Suspicious Death in Wolfeboro

[Waterbaby]

Just saw this on the news.............

http://www.wmur.com/news/19422286/detail.html

[tis]

Yes, I tried to post it earlier, but for the life of me couldn't remember how to start a new thread! I knew if I didn't post certain people would feel those of us on this side of the lake had let them down again!
Anyway, she was the nurse at Carpenter School, (grades one through 3) a very nice, well liked lady. She has five kids and I feel so sorry for those kids. Their lives are surely going to change. She was divorced. The rest is all rumor so will wait til more is out.

[Skip]

A few more details, plus the deceased's identity, can be read this morning at the Union Leader HERE.

[Grant]

As I was heading into Wolfeboro for something to grill yesterday afternoon, I noticed three police cruisers and an SUV in front of that house, which was surrounded with crime scene tape, and a number of law enforcement officers talking at the base of the driveway (one was apparently a detective, in a suit, with shield hanging from suit pocket).

Early this morning (Monday) a State Trooper was stationed at the bottom of the driveway, and a WMUR satellite van was out in front of the Wolfeboro police station. So I picked up a copy of the Citizen and read the news.

The latest is that she died of stab wounds. Still no arrest. Mother of five, and reportedly well-liked in the community. Tragic and sad. Let's hope they nail the perp ASAP.

[tomboymom]

Stacey Burns. Friend, Super-Mom, School Nurse and generous communty member.

To know her...even a bit...was to love her. Her loss is a tragedy that will echo here for many years. Longer for her 5 beloved children.

That smile, that throaty laugh, that ever optomistic attitude and 100% love and enthusiasm for all children.

Our hearts are heavy.

[Coolbreeze]

I hope justice prevails swiftly and those involved in the loss of this life get their due; and without the media frenzy. Those kids don't need anymore grief in their lives.

[Waterbaby]

Originally Posted by tomboymom

Stacey Burns. Friend, Super-Mom, School Nurse and generous communty member.

To know her...even a bit...was to love her. Her loss is a tragedy that will echo here for many years. Longer for her 5 beloved children.

That smile, that throaty laugh, that ever optomistic attitude and 100% love and enthusiasm for all children.

Our hearts are heavy.

I never knew her, I recognized the house on the news (having spent many summers at the end of Lake Street in Wolfeboro) -- my heart and prayers go out to you, her friends and family, and most especially her children. What an awful thing, on Mother's Day in particular.

[codeman671]

There are lots of rumors floating around in Wolfeboro right now pertaining to the Police and their reactions that morning prior to the incident. It will be interesting to see what really shakes out.

An awful tragedy indeed. Those poor kids...

[NHDOLFAN]

I am curious to what rumors you have heard regarding police reaction.

[tis]

Codeman, that is interesting. I have heard so many rumors it seems one a minute, things like who was there , how they found her, how she looked, what she and the kids had been doing the night before, suspects etc. but NONE about the police handling of the situation.
I am not sure I have ever seen as many cars and people at the police station as there were that afternoon when they were questioning people. I thought maybe they were waiting for news and later found out they were being questioned. So it LOOKED like the police were doing their job.

[tis]

I was called and asked to post the following: ( Someone has since said that if you can drop it off in person, it would be best, but if you need to mail a donation to the bank, call the bank in Wolfeboro first to see where to mail it. There are some mailing issues.) If you don't live in Wolfeboro, you can leave it at any Citizens Bank just specify that it is for the Carpenter/Crescent Lake PTO Burns Family Donation Fund.

The Carpenter/Crescent Lake School PTO has set up the Carpenter/Crescent Lake School PTO Burns Family Donation Fund at Citizens Bank in Wolfeboro. This fund is to benefit the Burns family children. For those who wish to donate, please do so at Citizens Bank in Wolfeboro.


Please pass this on, and post on your blogs and forums.


Thank you for helping to bring our community together in a time of crisis.


Deanna Cayon
Kelly Demain
Carpenter/Crescent Lake School PTO Co-Presidents

[old coot]

Don't try mailing your donation to the Citizen's Bank in Wolfeboro - they simply won't get it. Instead hand deliver your donation or call the Citizen's Bank Office in Wolfeboro for instructions. (603) 569-1221.
Anything mailed to them goes to the dead letter office and eventually is returned to the sender!!!
oc

[codeman671]

The stories I heard were pertaining to the PD actions prior to, not after.

I am not one to spread rumors, but a bit of what I heard was that it was an ex-boyfriend with psych issues that she just broke up with that morning. He was hanging out in front of the house acting suspicious. Calls had been made to the PD to make him go away but they did not respond since there was no restraining order. Multiple calls had been placed as he got closer to the house and tried to get in with little or no response from the PD. He entered the house through an open back door and killed her. She was found by a 14 year old child.

