Ice Starting To Form

White Rook · 12-02-2007, 11:26 AM

Hello All,

A thin layer of ice beginning to form in Alton Bay and it's only December 2nd. Here's the live view cam.

http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam/?justshowme=true.

Formula260SS · 12-02-2007, 05:36 PM

Made the last trip to the island today, on the way up all the small water holes next to the road were frozen over and all the lakes had some skim on parts of them.

Frozen spray on the shore line, by the looks of it the waves yesterday were crashing pretty high up the bank, I'd guess 4ft out there. Was a bit chilly on the way over but the lake was good.

How many weeks until ice in ?

CanisLupusArctos · 12-02-2007, 06:51 PM

Tonight I saw ice forming in the normal protected spots around The Inn At Bay Point in Meredith Bay.

Water temp at Black Cat WeatherCam is 40 both at the surface and 10 feet down. For a time last night the surface reading dropped to 39 but came back up again when the air temp stopped falling (it bottomed out at 10) and the dewpoint also came up.

Ice-in depends totally on the temp, wind and humidity now. Extremely low humidity (dewpoint near or below zero F) normally associated with arctic blasts would help the water temp to drop quickly, especially if wind blows over the water surface. However, if it stays windy, the open areas of the lake will not freeze until we finally get a clear, calm and cold night. If the air temp comes back up to normal it will slow the water's rate of cooling which is currently about 2 degrees per week.

The anticipated snowpack will help reflect heat away from the earth for as long as it remains... this will be especially noticeable if we get a clear calm night with low dewpoint.

GWC... · 12-02-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formula260SS

Made the last trip to the island today, on the way up all the small water holes next to the road were frozen over and all the lakes had some skim on parts of them.

Frozen spray on the shore line, by the looks of it the waves yesterday were crashing pretty high up the bank, I'd guess 4ft out there. Was a bit chilly on the way over but the lake was good.

How many weeks until ice in ?

FLL made a trip to the Island on January 7th...

Zee · 12-02-2007, 08:24 PM

Drove by 19 Mile Bay this afternoon and was surprised to see ice forming as far out as Chase Isl. It wasn't solid but thinly formed in sections. If the wind stays calm, this may be the start. Winter Harbor and Wolfeboro Bay had no visible ice.

Weirs guy · 12-03-2007, 12:09 PM

I must admit I was a little disapointed by yesterdays white caps out there.

ITD · 12-03-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWC...

FLL made a trip to the Island on January 7th...

Hmmmm, from the close up picture, it looks like Less has a pointy head.

John A. Birdsall · 12-03-2007, 02:30 PM

So how soon do you suppose someone will drive their 2008 suv on what is presummed to be solid Ice??

Lakegeezer · 12-05-2007, 07:04 PM

The ice is forming quick up near Ambrose Cove marina (the old Aries), to the point you couldn't navigate a boat south from there. Mid afternoon, I saw one boat pulling another across the lake towards the marina. They were going slow and snaking around the skim ice. In 15 years, the earliest I've seen it safe to walk on the ice is December 17'th - and within a week it had opened up again. This may be a record year!

Merrymeeting · 12-05-2007, 07:16 PM

Here in north central MA, the ponds I pass on the way to work skimmed over as of yesterday morning, and the thickening continued today.

It's the earliest I can recall in several years.

But it does look like it will be somewhat warmer next week.

HomeWood · 12-06-2007, 03:26 AM

Thanks for the update LakeGeezer. See you in February!

Weekend Pundit · 12-07-2007, 06:53 PM

I've seen some ice along the shore of Lily Pond (at the end of the runway at the Laconia Airport) as well as some in Glendale, Smith's Cove and in among the slips at Fay's over the past couple of days.

Somehow I don't think it will be a repeat of last winter with good boating going on during 65 degree weather in January.

Mee-n-Mac · 12-07-2007, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weekend Pundit

I've seen some ice along the shore of Lily Pond (at the end of the runway at the Laconia Airport) as well as some in Glendale, Smith's Cove and in among the slips at Fay's over the past couple of days.

