Ellacoya State Park

Little Bear · 09-21-2011, 07:42 AM

I noticed yesterday and today that there is a total of 1 (one) RV at Ellacoya State Park. According to this website, their nightly fee is $42.00 - $47.00:
http://www.reserveamerica.com/campin...&parkId=270021

Also according to this website, they stay open until Columbus Day weekend for camping. I would imagine that the Park is staffed this entire time, and the bath houses are also open for the campers. How can the State justify keeping this park (and presumably others) open, when their operating costs far exceed their revenues during this late season?

Winnisquamguy · 09-21-2011, 08:17 AM

They are waiting for all the leaf peepers before they shut down. State run campgrounds don't have as much overhead as you think, lights are on sensors , no hot water in the bathrooms. I would think they only have one person there at this time of year doing maintenance, and is making no more than$12.00 per hour.I think there operating costs are minimal and will make more than enough in the next couple of weekends. Leaf peeping brings in over a billion dollars to New Hampshire.

LIforrelaxin · 09-21-2011, 10:41 AM

The State makes the largest amount of money over the summer... Unfortunately there is time in the Spring, and fall where, the campgrounds are not used during the week, but fill up on the weekends. What you eventually find out, is that a vast majority of the maintenance, and upkeep is done during these non-peak periods. Tasks like Painting, landscaping changes, infrastructure repairs, etc.

Also as mentioned most of these state run campgrounds are either not attended on a 24/7 basis, or simply have a single person on duty during the non-peak seasons.....

fatlazyless · 09-21-2011, 10:16 PM

www.fs.fed.us/r9/white shows 23 different campgrounds in the White Mountain National Forest, costing from 14-20 dollars/night, so that's probably a good alternative to the very pricey Ellacoya for an rv camper looking to save a little money.

There's a much better website that shows all the 23 campgrounds with their 14-20 dollar prices and location, but I cannot get the link to work, so if you google "white mountain national forest campgrounds," it should show up.

Which costs less; paying 14 to 20-dollars to the feds or paying 42 to 47 dollars to the state? Anybody know?

Helloooooooo State of NH!

KPW · 09-22-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

www.fs.fed.us/r9/white shows 23 different campgrounds in the White Mountain National Forest, costing from 14-20 dollars/night, so that's probably a good alternative to the very pricey Ellacoya for an rv camper looking to save a little money.

There's a much better website that shows all the 23 campgrounds with their 14-20 dollar prices and location, but I cannot get the link to work, so if you google "white mountain national forest campgrounds," it should show up.

Which costs less; paying 14 to 20-dollars to the feds or paying 42 to 47 dollars to the state? Anybody know?

Helloooooooo State of NH!

It is the view tax!

Lakepilot · 09-22-2011, 06:22 AM

Many campgrounds, and possibly Ellacoya, use "workkampers". These are folks that pickup the grounds, clean toilets, man the office and other things. They work x hours per week in exchange for a space.

upthesaukee · 09-22-2011, 07:33 AM

FLL, the campgrounds you list say nothing about electricity, water, and sewer hookups. Perhaps while you are stuck in Waterville Valley, you can check out the campground there and report back to us.

Little Bear · 09-22-2011, 07:51 AM

Well this morning there are 4 RV's in the park, so that's good news. Probably here for NASCAR. Yesterday afternoon there were at least two State vehicles parked at the Park offices.

Janet · 09-22-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakepilot

Many campgrounds, and possibly Ellacoya, use "workkampers". These are folks that pickup the grounds, clean toilets, man the office and other things. They work x hours per week in exchange for a space.

Many state parks here in Texas use "Park Hosts". The Park Host does some light maintanence, patrols the grounds etc in exchange for a free camping sight. Most live in the campgrounds year round.

09-21-2011, 07:42 AM	#1
Little Bear Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 561 Thanks: 105 Thanked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Ellacoya State Park I noticed yesterday and today that there is a total of 1 (one) RV at Ellacoya State Park. According to this website, their nightly fee is $42.00 - $47.00: http://www.reserveamerica.com/campin...&parkId=270021 Also according to this website, they stay open until Columbus Day weekend for camping. I would imagine that the Park is staffed this entire time, and the bath houses are also open for the campers. How can the State justify keeping this park (and presumably others) open, when their operating costs far exceed their revenues during this late season?

09-21-2011, 08:17 AM	#2
Winnisquamguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Winnisquam, NH Posts: 613 Thanks: 419 Thanked 163 Times in 115 Posts	They are waiting for all the leaf peepers before they shut down. State run campgrounds don't have as much overhead as you think, lights are on sensors , no hot water in the bathrooms. I would think they only have one person there at this time of year doing maintenance, and is making no more than$12.00 per hour.I think there operating costs are minimal and will make more than enough in the next couple of weekends. Leaf peeping brings in over a billion dollars to New Hampshire. __________________ "I'd rather be ridin than rolling"

09-21-2011, 10:41 AM	#3
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, not that one, the one on Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,821 Thanks: 1,014 Thanked 880 Times in 514 Posts	The State makes the largest amount of money over the summer... Unfortunately there is time in the Spring, and fall where, the campgrounds are not used during the week, but fill up on the weekends. What you eventually find out, is that a vast majority of the maintenance, and upkeep is done during these non-peak periods. Tasks like Painting, landscaping changes, infrastructure repairs, etc. Also as mentioned most of these state run campgrounds are either not attended on a 24/7 basis, or simply have a single person on duty during the non-peak seasons..... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

09-21-2011, 10:16 PM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	www.fs.fed.us/r9/white shows 23 different campgrounds in the White Mountain National Forest, costing from 14-20 dollars/night, so that's probably a good alternative to the very pricey Ellacoya for an rv camper looking to save a little money. There's a much better website that shows all the 23 campgrounds with their 14-20 dollar prices and location, but I cannot get the link to work, so if you google "white mountain national forest campgrounds," it should show up. Which costs less; paying 14 to 20-dollars to the feds or paying 42 to 47 dollars to the state? Anybody know? Helloooooooo State of NH! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

09-22-2011, 07:33 AM	#7
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,547 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,398 Thanked 1,918 Times in 1,061 Posts	FLL compares apples with oranges? FLL, the campgrounds you list say nothing about electricity, water, and sewer hookups. Perhaps while you are stuck in Waterville Valley, you can check out the campground there and report back to us. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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09-22-2011, 06:22 AM	#6
Lakepilot Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 446 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 40 Posts	Many campgrounds, and possibly Ellacoya, use "workkampers". These are folks that pickup the grounds, clean toilets, man the office and other things. They work x hours per week in exchange for a space.

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09-22-2011, 07:51 AM	#8
Little Bear Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 561 Thanks: 105 Thanked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Well this morning there are 4 RV's in the park, so that's good news. Probably here for NASCAR. Yesterday afternoon there were at least two State vehicles parked at the Park offices.