Again, I don't know the truth behind it but if it is i can't imagine this would not look good for the PD. I hope this story is not true, yet then again no matter how it was different the outcome is still horrific.

In Wolfeboro???

[secondcurve]

Is the suspect in custody?

[LakesRegionSpirit]

As a former journalist in the area, I think there needs to be great care taken in providing "information" based on "rumors." Much more goes on in the processing of these events than most could ever imagine.
If for no other reason than out of respect for the family and friends.

[Lakesrider]

She should have had a Home Defense shot gun. No police needed.
I have two in my home. I have to wonder why the door was left open, if true.
I mean if several calls were made that the guy was trying to get in, that any door was not bolted shut, especially with kids inside. And if several calls were made by neighbors, did no one in the neighborhood take this guy on themselves. That just pisses me off.

If neighbors had actually called, and this rumor is true, and the cops never showed, then someone should have simply blocked main street with their car until the cops did show up. People need to stand up and help their neighbors.
Maybe that woman might still be alive.

[tis]

I believe her door was almost always open. She was a very warm, open person and her house was always open to the kids and her friends. They went in and out. I don't think that's true that she had just broken up with that guy that morning codeman. I heard she had been going out with someone else for a short while. But she had been dating him previously and they had broken up and I heard she had seen him the night before. Again, rumors. I even hesitate to say that -as who knows which stories are true.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by tis

I don't think that's true that she had just broken up with that guy that morning codeman. I heard she had been going out with someone else for a short while. But she had been dating him previously and they had broken up and I heard she had seen him the night before. Again, rumors. I even hesitate to say that -as who knows which stories are true.

No clue, as mentioned it was a rumor. That is why I was skeptical to even post it. I don't know any of the parties involved, just someone that lives local to her which is where it came from.

The calls came from her as I heard, not a neighbor.

[dpg]

Originally Posted by Lakesrider

She should have had a Home Defense shot gun. No police needed.
I have two in my home. I have to wonder why the door was left open, if true.
I mean if several calls were made that the guy was trying to get in, that any door was not bolted shut, especially with kids inside. And if several calls were made by neighbors, did no one in the neighborhood take this guy on themselves. That just pisses me off.

If neighbors had actually called, and this rumor is true, and the cops never showed, then someone should have simply blocked main street with their car until the cops did show up. People need to stand up and help their neighbors.
Maybe that woman might still be alive.

This is a serious thing to involve yourself in and most people would not. I mean I might call the police on her behalf and talk with them but approach someone, I'm just not sure. There are some strange people out there capable of anything. I own firearms also and shooting someone almost never ends up with an outcome to your benefit. It's easy to talk about what should of been done now after the fact. Personally I feel IF the police were called and told about someone hanging out they should respond. I mean come were they just too busy?? More tax dollars at its best.

[wifi]

Not taking sides, just some interesting reading for the curious. Google will yield many more results:

http://psacake.com/dial_911.asp

http://www.franconianh.org/app/image..._statement.pdf
In particular to the above: "The court stated that the town has no affirmative duty to respond to any complaint of a citizen pursuant to RSA 91-A"

aahhheeemmm...

[fatlazyless]

Yeah, too bad I wasn't there. I would-a rolled a nice thick, sticky coat of Benjamin Moore grey oil paint, all across his eyes, just so's he couldn't see anything. And then he would a-got covered with all black flies and no-see-ums, too!

Seems like people can take themselves right up to the edge of the cliff with their money troubles, and then powered up by a few beers or liquor, they jump off the edge thinking they just do not care, or possibly they are just not thinking, and go do something they know is wrong.

Her death has got to be one of the saddest events ever to hit Wolfeboro.

[Happy Gourmand]

Postulating and assessing blame based on speculation and rumors. Lacking any substantial facts, I feel that the only appropriate comments should be directed towards sympathy for this tragic incident and concern and support for family and friends of the deceased.
Respect and consideration for the family should prevail at this point.

[fatlazyless]

Today's Laconia Citizen has a lengthy article, "Divorce records show slain woman's troubled union", by John Quinn, on page B4. Don't know if it is in the www.citizen.com website, plus my links never-ever seem to work.

Good, well researched article and worth the 50 cents, too!

[fatlazyless]

The Boston Globe just raised its' NH daily price to 1.50 so's no one in the lakes region can afford it anymore. Like, what good is a newspaper if nobody reads it? Down on a lower corner of today's front page, the Globe has a Wolfeboro sidewalk photo of a few people walking past Dive Winnipesaukee and Yankee Pedlar. Check out the after-story, email comments....it's a wild web world....

Could someone create a working link to today's Boston Globe May 25 article "Crimes jolt N.H. tourist town" written by two lady reporters. It's lengthy and speaks to the town's emotional side of this incredibly bad crime.

[Heaven]

Globe article not worth the paper it was printed on, don't bother buying. Re-hash of all the other articles/statements to date.