Somehow I don't think it will be a repeat of last winter with good boating going on during 65 degree weather in January.

Yup, it sure appears that it'll offset last year's late ice in.

So when can we start to "challenge" ABCCC for the winter contest ?

The WinniFlyer is hungry and needs to be fed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

radar4401 · 12-08-2007, 10:52 AM

For those interested, Lake Ossipee, Lake Wentworth & Crescent Lake are all frozen over! Looks like a more normal winter this year so far.

HomeWood · 12-09-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radar4401

For those interested, Lake Ossipee, Lake Wentworth & Crescent Lake are all frozen over! Looks like a more normal winter this year so far.

Wow! I just checked Wentworths cam and I think my face looked like this

gtxrider · 12-10-2007, 08:58 AM

Remember that when the ice forms the ice fishing holes float back to the surface. Watch your step and don't trip in one

Weirs guy · 12-10-2007, 12:21 PM

Lord, no more ice hole comments please. I landed on moderation last year because of them!

I noticed yesterday morning that Paugus Bay has iced over about 1/3 of the way out from Rt. 3, and it was still like that this a.m.!

Mink Islander · 12-11-2007, 09:01 AM

Ice formation is going to start to accelerate. Looks like we're a couple of weeks ahead of a "typical" winter -- if there is such a thing. The upcoming wind will hamper things a bit but the overall projected trends in air temps will support rapid ice formation once it calms again. It won't be long now.

Weirs guy · 12-11-2007, 12:44 PM

I noticed between last night and this morning that:

a. Paugus Bay has not lost any ice.
b. Weirs Bay is beginning to form ice between the public beach and the pier about 1/3 of the way out.
c. Winnisquam seems to have iced over completely in the lower section beside Rt. 3 behind the Anchorage.

Ice in by New Years?

gtxrider · 12-12-2007, 07:35 AM

Looking at the Spencer Hughes web cam it looks like the ice is close to the Mount Dock. Is it up that far?

Will there be a bed race this year?

Long Island Baba · 12-13-2007, 01:28 PM

Starting at Long Island Beach and at the Campground beach just before the bridge.

kayakn · 12-14-2007, 06:02 AM

Noticed last night ice from mainland out to little island infront of us, approx 100 ft. This goes over to the Rattlesnake Landing and is snow covered! It's coming!

jcbanks · 12-14-2007, 08:50 AM

mcdude · 12-19-2007, 09:17 AM

I haven't been able to get the Alton Bay Cam to work for some time now.. Is it the cam or is it me? I'm using this link
http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam/?justshowme=true

GWC... · 12-19-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdude

I haven't been able to get the Alton Bay Cam to work for some time now.. Is it the cam or is it me? I'm using this link
http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam/?justshowme=true

The link you provided worked for my system...

trfour · 12-19-2007, 12:19 PM

mcdude,
Try this link; http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam

I had the same problem using your link. The one above works great.

SIKSUKR · 12-19-2007, 01:46 PM

Weirs bay from the Weirs cam looks all iced in.

fatlazyless · 12-19-2007, 04:55 PM

Everything aound the south end of Bear Island, from Mark to Horse and north up towards Centre Habor has a solid and thin looking sheet of ice, now. Drawing a line from Horse Island to the east side of Mark Isl and going towards Governors is still all open water.

It won't be long

(Just remember that 1964 hit song by The Beetles and sing along...)

It won't be long
It won't be long

It won't be long
Till you say good~bye to open wat~ter...

Laa-tee-daa ~

Gilford Lowe's got all sold out of sno-throwers....wooooshhh....all gone.

SIKSUKR · 12-20-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Gilford Lowe's got all sold out of sno-throwers....wooooshhh....all gone.

Wal-mart still had plenty.

mcdude · 12-20-2007, 05:21 PM

Thanks, Guys. For some reason, tonight, both links work just fine.

