Ethanol

secondcurve · 05-10-2007, 05:59 PM

Can someone tell me what marinas are selling ethonol fee gasoline? Is it just a couple or most of them.

Thanks

Lakegeezer · 05-10-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

Can someone tell me what marinas are selling ethonol fee gasoline? Is it just a couple or most of them.

Thanks

I filled my boat at Fullers in Moultonboro last week and checked for a sign on the pump. I did not see anything mentioning MTBE or Ethenol. I assume that means that neither additive is in there, but am not sure my assumptions are correct.

Paugus Bay Resident · 05-10-2007, 08:32 PM

3.39 at Irwins (no ethanol)

secondcurve · 05-11-2007, 05:17 AM

I guess it is safe to say there is no ethenol on the lake this year. I can't imagine that any of the marinas would be selling it if others weren't.

robmac · 05-11-2007, 06:28 AM

the marinas aren't selling ethanol enriched fuel because of the damage it does. some manufacturers state in the owners manual not to use it at all(outboards)

fpartri497 · 05-11-2007, 07:42 AM

$3.59 @ west alton marine tuesday

Water Camper · 05-11-2007, 07:44 AM

Gas was $3.18 last Monday 5/7/2007 at Lakeport Landing.

Bill

jrc · 05-11-2007, 08:28 AM

Check this out from the state:

http://www.des.state.nh.us/ard/mobil...EthanolFAQ.pdf

ossipeeboater · 05-11-2007, 08:44 AM

we are fortunate that in Belknap and Carrol counties there is no EPA requirement for Ethanol to be blended and since they are getting there fuel from Portland not Revere it's coming in without E blended in.

islandAl · 05-11-2007, 09:45 AM

since MtBE was banned in all of NH as of Jan. 1, 2007 (per the link info in earlier message) what is being added to make the octane rating if they are not using Ethanol?
As far as Fullers, I recall seeing the 10% ethanol label last year. But they changed ownership since I recall looking.

ossipeeboater · 05-11-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by islandAl

since MtBE was banned in all of NH as of Jan. 1, 2007 (per the link info in earlier message) what is being added to make the octane rating if they are not using Ethanol?
As far as Fullers, I recall seeing the 10% ethanol label last year. But they changed ownership since I recall looking.

MTBE/Ethanol was only an EPA requirement for the southern counties and into MA, central and northern NH as well as Maine did not fall under the smog reducing requirements therefore did not have to blend MTBE or Ethanol. Thats where we got lucky in that the marinas can still buy the gas barged into Portland, some of the stations on land I have seen go to E fuel probably because they get it supplied from Revere not Portland.

robmac · 05-11-2007, 05:30 PM

MBTE was added to gasoline to clean emissions, however it was found to contaminate ground and well water so badly the state banned it as did all others. Ethanol was added to cut down on emissions of HC(hydrocarbons-unburnt fuel) not for fuel economy or your pocketbook

secondcurve · 05-11-2007, 08:14 PM

Thanks guys. This all makes sense. Will the lake be ethenol free forever or will it switch over in the future. Thanks again.

robmac · 05-12-2007, 07:05 AM

manufacturers are changing fuel systems on boat to better deal with ethanol.However you'll still have to be aware of build up of moisture because of it.

KPW · 06-04-2007, 09:44 PM

Pier 19 has ethanol free gas @ $3.39/gal

masssteve · 06-05-2007, 11:58 AM

Channel has a big banner up "ethanol free"

Aquadeziac · 06-05-2007, 07:46 PM

I didn't believe this until I did it myself. Pour about 12-14oz of "10% Ethanol" blended gas into a clean, dry, clear soda bottle and sit it on a shelf and watch it over the next two months. The results will amaze you. Then think about the gas in your boat, jetski, even RV or collector car when it sits for the off season.

secondcurve · 06-06-2007, 06:08 AM

Does anyone know how long Winnipesaukee will remain ethanol free? It looks like this year is in the bag. What about next year?

chipj29 · 06-06-2007, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquadeziac

I didn't believe this until I did it myself. Pour about 12-14oz of "10% Ethanol" blended gas into a clean, dry, clear soda bottle and sit it on a shelf and watch it over the next two months. The results will amaze you. Then think about the gas in your boat, jetski, even RV or collector car when it sits for the off season.