[Ropetow]

Originally Posted by Heaven

Globe article not worth the paper it was printed on, don't bother buying. Re-hash of all the other articles/statements to date.

That is true of the Globe in general these days. Used to be worth it for the sports section, but now the Herald and WEEI.com have better coverage.

[lulu59]

Well, we enter day 15 with no arrest. How can there be no DNA? How can there be so much speculation and so little activity??
At the funeral? At the house? Out on &500,000 bail? 900lbs. of weed and no prior record? 71 year old lady along for the ride as a guise??
Soon, all will be exposed. And what you thought was small town USA.
http://www.granitestatenews.com/Arti..._Illinois.html

[Heaven]

Originally Posted by lulu59

Well,we enter day 15 with no arrest.How can there be no DNA?How can there be so much speculation and so little activity??
At the funeral?At the house?Out on &500,000 bail?900lbs. of weed and no prior record?71 year old lady along for the ride as a guise??
Soon,all will be exposed.And what you thought was small town USA.
http://www.granitestatenews.com/Arti..._Illinois.html

Nobody said there was no DNA.

[SAMIAM]

How tough can it be. There are two suspects. One has an alibi and one does not. I hate to go up there and take over the investigation, but it's been two weeks.
The coroner can pinpoint the time of death so I might be looking for the person who can not verify his wereabouts at that time.

[tis]

Somebody said today it takes three weeks to get the DNA results back. Maybe that is what they are waiting for. But you would think there would be no harm in telling us that. There are more than two suspects, Sam. I have heard at least 7 names. But I do wish you would come up here and straighten them out! It is time to get something done!
And then another sad thing today, one of the people killed in Effingham was the son of a local landscaper who lives on Rte. 109A. Not to get off topic, but I guess I did.

[Cowgirlnh]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

How tough can it be. There are two suspects. One has an alibi and one does not. I hate to go up there and take over the investigation, but it's been two weeks.
The coroner can pinpoint the time of death so I might be looking for the person who can not verify his wereabouts at that time.

Tis is right, there are more than two suspects. But it's my understanding that neither of the two main suspects has an alibi.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

How tough can it be.There are two suspects.One has an alibi and one does not.I hate to go up there and take over the investigation, but it's been two weeks.
The coroner can pinpoint the time of death so I might be looking for the person who can not verify his wereabouts at that time.

Sam:

Aren't you the same guy who constantly has been chiding posters to let the process work in the case of the boater who ran into an island and killed her friend?

[ApS]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

"...In the Governor's Island midnight home invasion...The Marine Patrol was right there...very involved in stopping the bad guys (ex-husband or ex-wife?)..."

These appeared in the Boston Globe around Spring of 1994. The article can be purchased, but here are the most significant exerpts provided:

LACONIA, N.H. -- A judge has ordered the trials of two people charged in a commando-style invasion last month on Governor's Island to proceed. Chandra K. Chowanec, 26, and Craig Davidson, 35, were ordered bound over for trial. Davidson, and his wife, Gretchen, 25, both of Albuquerque, N.M., and Chowanec, of Columbia, Conn...each face three counts of attempted murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder...Chowanec's former in-laws. Chowanec had been involved in a dispute with the McDuffees...[Lawyer]Twomey...stun guns and night vision equipment...Prosecutors say Chowanec, 26, of Columbia, Conn., and two friends planned to kill Chowanec's ex-husband, Scott McDuffee and..."

Originally Posted by Heaven

Nobody said there was no DNA.

I've associated with professionals in Forensic Serological analyses, so here's my take on DNA:

Before DNA came onto the scene, only two tests were adequate for an arrest—and both tests could be done the same day. (The two tests were the usual Rh blood-types, and another called "blood proteins".)

It would be expected that there would be blood at a scene described as a stabbing. Any one drop of blood could identify an assailant who could also have been bleeding, so every spot of blood would need to be DNA-checked.

While DNA has slowed the arrest process, it can be used to identify a perpetrator down to one-individual-in-a-billion—and sometimes even better than that!

But even in the absense of a suspect, DNA can be analyzed to determine the ethnic, national, regional, or geographical origin of the subject/perpetrator. There are private firms who will "look up your ancestors" from a cotton swab's single wipe of the inside of the client's mouth.

DNA is used for other determinations, of course: Although the scene had a large number of people at it, no other DNA-related requirements for testing have been suggested (or forthcoming) up to this date.

Originally Posted by tis

"...Somebody said today it takes three weeks to get the DNA results back...Maybe that is what they are waiting for..."

The DNA logistics for profiling just one drop of blood would take weeks.

With every drop needing analysis to provide context at the scene, one could expect even more time to pass. All the details of the crime have to be eventually assembled to provide the most likely scenario, motive, and later, the charges to be brought.

