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06-22-2018, 11:18 AM | #1 |
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What Idiots Placed Schools on Busy State Roads
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Whose bright idea was to place both schools on Route 25? Of all the land available in these Lakes Region Towns, they put a school on a busy state roadway. Meredith now has two entranceways off Route 25. Now 2 police officers are needed with two police cars with flashing lights at school times. Traffic backed up from lights in Meredith to the schools. Moultonborough with the 100 acres of land that the schools own builds a school on state road Route 25. A 2nd police officer is needed at school bus times as so much traffic. What idiots proposed the location of that school? |
06-22-2018, 11:34 AM | #2 |
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The policemen got together and made the decision to place the schools there because they wanted more overtime.
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Both of those schools pre-dated the huge tourist influx that we see today.
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Now Moultonborough is planning to build a secondary "emergency" access road for the schools that will also dump onto RT25 despite other potential solutions.
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As a jet was flying over Arizona on a clear day, the copilot was providing his passengers with a running commentary about landmarks over the PA system.
"Coming up on the right, you can see the Meteor Crater, which is a major tourist attraction in northern Arizona. It was formed when a lump of nickel and iron, roughly 150 feet in diameter and weighing 300,000 tons, struck the earth 50,000 years ago at about 40,000 miles an hour, scattering white-hot debris for miles in every direction. The hole measures nearly a mile across and is 570 feet deep." The lady sitting next to me exclaimed: "Wow, look! It just missed the highway!" |
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It’s not about you......
They place schools and public buildings where there is convenient roadway access. Just because we have the “high holy” tourist season, it doesn’t mean that the remaining 9 months of the year should dictate placement of public buildings
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What Idiots Placed Schools on Busy State Roads
You being bothered on a Friday I’m sure
was a factor when they were deciding what was easiest for residents the other 179 days they have to go there. I can’t think of a school anywhere that’s on an old back road come to think of it. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Hmmm. A Masshole on his first trip up to the lake for the summer?
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I somewhat agree with professor. Not well planned and a public safety issue when a crisis erupts and police and fire are obstructed getting to where they need to but also realize these roads were design eons ago when traffic was minimal and most families had one car :-)
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What idiots...
I wonder what idiots put a busy highway by a public school!
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NJ/MA...Demographics is Destiny...
Fifteen years ago, I was surprised to see a school bus on Wolfeboro's Forest Road. The entrance to Camp Wyanoke (closed in 1978) still remains on Forest Road—and is still marked as such.
Back then, Forest Road was a three mile ride through a dark green tube that dead-ended at Camp Ossipee—established in 1875—and The Wolfeboro Airpark (1948). Other than trees, the only place you could see hills or open sky was at Carry Beach! Camp Wyanoke's campers are having a reunion starting Friday, July 27, 2018. When seeing a school bus on Forest Road, wait 'til you see their reaction! .
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I think he was questioning the other post that stated the police had to do with the placing of it there. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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All police departments have to be ready to increase staffing by calling in additional officers when significant incidents such as fatal accidents or major crimes occur that tie up the regular patrols. I am questioning the assertion above that the officers that direct traffic on a daily basis in front of the schools are there on overtime. I am pretty sure it is just regular patrols that go there unless they are tied up on another call. |
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06-24-2018, 11:57 AM | #20 |
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School is out for the summer, so that means much, much, much less school bound traffic.
Route 25-B is an alternate route to circle around a congested Rt 25 on high school hill. Enroute, do yourself a favor, and stop in to Heath's Super Market for a totally free cup of Vermont Coffee Roaster's coffee in five different flavors ..... like the Lake & Lodge dark roast ....... a courtesy cup ......no charge.....check out the still yummy but date expired, reduced price, home made baked goods like donuts, muffins, & whoopie pies.......on the little metal rack in the back of the store ..... and chill out with the very scenic 4-mile drive up and down Dane Hill Road ....... aka State Route 25-B.
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Our town has a few retired folks who direct traffic at schools and busy commuting intersections. Once in a while, one of them has to take a day off, and a regular patrol officer fills in, but otherwise, these are folks working a couple of hours five days a week. No overtime, minimal benefits. Summers and school vacations, off.
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Some Mass residents could be overly sensitive to this because of the endless cases of massive overtime abuse in our state that we're now learning about. The overtime abuse was widespread and systemic. These legal and illegal overtime scams allow many State Police officers to earn several hundred thousand a year. Anyone who looks into the details of this has to be shocked that so many of our State Troopers, of all people, participated in the illegal scams. That may be why we're so touchy about this.
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Here is a parcel list of NH State Police overtime for 2017:
Here is the link to the NH government website : https://business.nh.gov/paytranspare...cyResults.aspx
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...... such a coffee deal
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By choosing the el cheapo styrofoam cup, you get the same coffee as the 50-cent luxurious paper cup, except it's free .......... such a Heath's coffee deal ....... that's right! And, the paper cup is a very nice, high quality paper or thin cardboard cup. Back in the car I usually pour the styrofoam cup into a ceramic yellow smiley face cup because it tastes better in a real cup?
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I believe “special duty” is mostly “details” (at least it is in MA) and details are paid for by the contractor/event/facility that hires them plus a little extra for the state. We had local PD who made more than this trooper & 50% was details. A couple of years ago MA SP details were costing the company I worked for close to $100/hr/officer with a 4hr min.
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If the information is wrong it isn't because I got the facts wrong. I do know what the starting pay is for a trooper, so maybe this trooper started working later in the year of 2017. He could of started working in March or April..I really don't why he got less than the starting pay. But regardless what his regular pay is he still put in a lot of extra time. We as tax payers should be concerned with where our money goes in all government agencies.
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Of course the contractor includes the cost in its bid. Should the cost come out of its profit? The utilities include their construction costs in their prices; supermarkets include the cost of moving snow out of their parking lots in their prices; Auto dealers include the cost of security in their prices; and on and on. The user ultimately pays for everything. Would you rather have construction on public highways with no detail? I’ve seen and read about to many contractor deaths caused by distracted drivers. Sometimes you just need to pay for things. And if you think SP are over paid I suggest that you face the guy barricaded in a house with a rifle, be the first one on the scene of a fatal accident, or break up a bar fight. They earn every penny they are paid! (And, yes there are bad apples but, there are bad apples in every walk of life. Just look around you.)
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If I compare my salary to that of this state trooper there is zero chance I would want to change positions with him. It’s a dangerous and I’m sure very sad ( the things you see )job. If the club/construction company etc is paying the overtime, let them work all they want IMO. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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It's hard for me to comprehend how any trade has the potential of working that much overtime & special duty. I would also think that that person might not be alert during regular duty due to working long hours.
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It would appear that Special Duty is, at least part of, his "normal" 40 hours. Special Duty could be being called out here as a separate line item because, if I am reading the website correctly, public companies pay that part of his salary. |
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The pay formulas for police, fire, teachers and other government employees often have details that seem wrong to a business person; but overall these folks are the backbone of the community and are paid less than they would be in comparable corporate jobs. So I'm good with the money the government spends on them. |
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