm .... like a fire ! It's my belief that persons unnamed (well, I'm sure they have names, it's more like I don't know them) have been moving smuggled quilts to and fro in the greater Alton metropolis. Smugglers hide things in small confined places so they won't be found. These quilts, when stored in a small confined space and too close to a heat source (like under the hood of a snomobile !!), retain so much heat that they burst into flames. The smugglers have to keep moving their base of operations around due to the fires. All I have to do is figure out how it is that DRH and quilting are correlated ... there's a missing piece there I haven't quite got my finger on ... then I'll have the whole story ! DRH and quilts, DRH and quilts, I tell ya there's got to be a connection !
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ah a good laugh I need that
Thanks to all you wonderful story tellers I know have a smile on my face.....
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Could this be coincidence?
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You have made some logical links between DRH and quilts. The very same day Mee-n-Mac posts about DRH and quilts the Skipper of the Sea Que posts a picture of DRH taking a picture of a quilt. Coincidence or a slip by a poster using 2 names? Of all the days that a forum fest picture could have been posted it appears before you post your plausible explanation of the fire. Was that a slip up on your part? Is Mee-n-Mac the same poster as Skipper of the Sea Que using a dual identity? I am still a relative newbie here but it sure makes me think. Maybe DRH has a thing for quilts. Maybe his baby gankie (blanket) was a quilt and he has a fetish for them? Am I on track here? |
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You know where DRH gets these quilts you accuse him of running. He's just trying to make room in the house for even more quilts! I'm hard at work on a very special quilt for Forum Fest 4. And for the record, in the picture posted by the Skipper of the Sea-Que, that is not DRH taking the picture. He was wearing a dark red shirt and jeans that day. I know the identity of the photographer but wouldn't want to blow his cover. The White House got into enough trouble over doing that!
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However, concerning his theory about the recent Alton quilt fires, what he apparently hasn't yet thought about is that the M-n-M lakeside cottage is also located in Alton. And he apparently hasn't yet thought about the fact that his better half "Mee" also owns a certain special quilt. And if he's right about the quilt smuggling activities, hmmm ... maybe there's another fire brewing somewhere! Quick, M-n-M ... where's Mee's quilt??!!!
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Well that's some pretty good reasoning there, no doubt about it. However the man with the fancy camera is, in fact, a detective not DRH. He's taking the photo of the quilt "just in case". Now I think this quilt ended up in the possesion of 'rrr' which I think is short for 'brrr' which I'm pretty sure means "I'm cold, please hand me the quilt". So I think 'rrr' is off the hook as far as the whole smuggling ring goes but the question is ... how did this quilt come to be at the Forum Fest ? I saw it, and believe you me, I know I couldn't afford to buy it. And yet there it was, given away by "someone". Either they're very generous or they had an inside line. Hmmmm .... In a completely unrelated story I hear that another itsy bitsy, tiny weeny cabin went up in flames in Alton this coming Sunday. Depite allegations of hidden quilts, it was ... err ...will be ... determined to be the result of shoddy workmanship by the occupant. Apparently the fumes from some PVC cement were ... err ... will be too much and the moron passed out leaving the stove on unattended. A 16' by 22' by incredibly tall McMansion is rumoured to be it's replacement.
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Comfy chair!
Mac, perhaps its time to put DRH in the Comfy Chair for questioning.."no one expects the Spanish Inguisition", Nudge nudge know what I mean...?
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Exactly what we need here
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More Monty Python Humm... I was behind a car at the car wash on Union Ave. in Laconia this morning... NH Plates "DRH" . Dianne and I agreed the person looked very suspicious.
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Who Was That Masked Man?
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Curious ... did the person driving that car by any chance look like the "detective" Skipper of the Sea Que saw taking a photo of the raffle quilt at ForumFest III? Could there perhaps be a DRH impersonator lurking around?
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M-N-M, Now that you mention it, those quilts do get awfully hot. Every night I find myself suddenly flinging my quilt off, fanning myself furiously, and feeling as though I'm on fire! It has to be the quilt, because it couldn't possibly have anything to do with my age ...
could it?
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hmmmm .... looks like a serious case of Cabin Fever, and it is contagious.
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Detective who ?
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I heard from my brothers cousins uncles half dog twice removed that the burned up sled was painted orange with a "01" and confederate flag on the cowl. DRH & m-n-m, the Bo and Luke Duke of the quilt smuggling world???
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Do I detect a cover up here? Looks like M-n-M is getting warm ... on the trail.
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call in Q division
I think we need Inspector Harry 'Snapper" Organs og the Q Division to investigate. He did nab Doug and Dinsdale Piranha
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Mark will have to look for some other connection. Meanwile... the quilts are getting snuggled and smuggled. Quilt lady, do you make some of those quilts out of hemp? That might explain the smuggling and also the reason people just let the thing burn P.S. you didn't want to "blow his cover." That was very clever I appreciate the subtlety
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You folks are completely off base. The people driving the snowmobile were lost because they didn't have Bizer's latest chart. They stopped and decided to send up a signal flare. Problem was, they didn't have one and the only thing that would burn was the sled. So.......they torched it, hoping to be rescued.
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