Hopefully, WPD took photographs of each of those questioned. Any wounds need to be documented as they can be wounds inflicted during any physical defense by the victim—or, as can happen—an unintentional self-wounding.

Wolfeboro has only one resolved murder case of the four local murders that I've heard of.

A "help line" for investigators shows that DNA isn't the "slam-dunk" seen on a famous TV show.


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(But not this TV show)

[SAMIAM]

Yup...that's me. Not a fair comparison though, because the driver of the boat has been arrested and is awaiting trial.......No one is left hanging as in the Wolfboro case.

[jpskate8]

Originally Posted by lulu59

Well, we enter day 15 with no arrest. How can there be no DNA? How can there be so much speculation and so little activity??
At the funeral? At the house? Out on &500,000 bail? 900lbs. of weed and no prior record? 71 year old lady along for the ride as a guise??
Soon, all will be exposed. And what you thought was small town USA.
http://www.granitestatenews.com/Arti..._Illinois.html

From what I hear is she was dating Jim........ And others.... I believe these are highly related crimes.

[tis]

I heard yesterday Jim Lowry got off. I don't know if it is true.

[old coot]

Originally Posted by tis

I heard yesterday Jim Lowry got off. I don't know if it is true.

That's a persistent rumor, tis, but my law enforcement sources tell me it is untrue. His case is expected to drag on forever, however.
oc

[Lakesrider]

Rumor has it that this murder has gone international. There is allegedly a woman with ties to France that had some connection with one of them. Apparently a scent dog walked toward some condos on Friend (?) st. (funny that the name of this street comes up in the news article link above?) This is where they were looking for a weapon. Then it came out that the day of the murder this woman , who lived in one of the condos, disappeared and left a trail telling of her flight to France. Now they are looking for her there. Just what I heard today.

[old coot]

Were you to park your car in the Burn's driveway and not get your transmission fully engaged in Park, your car would roll down the driveway, cross North Main Street and then descend down Friend Street. The street has that proximity to the murder scene. However, I'm not aware of any (typical) condos on Friend Street. Instead, they're all modest and long existing single family homes and mobile homes.
oc

[chowda]

Originally Posted by Lakesrider

Rumor has it that this murder has gone international. There is allegedly a woman with ties to France that had some connection with one of them. Apparently a scent dog walked toward some condos on Friend (?) st. (funny that the name of this street comes up in the news article link above?) This is where they were looking for a weapon. Then it came out that the day of the murder this woman , who lived in one of the condos, disappeared and left a trail telling of her flight to France. Now they are looking for her there. Just what I heard today.

This alleged woman with a connection does not live on Friend St., but not far from there. Her tie to France is that she is an international flight attendant. They are not looking for her there. The authorities are aware of her flight status and when she is in town.There are those out there that are starting to think in this direction, but anybody's guess at this point.

[tis]

Of course it does. He is well known.

[sa meredith]

So I'm out having dinner last week, and meet someone who lives year round in Wolfeboro. The conversation comes around to this topic, and they explain to me that the victim is said to have been a member of "the car key club"...which is a club for locals in Wolfeboro (that's about all the definition of the club I will give, there is more, but just take a guess). Anyway, they said that locals believe there is a connection and that police are exploring this.
I have no way of knowing if this is accurate info, but was curious if anyone on the forum heard a similar story.

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by sa meredith

So I'm out having dinner last week, and meet someone who lives year round in Wolfeboro. The conversation comes around to this topic, and they explain to me that the victim is said to have been a member of "the car key club"...which is a club for locals in Wolfeboro (that's about all the definition of the club I will give, there is more, but just take a guess). Anyway, they said that locals believe there is a connection and that police are exploring this.
I have no way of knowing if this is accurate info, but was curious if anyone on the forum heard a similar story.

Talk about dropping a BOMB!!

[Heaven]

I thought the car key club was for couples (?), and how would that work in her case?

[gokart-mozart]

The Union Leader is advertising on their website "an exclusive update in the Stacey Burns homicide probe" coming tomorrow.

Wonder what they know?

[goosejr]

I hope people don't get lost in the rumors and innuendo.

Stacey may have had her faults, (please name one of us who does not) but be aware that she was not anything but sweet. She was approachable, funny, and caring.

Still thinking of her and mourning the loss......

[Skip]

Lengthy article in this morning's on-line Union Leader in reference to the crime. Story can be read HERE!

Much of the story centers around an interview with ex-boyfriend Jim Vittum.

[tis]

Wow, I am surprised he talked.

[Irish mist]

Originally Posted by tis

Wow, I am surprised he talked.

Lol, I bet his lawyer is too Not looking good for this guy IMO.
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Extreme q

[fatlazyless]

One half million dollars in bail seems like a lot of money. Probably, there's some payment info in the court records that could be public information, available to a newspaper reporter. Some smart reporter should follow that money trail.

