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Old 03-15-2005, 01:44 PM   #1
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Cool Map of Lake Winnipiseogee 1891

Picked up photo copies of this map at the Tuck Library
Sewed it together and cleaned it up. Full Size Map



Note the different names to familiar places.
Meredith Bay = Northwest Bay
Paugus Bay = Long Bay
Big Island = Goat Island (On my other old map it is Boat Island)
Varney Point = Smith Neck
Round Island = Smith Island
Camp Island = Folley's Island
Sleepers Island = Little Rattlesnake Island
Moose Island = Varney's Island
Treasure Island = Red Head Island
Black Point = Fort Point
Echo Point = Gerrish Point
Barndoor Island = Keniston Island
Lake Wentworth = Smith's Pond
Mirror Lake = Dishwater Pond
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:04 PM   #2
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Default Looks like Treasure was called 'Red Hand Island'

Actually, it looks like Treasure was called 'Red Hand Island', not the 'Red Head Island' I've seen on other old maps. Also, I noticed Winter Harbor is across the little strip of land going out to Wolfeboro Neck and is instead labeled Tuftonboro Bay.

Great map - thanks for posting it!
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:12 PM   #3
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That's what I get for working with several maps at once. On most old maps it is Red Head Island.
On another map Rum Point is labeled Rim Point. Or is it the other way around?
Jockey Cove = Winter Harbor on this map.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:33 PM   #4
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Default Dishwater Pond???

I vacation on Dishwater Pond? I don't think I could get any rentals by advertising: Secluded cabin on Dishwater Pond. Crystal Clear water.

I have never heard of that before. Any idea when they changed it to Mirror Lake?
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It looks like I would be interested in the Tuck Library and the Museum. Have you got a copy of their Map Journal?
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:20 PM   #6
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Their web site is slowly being updated and pictures of items are being added. There isn't a list of maps as far as I can see.
If you search the catalog, it shows a few things, but there are no thumbnails. You really can't tell what they are.
The museum was a bit of a let down. First floor was limited NH history, not much on at all on the lake. Upstairs was mostly used for the sponsor. I like the library best.

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Old 03-15-2005, 08:57 PM   #7
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Question Brown vs Braun

I wonder if Brown Bay becoming Braun Bay is like the Saunders/Sanders thing. Mispronunciation over a long enough time period becomes the new spelling ?
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:49 AM   #8
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I think you are right M & M. Mispronunciation would explain it.
Braun Bay will always be Brown Bag to me!
One night this summer past, we were out for a leisurely family cruise. I was trying to get my bearings and asked where we were, so I could reference the map. Rattlesnake Guy thought the GPS read Brown Bag. We all had a good laugh. Thanks for reminding me of a happy lake memory. (Though they all are.)
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Thanks for the info. You are a constant source of good information. I will have to wait on my trip to the library since I will be grounded in Wolfeboro for the first part on the summer.
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I will have to wait on my trip to the library since I will be grounded in Wolfeboro for the first part on the summer.
What did you do to get grounded for so long? Whatever it is, it must be real bad.
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:38 PM   #11
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What did you do to get grounded for so long? Whatever it is, it must be real bad.

.... decorated the boat for St Patty's Day w/o the wife's permission
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:10 AM   #12
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The grounding is for an elective surgery which will allow me to do better boating and also to dance with Winnie Diver.

The boat parade got cancelled because of rain and thunder. I guess I will have to go to the bar and lift a glass or 2.

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Old 01-12-2013, 08:40 AM   #13
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RG, very cool old map! I am a collector of old Winnpesaukee/Winnipiseogee maps and I had not seen this one previously. Thanks for sharing....BTW, very impressive "stitching" job! I've tried to do similar things (panoramic photos) before with very low quality results.
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Note the different names to familiar places.

Paugus Bay = Long Bay

Big Island = Goat Island (On my other old map it is Boat Island)


Perhaps this will interest some folks that enjoy researching this old stuff about the lake.

On this old map Big Island (currently known as) is shown as Sheep Island - Little Island (currently known as) is shown as Goat Island. A little different than Rattlesnake Gal's map but similar

The artistic image also shows a third island that is not named, or is trying to display a shallow area. I have fished this area on a number of occasions and could easily envision this map being photographically correct (from an artistic view) years ago when the water level was lower. I guess a question is, how much lower would the water have to be for this map to be correct years ago. Somewhere else on the forum there was at least one person who does diving that believes from his diving experiences that the lake at one time was 18 feet lower. Note how large Little Island (currently known as) is artistically portrayed on this map. If you looked at it today its tiny in comparison to this old map.

Regardless of a water level debate, I thought some folks would enjoy the old island names and a slightly different old map.
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Default Larger "Little Island"

Many years ago I spent more time in Paugus Bay. Little Island had a house on it with a boat slip underneath i.e. at least part of it was a two story house. There was also a good sized dock on the south side of the island. I would guess that ice action over the years has pushed a lot of the rocks around, with some moving under water. If I recall correctly, in "Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee" the author claims you could still see underwater remains of a fieldstone wall running from Little Island to the mainland, pre-raised dam days? That was published in the 30's I think. My copy is at camp so I can't double check.
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is part of the City of Laconia/Weirs dated 1892.

A map dated 1816 shows Folsom Falls but no dam. The falls dropped about 8 feet. I do know the Lowell Mills built the dam to make sure they have constant water flow. Not sure how much the dam rise the lake. I was told there was substantial flooding and landowners were compensated. Long Island, Governor's Island and Cow Island were not islands and were used for farmland.
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Amazing that in 1891 Long island was already bridged.
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I would think that Paugus Bay was raised a lot more than the main lake. The channel was more of a river before the dam. fwiw
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I understand the channel was actually rapids. Two changes, the dam and the channel was dredged.
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is part of the City of Laconia/Weirs dated 1892.

A map dated 1816 shows Folsom Falls but no dam. The falls dropped about 8 feet. I do know the Lowell Mills built the dam to make sure they have constant water flow. Not sure how much the dam rise the lake. I was told there was substantial flooding and landowners were compensated. Long Island, Governor's Island and Cow Island were not islands and were used for farmland.
I found a fairly recent report online (pdf) on the Lakeport dam that said it has a hydrological height of 9ft.



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