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New law for tubing???
Hey guys, heard a rumor and haven't been able to confirm or deny yet so figured I would ask here.
I heard there was now no limit to the number of riders you could tow on a tube, and that you need only 2 spotters regardless of the number of riders. Is there any truth to this? has it already passed and been signed into law or just in process?? If I posted this in the wrong section, sorry, please feel free to relocate if needed.
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Last I heard there was a proposal in Concord to allow up to 6 on a tube with two spotters at least 13 and physically able to render aid if needed to the folks on the tube. I was told this was proposed to help the summer camps on the lakes out but have not heard if it was approved or by any legislative body yet or not.
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SB317 - Tubing Bill
Safe Boaters of NH was approached by The Marine Trades Association to assist in this bill's passage.
The bill had been tabled by The House after being voted out of committee unanomously. Luckily SBONH was able to have a meeting with the Speakers office and gain their support to have Rep. John Hikel pull it from the table before sessions end. The Bill was then approved on a voice vote last week. It is currently with the Governor's office and expected to be signed off on. Luckily it goes into effect upon its passage so there is no waiting period. So that should be later this month. Last I heard from the Marine Patrol is the bill was amended to allow 4 people total to be towed on one or more tubes (not skis). there must be 1 observer per 2 people being towed. So if you are pulling 4 tubers you must have a minimum of 2 spotters. I will get a copy of the final bill soon to confirm the amount of tubers. I hope this helps. Thank you to all SBONH members for the help on this bill's passage as well as all our supporters here at Winni.com.
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Personally that is too many people being pulled at once.
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Thanks for the info, I hope it passes, my Grandkids like to ride on the tube, but I only allow them to ride with an adult on the tube with them, it has always been a lot of swapping back n fourth to keep em happy. If it passes then I would be able to tow 2 or 3 at a time with an adult still on the tube with em.
I still disagree with the spotter regs, I think 1 spotter per person if towing 2 skiiers/wake boarders, or 2 separate tubes is a good idea, BUT if all are being towed on a single tube then 1 spotter should be fine, as they would only need to focus on the 1 tube, they would easily be able to spot anyone falling off the single tube. But I'll take any improvement i can get, even if it is a small step at a time.
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Many actually believe they have they right of way when they are pulling someone no matter what direction they are taking. I think this is an accident waiting to happen.
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http://www.towablesmart.com/ps/8/pap...ater-tube.html
That's great news...I've got one of these puppies and it's a blast. Much more fun with 3 aboard with one standing to steer and two laying down. Can't believe government actually restored one of our rights instead of taking another one away. |
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We towed 7 teenagers on 3 tubes for awhile last year (not in NH). That was a riot to watch. They were jumping from tube to tube and just having a blast. The new "normal" for us is 2 tubes with 2 to 4 riders in total. My kids are looking forward to this change in the law.
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Does the driver count as a spotter? It would seem to me that on a busy summer day the boat operator has enough to do dealing with other boat traffic.
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Thanks. I've never towed anything other than a couple of broken boats and a jet ski. I'm glad to hear that
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So right now, if you have 2 ppl on a single tube, does the law require 1 or 2 spotters (obviously not including the driver)?
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Reread sb317 tubing bill above. I read 1 observer for up to 2 tubers.
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Current Spotter Law
is the big reason you no longer see those spectacular water ski shows, the ones with a human pyramid or the weaving in and out of water skiers. I am hoping for a return of the water ski shows!
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I am sure that if someone wanted to put on a waterski show on Winni, and have a 15 person pyaramid with 8 across the bottom, the marine patrol would be granting waivers.
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Does the Back Bay ski club still put on a show in Wolfeboro Bay?
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What about the distraction of the driver arguing with the spotter?
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Is there a new law that says the spotter has to be your wife?
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One more thing about the spotter...
All good stuff folks!
One last thing to mention about the spotter. He/She must be physically able to assist the person in the water back into the boat. Great grandma may not do. So with the new law, one spotter for two tubers, how many spotters for three tubers? Misty Blue. |
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Under the new law, two spotters is the most you need to have.