If Wolfeboro were part of the LaDaSun's news beat, they'd be on this, all day and night, like Sherlock Holmes. Is Wolfeboro in a news warp or does it just seem that way?

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

One half million dollars in bail seems like a lot of money. Probably, there's some payment info in the court records that could be public information, available to a newspaper reporter. Some smart reporter should follow that money trail.

If Wolfeboro were part of the LaDaSun's news beat, they'd be on this, all day and night, like Sherlock Holmes. Is Wolfeboro in a news warp or does it just seem that way?

Do you realize you just used "LaDaSun" and "news" in the same sentence? Yeah... I didn't think so.

Although it's just a weekly paper, The Baysider does a good job accurately reporting things - silly thing tho, papers can only report the info that's released to them. There's something called "The Right To Know" law (RSA 91) that has some limits to it, ya know. I think reputation is part of that law - so that's why the police can't say too much... I'm gonna trust that the WPD is doing their job and we'll know more when it's available for the info to be released...

[SAMIAM]

IMHO they already know who did it and are waiting to complete the investigation. It's disturbing to think that the person who did it has enjoyed his freedom for two extra weeks after killing a young mom and ruining the lives of her remaining family.

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

IMHO they already know who did it and are waiting to complete the investigation.It's disturbing to think that the person who did it has enjoyed his freedom for two extra weeks after killing a young mom and ruining the lives of her remaining family.

In a way I agree...but I highly doubt the guilty party is "enjoying" his/her freedom. I would at least hope that person is sweating bullets, worried about their fate in the judicial system.

[Happy Gourmand]

My guess is that the police and the AG's office are making certain that all their ducks line up in a perfect row before they move on this.
Do any of you recall the outcome of the trial for the home invasion that occurred on Governor's Is. some years back? A sharp lawyer got the case dismissed on TECHNICALITIES...the perpetrators were released.
I'm pretty sure that the suspect(s) in this case are on a pretty short leash and are being closely monitored.

[fatlazyless]

Let's see if I make an intelligent response here.

In the Governor's Island midnight home invasion - child kidnapping attempt of aproximately 1995 by an ex-member(s) of their family, while dressed in all-black & armed w/ handguns & ninja knives, there were no personal injuries to anyone, and a couple-three invaders did prison time for a few years(?).

The Marine Patrol was right there, making a waterfront approach to the house and very involved in stopping the bad guys (ex-husband or ex-wife?) in their tracks. So, that attempted kidnapping was stopped with a 911 call.

No personal physical injuries is obviously far far different from a stabbing murder in the middle of the night.

Lots of doors in Wolfeboro, likely and understandably. now get locked at night.

[fatlazyless]

Wolfeboro: Slaying has town on edge

3 weeks on, no arrests in mom's death

By Maddie Hanna, Monitor Staff

today's May 31 www.concordmonitor.com
.....

...geez, if my links worked I'd make one here, but they don't, so could someone help out...

[Rose]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...geez, if my links worked I'd make one here, but they don't, so could someone help out...

Here ya go

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/p...WS01/905310382

[tis]

The rumor was they were expecting the DNA tests back in about 3 weeks. So hopefully something will happen soon. Today is three weeks.

[lulu59]

]Man, this is the most hushed investigation. Rumor has it the husband is wanting an order of protection against the former boyfriend. Rumor has it this shall be challenged. Rumor has it that DNA results are imminent.
Six people in a house. No one knows or heard anything?? Vehicles?? Foot prints?? Cell phone records??
The victims father is an attorney. Can't believe they haven't had an impact on this. This is such a twisted crime. Tragedy for these children. And living in a community where one must wonder what is going on??

[Heaven]

Originally Posted by lulu59

]Man, this is the most hushed investigation. Rumor has it the husband is wanting an order of protection against the former boyfriend. Rumor has it this shall be challenged. Rumor has it that DNA results are imminent.
Six people in a house. No one knows or heard anything?? Vehicles?? Foot prints?? Cell phone records??
The victims father is an attorney. Can't believe they haven't had an impact on this. This is such a twisted crime. Tragedy for these children. And living in a community where one must wonder what is going on??

Think about the DNA in that house. There is DNA all over the place, footprints all over the place. Think of all the company that has been in that house in the previous month . Think about the fact that DNA from probably ALL the suspects was already in the house before the murder. The challenge is to connect the dots with the DNA that tells the story of those few hours. Very very difficult and time consuming. This isn't TV.

[fatlazyless]

Today's Union Leader has a front page story about the Wolfeboro murder which happened one month ago.

And, the Granite State News crime beat had someone arrested and held at the Carrol County jail about a month ago with their name witheld?


It's been a month so could the murderer who committed this horrendous killing please stand up and tell everyone why you did it?

[capngary]

http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...b-6797149951c1

It's been a month and all 5 children are now living with their father. Some of you are going to be wrong about your internet conviction.