DRH · 12-21-2007, 08:58 AM

The heavy snow yesterday accumulated on top of the near-freezing water near our shoreline. During the afternoon a slight breeze came up which blew the layer of snow into "wrinkles", almost like ribbon candy. We've never seen this before.

Click HERE for a larger version of the photo.

gtxrider · 12-21-2007, 11:27 AM

Looks like Quilt Lady is washing the curtains in the lake. Cool Picture (no pun intented)

flyguy · 12-21-2007, 02:48 PM

Ice is starting to for torwards the shore... The Broads are still quite fluid.

Gatto Nero · 12-21-2007, 03:01 PM

DRH. that's a cool shot, thanks.

SIKSUKR · 12-21-2007, 03:06 PM

Great shots.Thanks DRH and Flyguy.

LIforrelaxin · 12-21-2007, 04:01 PM

Well I normally hate to jump on the band wagon, but DRH and Flyguy, nice photographs thank you both for showing.

DRH you are right that is a very interesting interaction with the snow and water.... very cool though......

Now where is that ribbon candy?????

GWC... · 12-21-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Well I normally hate to jump on the band wagon, but DRH and Flyguy, nice photographs thank you both for showing.

DRH you are right that is a very interesting interaction with the snow and water.... very cool though......

Now where is that ribbon candy?????

Kellerhaus...,

unfortunately, they are sold out for shipping.

islandAl · 12-21-2007, 05:27 PM

Thanks, both are absolutly great.
Must have been perfect type conditions for the snow to form like that. How long has it lasted?
The arial is a view that few of us get to see without your assistance, Flyguy, thanks.

DRH · 12-21-2007, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by islandAl

Thanks, both are absolutly great.
Must have been perfect type conditions for the snow to form like that. How long has it lasted?

Al, the snow "wrinkles" lasted only for a couple hours before the wind shifted and they were blown out toward open water. The open water where they went was frozen over this morning, so those wrinkles of snow may have become frozen into the ice.

sum-r breeze · 12-21-2007, 08:26 PM

Hi Gang,
Is there a general date when ice is usually completely in? Is it like ice out that changes from year to year? When do the bob houses roll the dice on ice thickness and appear in the bays?

Thanks,
The Breeze
Wave 'cuz I'll be waving back

12-02-2007, 11:26 AM	#1
White Rook Deceased Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Salem NH Posts: 101 Thanks: 51 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Ice Starting To Form Hello All, A thin layer of ice beginning to form in Alton Bay and it's only December 2nd. Here's the live view cam. http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam/?justshowme=true. __________________ "Checkmate King II ... This Is White Rook .... Over"

12-02-2007, 05:36 PM	#2
Formula260SS Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NH Posts: 384 Thanks: 11 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts	Final Voyage Made the last trip to the island today, on the way up all the small water holes next to the road were frozen over and all the lakes had some skim on parts of them. Frozen spray on the shore line, by the looks of it the waves yesterday were crashing pretty high up the bank, I'd guess 4ft out there. Was a bit chilly on the way over but the lake was good. How many weeks until ice in ?

12-02-2007, 06:51 PM	#3
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Meredith Bay too Tonight I saw ice forming in the normal protected spots around The Inn At Bay Point in Meredith Bay. Water temp at Black Cat WeatherCam is 40 both at the surface and 10 feet down. For a time last night the surface reading dropped to 39 but came back up again when the air temp stopped falling (it bottomed out at 10) and the dewpoint also came up. Ice-in depends totally on the temp, wind and humidity now. Extremely low humidity (dewpoint near or below zero F) normally associated with arctic blasts would help the water temp to drop quickly, especially if wind blows over the water surface. However, if it stays windy, the open areas of the lake will not freeze until we finally get a clear, calm and cold night. If the air temp comes back up to normal it will slow the water's rate of cooling which is currently about 2 degrees per week. The anticipated snowpack will help reflect heat away from the earth for as long as it remains... this will be especially noticeable if we get a clear calm night with low dewpoint.