See final version of bill: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...12/SB0317.html |
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According to the way I'm reading this, 6 tubes could be behind a boat...? Who thinks this is a good idea? The same people who think it's a good idea to only allow 2 waterskiers? Where is the logic here?
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LOL...come sit on my dock on a Saturday in July. Common sense? The lack thereof is why our boats don't leave the dock at such times. So I guess, yes, common sense does prevail. (You didn't address the somewhat rhetorical question of why it's okay to tow multiple tubes with multiple people on them, but one can only tow two waterskiers.)
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Just an fyi...I am not certain the new modified version of the law allows for six tubers. Hopefully someone will clarify. But when do we stop writing laws for idiots?... Do we really need a law that says it not safe to tow six tubes behind a boat?? Really?? It's completely unsafe to drive a car on 1" of ice, do we really need a law to state that?? I say enough with the law making! |
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Absolutely correct!! but unfortunately, there plenty out there that think every move we make should be legislated/regulated.
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So to be clear...
You need a minimum of four people to tube. Operator Tuber Spotter one Spotter two Does anyone have a link to the current law? |
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According to the text of the bill in the link that Knomad provided, you only need one spotter if you are towing less than three tubers.
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Have you tried two basic flat tubes at once yet? If not, you are welcome to borrow mine. We have not towed a single tube since we got the second one. Two at once is much more than twice the fun of a single tube, and it's been legal here all along... |
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Checked with the Marine Patrol today. It has not been signed into law as of yet.
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that is scary!! Most people don't pay attention pulling ONE tuber never mind a bunch of kids!! Experienced boaters would be fine but a guy up for a week never having driven a boat before..........not gonna end well!!
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LOL..."that is scary...!" Ya think? Which Saturday afternoon in July or August would you like to come and sit on my dock and watch? Please pray that it only ends well, in spite of the fact that it's gonna be sh*t show.
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The thought of 2 Tubes with 2 tubers on each sounds Awesome!!!!!! Let's do it!!!!!!
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I don't need to "strive" I do it every day of my life! And you should not assume that I don't.
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Leave formula alone!
RG. I'm ashamed of you. Why were you directing your diatribe at Formula. You should know how hard Formula strives to be a friendly and positive poster. That attitude must transfer to how he boats on the lake. How dare you do such a thing. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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New rule on how many can be towed on a tube?
Is the rumor I just heard true, up to 6 people can be on a tube now on Winni?
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Read the link above, looks to be true. Also found it interested that only 1 observer is needed for 2 ppl on a tube. Bump it up to 3 and above on a tube you need 2 observers.
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6 people is true. We picked up a new 5 person tube on the 30th and absolutely love it. It's called The Jumbo Dog and the kids and their friends have been having a blast!!!!!
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This lake has 256 islands. Surprises happen in its countless coves, and we've seen what inattention and texting has added to our headlines. As I see each day I'm out in The Broads, tubers are towed through heavy "chop" from town to town. If you are towing 5, 6, or 7 kids, be sure to count heads when you arrive! |
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I couldn't help imagining a kid stumbling off the front end of a towed tube while horsing around. Going off the side or rear - well, he just gets wetter. Going off the front and having part of him practically stop dead in the water while the rest of him is driven forward by the tube makes me shudder. |
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You would have to see it to understand how mellow the ride is. All parents were aware. One parent of two of the kids is a Pediatrician that's well known for being over-protective. Another is an Actuary who obviously understands risk; it was his idea.
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New Law anmd Dogs
Does the new law apply to dogs, also, and can the spotters be dogs? Is towing a dog behind a radio controlled boat legal, with no spotter on the boat?
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Maybe I am wrong and it was a mellow ride and I do not have a problem with the number of tubers as I do with them switching tubes. In my opinion at any speed whatsover it would be too easy to bump heads which could cause an injury.
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Sounds mellow compared to the stuff my buds and I used to do as teenagers...
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In a 26-foot I/O boat, two adults were doing dozens of circles around the four little kids. The kids were getting tossed around roughly—which I guess is the "Spirit of Tubing". After getting dizzy watching this, I realized the circles were less than 150-feet in diameter! |
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Safe passage?
So he was too close to himself?
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