Don't worry too much about your own safety. This is a crime of passion... The victim knew the assailant. Eddie didn't do it. But, I think Eddie knew who did it and has told the police. It takes about 3 plus weeks to get the DNA results. The ducks are all lining up. The police are establishing an airtight case. You won't have to wait much longer.

[tis]

What are you referring to when you say we are wrong about our internet conviction? Can you 'splain that?

[gokart-mozart]

tis, I think he means Ed didn't do it.

[lulu59]

Let's see. Today there was a hearing to decide if Ed(as you internet folks refer to him)would be allowed a restraining order to be in place against a possible suspect. The hearing was held in Carroll County before the Honorable Judge Horan and that order was denied. Evidently, the judge didn't believe Mr Burns' theory that his safety was in jeopardy.
If the ex husband committed the offense or is charged, how can the state of N.H. justify letting him live in the house with his children? Something here just doesn't add up. Are they, the authorities, attempting to see if someone has loose lips? Was someone hired to commit this offense, a professional killer?
The team got together in Concord yesterday to put all the information together. Still not a sign of an arrest. Tells me the authorities are at an impasse.

[Heaven]

Originally Posted by lulu59

Let's see. Today there was a hearing to decide if Ed(as you internet folks refer to him)would be allowed a restraining order to be in place against a possible suspect. The hearing was held in Carroll County before the Honorable Judge Horan and that order was denied. Evidently, the judge didn't believe Mr Burns' theory that his safety was in jeopardy.
If the ex husband committed the offense or is charged, how can the state of N.H. justify letting him live in the house with his children? Something here just doesn't add up. Are they, the authorities, attempting to see if someone has loose lips? Was someone hired to commit this offense, a professional killer?
The team got together in Concord yesterday to put all the information together. Still not a sign of an arrest. Tells me the authorities are at an impasse.

The ex has not been charged, and right now he is innocent. Have some patience people, I can hear the racket you would make if a critical step or piece of information gets overlooked in haste and a conviction fails. I don't believe the authorities are at an impasse, they are doing their jobs. Again, this isn't TV.

[lulu59]

http://www.granitestatenews.com/Arti...boyfriend.html
here it is.no luv lost between these 2!!

[lulu59]

Here's is a good one. Some fact, some speculation.
Last week in the Michael Jackson frenzy, Larry King had many, many guests. A man by the name of Henry Lee, DNA expert was one of them. What is the speculation: Henry Lee was being interviewed from Manchester NH. Why would Henry Lee be in Manchester NH???? To check the DNA in the Stacie Burns' murder investigation???

[SAMIAM]

Lulu, I think YOU should be in charge of this murder investigation.......you seem to have a lot more common sense than the PD and AG keystone cops.
There are two main suspects and one of them is innocent but has to face his friends, neighbors and family every day with the cloud of guilt hanging over him. Can you imagine going to work each day.....to the store and school to pick up your kids with everyone looking at you like you're guilty? I believe that they know who did it and are just playing cat and mouse while they collect more evidence.......not fair to the innocent person.

[lulu59]

Well, sad to say, this investigation is at a dead end. Made this conclusion back on June 10th. It appears that there are endless scenarios.
Hard to say what the motivation is by the interview given by a suspect this week. Riddled with guilt? Was advised to speak in general terms and not about specifics?
Reaching out for help?? Sounds like a substance abuse problem?? Key club?? Swinger??
Lots' of speculation. The authorities know what happened. Can they prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? These murder trials can cost significant money to the state. Sad but true.

[capngary]

Last newspaper article (July 26th) was after Jim's outlandish interview. Why did he have to say anything at all???? So now... it has been over 90 days! No arrests have been made. This is now officially a cold case.

If there is anybody in the world whom would like to see "closure" (if there can ever be such a thing), it is Eddie! The murderer literally destroyed Eddie's life and the lives of his family (on both sides). Despite any marital problems Eddie and Stacey had, their children ALWAYS came first. The person(s) who committed this crime will EVENTUALLY get the justice deserved. Loss of their mother has been just horrible for the children, especially the 3 youngest ones.

So, John Walsh will soon be asking you, "PLEASE, if you know anything about this horrific murder, go to the police and remain annoymous. Let's get this coward off the streets soon!" Some of you WOLFESBORO "PARTY" GIRLS (you know whom you are!)... If the police haven't interviewed you yet... Please be forthcoming and tell the police what you know, even a minor detail that you don't think important might help crack this case.

[Skip]

WMUR did a follow up story tonight at 6:00 PM.

Story can be seen HERE.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by capngary

"...So now... it has been over 90 days! No arrests have been made. This is now officially a cold case..."

So ten days ago was an especially propitious day for Governor Lynch to sign "The Bill of Hope"?