12-02-2007, 08:24 PM	#5
Zee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Union Wharf, Tuftonboro Posts: 173 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	19 Mile Bay icing Drove by 19 Mile Bay this afternoon and was surprised to see ice forming as far out as Chase Isl. It wasn't solid but thinly formed in sections. If the wind stays calm, this may be the start. Winter Harbor and Wolfeboro Bay had no visible ice.

12-03-2007, 12:09 PM	#6
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I must admit I was a little disapointed by yesterdays white caps out there. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-03-2007, 02:30 PM	#8
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	vechicles So how soon do you suppose someone will drive their 2008 suv on what is presummed to be solid Ice??

12-05-2007, 07:04 PM	#9
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Someone's last ride of the season The ice is forming quick up near Ambrose Cove marina (the old Aries), to the point you couldn't navigate a boat south from there. Mid afternoon, I saw one boat pulling another across the lake towards the marina. They were going slow and snaking around the skim ice. In 15 years, the earliest I've seen it safe to walk on the ice is December 17'th - and within a week it had opened up again. This may be a record year! __________________ -lg

12-05-2007, 07:16 PM	#10
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,217 Thanks: 299 Thanked 795 Times in 365 Posts	Here in north central MA, the ponds I pass on the way to work skimmed over as of yesterday morning, and the thickening continued today. It's the earliest I can recall in several years. But it does look like it will be somewhat warmer next week.

12-06-2007, 03:26 AM	#11
HomeWood Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Clayton,NC / Sanbornton,NH Posts: 610 Thanks: 125 Thanked 136 Times in 74 Posts	Thanks for the update LakeGeezer. See you in February!

12-07-2007, 06:53 PM	#12
Weekend Pundit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 291 Thanks: 19 Thanked 51 Times in 31 Posts	Ice in Gilford I've seen some ice along the shore of Lily Pond (at the end of the runway at the Laconia Airport) as well as some in Glendale, Smith's Cove and in among the slips at Fay's over the past couple of days. Somehow I don't think it will be a repeat of last winter with good boating going on during 65 degree weather in January.

12-08-2007, 10:52 AM	#14
radar4401 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 58 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	For those interested, Lake Ossipee, Lake Wentworth & Crescent Lake are all frozen over! Looks like a more normal winter this year so far.

12-10-2007, 08:58 AM	#16
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	be careful on the ice Remember that when the ice forms the ice fishing holes float back to the surface. Watch your step and don't trip in one

12-10-2007, 12:21 PM	#17
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Lord, no more ice hole comments please. I landed on moderation last year because of them! I noticed yesterday morning that Paugus Bay has iced over about 1/3 of the way out from Rt. 3, and it was still like that this a.m.! __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-11-2007, 09:01 AM	#18
Mink Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 753 Thanks: 59 Thanked 271 Times in 129 Posts	36 degrees and counting Ice formation is going to start to accelerate. Looks like we're a couple of weeks ahead of a "typical" winter -- if there is such a thing. The upcoming wind will hamper things a bit but the overall projected trends in air temps will support rapid ice formation once it calms again. It won't be long now.

12-11-2007, 12:44 PM	#19
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I noticed between last night and this morning that: a. Paugus Bay has not lost any ice. b. Weirs Bay is beginning to form ice between the public beach and the pier about 1/3 of the way out. c. Winnisquam seems to have iced over completely in the lower section beside Rt. 3 behind the Anchorage. Ice in by New Years? __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-12-2007, 07:35 AM	#20
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Alton Bay Mount Dock Looking at the Spencer Hughes web cam it looks like the ice is close to the Mount Dock. Is it up that far? Will there be a bed race this year?

12-13-2007, 01:28 PM	#21
Long Island Baba Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 78 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Long Island Starting at Long Island Beach and at the Campground beach just before the bridge.