What happens? Does it separate? Can it be re-mixed?

SIKSUKR · 06-06-2007, 08:42 AM

Ya Aqua,Do we have to wait 2 months to find out what happens or are you going to tell us?

05-10-2007, 05:59 PM	#1
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 1,267 Thanked 557 Times in 286 Posts	Ethanol Can someone tell me what marinas are selling ethonol fee gasoline? Is it just a couple or most of them. Thanks

05-11-2007, 07:42 AM	#6
fpartri497 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Concord NH Posts: 681 Thanks: 97 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts	gas price $3.59 @ west alton marine tuesday __________________ dont worry be happy

05-11-2007, 07:44 AM	#7
Water Camper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pembroke, NH / Laconia, NH Posts: 450 Thanks: 10 Thanked 206 Times in 88 Posts	Lakeport Gas Gas was $3.18 last Monday 5/7/2007 at Lakeport Landing. Bill

05-11-2007, 09:45 AM	#10
islandAl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mountonboro Posts: 200 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Octane rating since MtBE was banned in all of NH as of Jan. 1, 2007 (per the link info in earlier message) what is being added to make the octane rating if they are not using Ethanol? As far as Fullers, I recall seeing the 10% ethanol label last year. But they changed ownership since I recall looking.

06-05-2007, 07:46 PM	#17
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Science Experiment I didn't believe this until I did it myself. Pour about 12-14oz of "10% Ethanol" blended gas into a clean, dry, clear soda bottle and sit it on a shelf and watch it over the next two months. The results will amaze you. Then think about the gas in your boat, jetski, even RV or collector car when it sits for the off season. __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

05-10-2007, 08:32 PM	#3
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 92 Times in 51 Posts	3.39 at Irwins (no ethanol)

05-11-2007, 05:17 AM	#4
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 1,267 Thanked 557 Times in 286 Posts	I guess it is safe to say there is no ethenol on the lake this year. I can't imagine that any of the marinas would be selling it if others weren't.

05-11-2007, 06:28 AM	#5
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	the marinas aren't selling ethanol enriched fuel because of the damage it does. some manufacturers state in the owners manual not to use it at all(outboards)

05-11-2007, 08:28 AM	#8
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Check this out from the state: http://www.des.state.nh.us/ard/mobil...EthanolFAQ.pdf

05-11-2007, 08:44 AM	#9
ossipeeboater Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 157 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	we are fortunate that in Belknap and Carrol counties there is no EPA requirement for Ethanol to be blended and since they are getting there fuel from Portland not Revere it's coming in without E blended in.

05-11-2007, 05:30 PM	#12
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	MBTE was added to gasoline to clean emissions, however it was found to contaminate ground and well water so badly the state banned it as did all others. Ethanol was added to cut down on emissions of HC(hydrocarbons-unburnt fuel) not for fuel economy or your pocketbook

05-11-2007, 08:14 PM	#13
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 1,267 Thanked 557 Times in 286 Posts	Thanks guys. This all makes sense. Will the lake be ethenol free forever or will it switch over in the future. Thanks again.

05-12-2007, 07:05 AM	#14
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	manufacturers are changing fuel systems on boat to better deal with ethanol.However you'll still have to be aware of build up of moisture because of it.

06-04-2007, 09:44 PM	#15
KPW Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 378 Thanks: 710 Thanked 116 Times in 58 Posts	Pier 19 has ethanol free gas @ $3.39/gal

06-05-2007, 11:58 AM	#16
masssteve Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Reading, MA & Laconia, NH Posts: 67 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Channel has a big banner up "ethanol free"

06-06-2007, 06:08 AM	#18
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 1,267 Thanked 557 Times in 286 Posts	Does anyone know how long Winnipesaukee will remain ethanol free? It looks like this year is in the bag. What about next year?

06-06-2007, 08:42 AM	#20
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Ya Aqua,Do we have to wait 2 months to find out what happens or are you going to tell us? __________________ SIKSUKR