(The Federal Government's "Stimulus Bill" pays for New Hampshire's Cold-Case investigations).

http://kbeaudin.wordpress.com/2009/0...-bill-of-hope/

[capngary]

"Lieutenant Horak was in attendance, he is the retired police officer that has written two books about the murders of two young women in Candia NH. His passion to solve these cases burns within him even today."

[chowda]

I am sure I am not the only one disgusted by last week's article. I think the columnist and the editor should both be ashamed of themselves. Firstly, the columnist for printing mostly local gossip and articles from other publications. Did she think that was groundbreaking news? Secondly, the editor for allowing this poor excuse of an article to be published. Is spell check the only editing tool available at this rag? It is one thing for people to post questions or comments on this forum. The local paper printing this type of speculation on the front page is another. That being said, is there any truth to the rumor the flight attendant in question has left town?

[tis]

I heard she HAS left town. She was being treated very badly. I imagine she is not the only one who is being treated that way. I feel sorry for her and the others who are being treated that way if they DIDN"T do it.

[old coot]

Originally Posted by tis

I heard she HAS left town. She was being treated very badly. I imagine she is not the only one who is being treated that way. I feel sorry for her and the others who are being treated that way if they DIDN"T do it.

Who's she?
oc

[old coot]

Duh!
Now, in the light of day, I see who "she" is. I'm renewing my vow to read posts twice to avoid asking stupid questions like the one I asked.
oc

[tis]

There is a "For Sale" sign in front of her house today. This whole thing is so very sad.

[winnipugs]

that property is not just owned by her, it was built and owned by her ex boyfriend. they mutually decided to sell for other reasons. again , you all need to stop jumping to conclusions.

[tis]

It was built and owned by her and her ex boyfriend and since she no longer felt comfortable there, he could not or did not want to own it by himself. I know and like both of them. My understanding is that she left because she was not being treated well and couldn't take it any more. The reason she is a suspect is because he was the latest beau of Stacey and rumor is that possibly, just possibly she was a jealous ex. Who knows? I choose not to believe she should be a suspect.

[PennyPenny]

Originally Posted by tis

It was built and owned by her and her ex boyfriend and since she no longer felt comfortable there, he could not or did not want to own it by himself. I know and like both of them. My understanding is that she left because she was not being treated well and couldn't take it any more. The reason she is a suspect is because he was the latest beau of Stacey and rumor is that possibly, just possibly she was a jealous ex. Who knows? I choose not to believe she should be a suspect.

Been reading and folowing this story and/or thread but I just got lost on who the ex bf is. "She" is the flight attendant, who is he?

[capngary]

OK, DA, Sir... "This is definitely NOT a cold case." OK

I'll just keep track of the months. Please advise number when John Walsh should be brought in.

MONTHS> 4

[gokart-mozart]

Originally Posted by PennyPenny

Been reading and folowing this story and/or thread but I just got lost on who the ex bf is. "She" is the flight attendant, who is he?

There are several.

[capngary]

Originally Posted by gokart-mozart

There are several.

WERE!

[chowda]

ARE/WERE, seriously!? That is getting a little juvenile. I understand the concern over any supposed "BF's" but the only individuals widely known to have actually threatened her with bodily harm were the Ex-hubby and the flight attendant.

So CapnG, obviously you have a problem with the memorial walk in October. (see Stacey Burns Memorial Walk thread) There is already a fund set up for Stacey's kids, in case you didn't know. As concerned as you seem to be with this situation and clearing your buddy Ed's name, maybe you should give John Walsh a call and set up a reward fund for any info leading to an arrest.

BTW- Before you start correcting the grammatical or wording errors of others, maybe you should proof read your own posts first. WOLFESBORO "PARTY" GIRLS
Everybody makes typos every now and then, no need to be a jerk.

[DC Pointer]

Two deaths inside of two years with absolutley zero justice served. Not even an explanation as to WHY OR WHO OR WHAT? Especially in Wolfeboro. What the hell is going on here?

[trfour]

Originally Posted by DC Pointer

Two deaths inside of two years with absolutley zero justice served. Not even an explanation as to WHY OR WHO OR WHAT? Especially in Wolfeboro. What the hell is going on here?

And today's ( Sign Of The Times ), No Reminder Needed, that Fair Trial and Due Process can and does frustrate! The waist lines of Government and Lawyers continues to balloon, however, Hanging the innocent in the streets has been abolished in this Country - +.

Now, let us put our brains together and help where we can, in the above Mess!



Terry
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[chowda]

Diamind? I'm sorry DC Pointer, but are you speaking of the Diamond Island incident? I agree with trfour concerning the waistlines. Any ideas on the helping with the "Mess" as you put it? There have been suggestions of going to the press, contacting John Walsh or others. At this point I don't think there are any bad ideas, since we don't ALL know whom is innocent.