12-14-2007, 06:02 AM	#22
kayakn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Laconia Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Glidden Cove Noticed last night ice from mainland out to little island infront of us, approx 100 ft. This goes over to the Rattlesnake Landing and is snow covered! It's coming!

12-14-2007, 08:50 AM	#23
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12-19-2007, 09:17 AM	#24
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,361 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,044 Times in 490 Posts	I haven't been able to get the Alton Bay Cam to work for some time now.. Is it the cam or is it me? I'm using this link http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam/?justshowme=true

12-19-2007, 12:19 PM	#26
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	mcdude, Try this link; http://www.spencerhughes.com/altoncam I had the same problem using your link. The one above works great. __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

12-19-2007, 01:46 PM	#27
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Weirs bay from the Weirs cam looks all iced in. __________________ SIKSUKR

12-19-2007, 04:55 PM	#28
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,528 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 296 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Everything aound the south end of Bear Island, from Mark to Horse and north up towards Centre Habor has a solid and thin looking sheet of ice, now. Drawing a line from Horse Island to the east side of Mark Isl and going towards Governors is still all open water. It won't be long (Just remember that 1964 hit song by The Beetles and sing along...) It won't be long It won't be long It won't be long Till you say good~bye to open wat~ter... Laa-tee-daa ~ Gilford Lowe's got all sold out of sno-throwers....wooooshhh....all gone. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-20-2007, 05:21 PM	#30
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,361 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,044 Times in 490 Posts	Thanks, Guys. For some reason, tonight, both links work just fine.

12-21-2007, 08:58 AM	#31
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 1,183 Thanked 655 Times in 173 Posts	Snow Wrinkles The heavy snow yesterday accumulated on top of the near-freezing water near our shoreline. During the afternoon a slight breeze came up which blew the layer of snow into "wrinkles", almost like ribbon candy. We've never seen this before. Click HERE for a larger version of the photo. Click HERE for a larger version of the photo. __________________ DRH Last edited by DRH; 12-21-2007 at 09:43 AM. Reason: Added Second Photo

12-21-2007, 11:27 AM	#32
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	wash day? Looks like Quilt Lady is washing the curtains in the lake. Cool Picture (no pun intented)

12-21-2007, 02:48 PM	#33
flyguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 383 Thanks: 9 Thanked 101 Times in 20 Posts	Rattlesnake Ice- Aerial Photo Ice is starting to for torwards the shore... The Broads are still quite fluid. Attached Images __________________ Bill Hemmel LakesRegionAerials.com "We have a slightly different point of view"

12-21-2007, 03:01 PM	#34
Gatto Nero Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Isola Gatto Nero Posts: 696 Thanks: 162 Thanked 263 Times in 81 Posts	Snow Wrinkles DRH. that's a cool shot, thanks. __________________ La vita è buona su Isola Gatto Nero

12-21-2007, 03:06 PM	#35
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Great shots.Thanks DRH and Flyguy. __________________ SIKSUKR

12-21-2007, 04:01 PM	#36
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, not that one, the one on Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,827 Thanks: 1,017 Thanked 882 Times in 516 Posts	A third Well I normally hate to jump on the band wagon, but DRH and Flyguy, nice photographs thank you both for showing. DRH you are right that is a very interesting interaction with the snow and water.... very cool though...... Now where is that ribbon candy????? __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

12-21-2007, 05:27 PM	#38
islandAl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mountonboro Posts: 200 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fabulous Thanks, both are absolutly great. Must have been perfect type conditions for the snow to form like that. How long has it lasted? The arial is a view that few of us get to see without your assistance, Flyguy, thanks.

12-21-2007, 08:26 PM	#40
sum-r breeze Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Burlington Ma / Laconia NH Posts: 396 Thanks: 155 Thanked 201 Times in 97 Posts	General Date? Hi Gang, Is there a general date when ice is usually completely in? Is it like ice out that changes from year to year? When do the bob houses roll the dice on ice thickness and appear in the bays? Thanks, The Breeze Wave 'cuz I'll be waving back