Back to SAMIAM, you are so right. The police should be ashamed, and also Strezlin. They could at least have given us the facade that they care. They could give an occasional update in the paper or news. They could have told the truth about what happened in October. They could have stopped much of the rumors circulating in town by eliminating people that they are positive were not involved and by dispelling much of the ridiculous gossip. Instead, they have told us nothing, which leads to the image that they have done nothing.

[old coot]

Originally Posted by chowda

Diamind? I'm sorry DC Pointer, but are you speaking of the Diamond Island incident? I agree with trfour concerning the waistlines. Any ideas on the helping with the "Mess" as you put it? There have been suggestions of going to the press, contacting John Walsh or others. At this point I don't think there are any bad ideas, since we don't ALL know whom is innocent.

Back to SAMIAM, you are so right. The police should be ashamed, and also Strezlin. They could at least have given us the facade that they care. They could give an occasional update in the paper or news. They could have told the truth about what happened in October. They could have stopped much of the rumors circulating in town by eliminating people that they are positive were not involved and by dispelling much of the ridiculous gossip. Instead, they have told us nothing, which leads to the image that they have done nothing.

I am in complete agreement with your 2nd paragraph elaboration of SAMIAM's original premise.
oc

[chowda]

The way I see it, us locals have it down to three distinct possibilities. Are there more that I don't know of? (serious possibilities) I know at least one has undergone a polygraph. Why not all three? I'm for waterboarding at this point. Give me a break. At least two out of three is still here taking the heat.

[tis]

Anybody know the story on the house being for sale? Where are they moving etc.?

[Petah]

Who would be the third "suspect" who is not taking the heat?

[chowda]

Petah, you've got a lot of catching up to do! You should take about an hour or two and start reading all 197 posts on this. The third person I am speaking of is the flight attendant that moved to Portsmouth this Summer. The same one that barged into Stacey's house the Thursday before Mother's Day and threatened her. She stalked Stacey and the new "BF" (the flight attendant's EX) on their dates, etc. None of this means that she is the one who did this, but it definitely gives the appearance of motive. I just feel that this individual should be held under the same scrutiny as the other two.

CaptainGary, any word on John Walsh?

[BrownstoneNorth]

Sorry if this was posted elsewhere -- I just came across it and didn't see anything here.

Granite State News

Lowry pleads guilty to marijuana charge in Illinois
by Elissa Paquette

WOLFEBORO — Wolfeboro Supervisor of the Checklist and former police commissioner Jim Lowry, 53, pled guilty to one of three separate felony counts in the Henry County Courthouse in Cambridge, Illinois on July 20.

The partially-negotiated plea included the dismissal of two counts, leaving the count of Class X manufacture/delivery of cannabis (greater than 5,000 grams) intact.

In accepting the plea, the court found Lowry's open plea of guilty "to be knowingly and voluntarily made."

Lowry was arrested on March 27, 2009 on Interstate 80 in Illinois driving a pick up truck carrying 900 pounds of marijuana estimated to have a Midwest street value of $2.25 million. Bond was set at $500,000 with a minimum cash payment of $50,000 and Lowry was set free to return to his hometown.

The court ruled on July 20 that Lowry must pay a minimum fine of $50,000 and $3,400 in additional costs. Both parties entered into an agreement that includes a cap of 16 years incarceration under the Illinois Department of Corrections. Actual jail time will be determined following a pretrial sentencing investigation and a sentencing hearing set for Sept. 17.

Town Clerk Pat Waterman said that Lowry will have the opportunity to resign his post as supervisor of the checklist, but that the town will not take any action on the matter until it receives official notice from the Illinois court. "Knowing Jim," said Waterman, "he'll do the right thing."

Supervisors Tom O'Dowd and Dennis Bean will appoint a replacement once they receive Lowry's resignation.

[hilltopper]

Originally Posted by BrownstoneNorth

"Knowing Jim," said Waterman, "he'll do the right thing."

Sorry, but I got a huge kick outta this statement...

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by hilltopper

Sorry, but I got a huge kick outta this statement...

Me too.

[BrownstoneNorth]

Originally Posted by jmen24

Me too.

Me, three. But I must say that I think it was inappropriate to have moved the Jim Lowry Update post to this thread. I'm not aware of any evidence whatsoever of any linkage between that the Burns murder and the Lowry marijuana incident, and I certainly made no such link in my post. I think it should be treated as a separate matter unless or until proven otherwise.

[chowda]

Seems to me if you had thought it was so inappropriate, you would not have posted your Jim Lowry Update here in the first place. Jim Lowry most definitely deserves a thread of his own. Maybe then a lot of the speculation and rumors concerning him in this thread would be avoided.

[Petah]

Chowda, you seem to have more insight than most on this thread. Any updates on the three suspects you mentioned in the past? Do you know if 20/20 may have come up with any new revelations to this tragic case.